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#1911726 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 11:57 PM

Wait, I am reading that Holland OFFERED Hossa a 12 year 4-point-something million dollar cap hit, but he chose to sign in Chicago for more than 5 mil. Doesn't this mean that we should be discussing Holland letting Hossa walk for the 5+ million figure instead of the 4+ million?

http://www.mlive.com...se_to_sign.html

Former Red Wings forward Marian Hossa has signed with the Chicago Blackhawks, inking a 12-year deal worth $62.8 million, for an average salary cap hit of $5.23 million.

The Wings were steadfast in their offer of 12 years at slightly more than $4 million per season.


http://www.mlive.com...en_red_win.html

Hossa's agent, Ritch Winter, is seeking a deal worth $6 million per season. The Red Wings, because of their limited salary cap space, can't afford to give him much more than $4 million per season.


EDIT: It seems the OP meant for that, but people are throwing around the 4 million figure as if Hossa wasn't offered that contract. How much would the Wings have had to lose to gain Hossa for 5.4 million?


#1911628 Who is the Red Wings MVP this year?

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 07:31 PM

Sure he did. He could've traded Howard while he still had blue-chip prospect status instead of taking a chance on him at the NHL level.


And bring in who?

Conklin was looking for a steep price tag (for the role he was meant to play) and after all the time the Wings spent trying to get Howard NHL ready they needed to at least see if he could play.

Howard wasn't even meant to play as much as he is now. It was expected that Osgood would start the majority of the games and that if Howard did screw the pooch they could give Osgood a tougher workload while shopping for another goaltender.


#1911604 Who is the Red Wings MVP this year?

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 06:38 PM

Can Holland finally get some praise for giving Howard a chance rather than keeping Conklin?


Holland didn't have much of a choice on that matter.


#1911417 Reward offered for return of Crosby's Olympic gear

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 11:42 AM

Here's an idea, why doesn't Sid just buy new equipment? It's not like he's hurting for money, he makes $9 Million and lives in Mario's basement.

I know I know it's his game winning gear.


It's not about Crosby, I don't think. I'm pretty sure it is about the NHL and Canada getting a hold of a "historical" stick, considering how big of a goal that was.


#1911399 Team you prefer to play

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 11:27 AM

I've been thinking about this for a while... I would want to play San Jose.

Think about it... The Sharks will have an unbelievable amount of pressure on them given their past playoff failure, the new acquisitions specifically the big Dany Heatley move, and of course the usual top of the standings status. If they then have to face off against Detroit, the veteran team who knows how to win and has enjoyed the most playoff success of the last 3 years and who the Sharks have only beaten once this season in a shootout, I can imagine a major mental disadvantage even before the first puck drops. The Wings will have virtually no pressure on them at all and I and the team management won't be upset if they lose. The Sharks on the other hand...


No.

If you play the Sharks and beat them you are likely to face the Hawks in the next round. The Wings do not want to play the 1 and 2 teams respectively in the playoffs.

If they play the Hawks in the first round it is possible the Sharks will knock themselves out and the Wings won't have to worry about playing against them next round. If the Sharks do win, then they are more likely to lose in the second anyway.


#1911391 Another goalie thread...

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 11:21 AM

I thought maybe we might try to pickup a cheap insurance policy at the deadline like Roloson, but it didn't happen. So you got to go with the only option we have, and that's Howard. He hasn't been playing as well as he was before the break but he's still a far better option that the human 5 hole highlight film.


Obviously considering the "human 5 hole" hasn't played consistently since 2009. He is as cold as an ice cream sandwich right now.


#1911243 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 01:04 AM

"No I am insinuating that just because you played in juniors (whoop de freaking doo) doesn't mean you are the master of hockey knowledge"

I guess you forgot the part where you added "OMFG GUYS BTW THE WING'S BRASS ARE THE ULTRA MASTERS OF HOCKEY KNOWEDLGE". Not only is the above post a lie, but the point is invalid, as I have raised several points that neither of you have cared to reply on reagarding the inflation the lack of "poltical backlash" and the diffirence in ability vs the diffirence in price + draft picks.

You are a very black kettle my freind


You realize cherry picking my quote doesn't help when I can take the full quote in context and show it back to you, right?

"No I am insinuating that just because you played in juniors (whoop de freaking doo) doesn't mean you are the master of hockey knowledge here and should bring it up as ammunition to belittle another poster."

Here=forums

Second, I am not being a hypocrite at all.

Third, I never added anything like "OMFG GUYS BTW THE WING'S BRASS ARE THE ULTRA MASTERS OF HOCKEY KNOWEDLGE"

Excellent work. And you did notice that I didn't disagree with you on anything, but thought that your argument to authority (you seem to know what a logical fallacy is) was over the line and unnecessary.


#1911232 Official Poll: Filppula at 3 Mil. or Hossa at 5.4 + return for Filppul

Posted by Doc Holliday on 08 March 2010 - 12:48 AM

You are putting words in my mouth. Show me once where I claimed that I would be more worthy of a job then any of the Wing's Brass. While I'm waiting for infinity for you to find something that dosent exsist I will admit that yes it is not even close to playing in the NHL, but that still dosent mean you understand tangibles in the game and have a broader understanding of it than the average person.

This isn't an arguement, as neither of us will ever convince the other of the opposite, but honestly I don't really comprehend how people disagree that it would help you to understand the game more.


Now you are putting words in my mouth. I claimed that you are acting like a big shot ON THIS FORUM because you played in junior. Never said that you stated that you were more knowledgeable than the Wings brass.

My entire point was you are attempting to belittle other posters. "What do I know, right? I only played junior." For starters that is argument to authority, and nobody is going to care that you played junior unless you actually use your knowledge, apply it here and bring out logical points (and you can do that without ever trying to sarcastically bring up how you played in junior).


#1911183 3/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Blackhawks 4

Posted by Doc Holliday on 07 March 2010 - 11:47 PM

Outta curiosity - in what way did you feel Lilja played horrible?...So far I think he's played very well in every game.


This.

The Ladd goal he was out for was no way his fault. Zetterberg over-committed on a hit when Lils was right there and Lebda/Filpulla teamed up to get the puck right in front of Howard.


#1910007 Jiri Hudler

Posted by Doc Holliday on 07 March 2010 - 11:55 AM

Yes please.


#1894685 Jimmy Howard watch thread

Posted by Doc Holliday on 15 February 2010 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (Opie @ February 15, 2010 - 08:28PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah but if it were Eva you would be making fun of his made up stats, correct?

But because his made up stat supports your argument you are arguing based on the fact it supports your point not that it is in any way factual, correct?

Otherwise please show me where you were able to find the SPARC otherwise known as save percentage accounting for rebound control.


I never said Outsiders stats were factual.

I never have once made fun of Eva for his statistics, only made a light-hearted jab at his love for Hudler.

All I said is that clutchngrab was using an ad hom attack. "You are homer so you are skewing the numbers" is ridiculous. If he had simply said "you are pulling those out of your ass" I would have not even bothered to press the reply button. But using someone's "homerism" as the sole reason to attack a premise is plain silly.

Also I don't think the rebound control problem is a huge problem, but I do think he needs to work on it. I also have stated numerous times that Howard earned the #1 spot and that I have no problem seeing him with the majority of the starts from here on out.

Happy?


#1892288 Should Valtteri Filppula be traded?

Posted by Doc Holliday on 12 February 2010 - 02:20 PM

Fil is probably the biggest catch Detroit has right now, trade-wise.

He does his job perfectly well, can play excellent defense, and is not at his prime yet. However I think he is very expendable because he isn't the best offensive player there is or the best defensive player.

I really hope they don't, because I love having Fil on the team.


#1876944 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (hankzet40 @ January 29, 2010 - 11:38PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as I know no, but it's pretty ridiculous Stuey had to do this twice in a year.


This was taken at the Columbus game. Why they wore red that game is beyond me.


#1876938 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (hankzet40 @ January 29, 2010 - 11:31PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another one? Didn't he do that in Columbus too? And wasn't that the 1-0 OT loss which was pretty much the beginning of the Howard era?


Was there already a thread on it?


#1876933 Somewhat Ironic Photograph

Posted by Doc Holliday on 29 January 2010 - 11:27 PM

I found this after looking for some high-res pictures for a background, and I have to say I think it is funny that Stuart of all people is going after the beach ball since he has been swiping away countless stray pucks from behind both Howard and Osgood this season.