Doc Holliday

ShanahanMan is right.  Holland should instead talk about how the team is horrible and that they won't be able to compete for anything.

Hmm, I wonder if Holland is playing it close to the vest or if he's really not that interested.  Work ethic aside, I guess another serious concern is him running off to the KHL.

I honestly don't know, but it is discouraging to see him say that in the media.

Semin would be a great winger for Datsyuk, take off some pressure of our secondary guys, and possibly redefine himself in a Wings uniform.  Holland needs to spend some of this cap space one day or another.

But Franzen wants more fun.....

I wonder how long that ridiculous quote will be misinterpreted before that guy freaking retires...

Exactly.  A thin free agent market and this former 40+ goal scorer is still sitting out there says something about the person.  We're supposed to be making ourselves a better playoff ready team.  I don't see how a soft winger that's inconsistent and disappears during the playoffs helps that.

How does signing nobody help that?

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What a disrespect to one of Detroit's most respected and cherished players....

Say what you will about Holland's job the past couple years, but you can't fault him for what happened with Parise and Suter.  He did just about everything he could to land Suter here.

Even if Sammy isn't going to be as good as he was when he was here, I'm sure he will be able to bring us something we haven't had for the past couple years: Clutch goal scoring in the playoffs.

He doesn't look too shabby in a Wings jersey.

I get the mentality of some of you with his price tag, but I wish this bad nightmare of Semin would just go away.  We don't need another lazy floater.

However, I would love for Doan to play for the Wings.  If we can't get Parise there are some interesting second tier combos that will give us some well rounded depth but not the natural firepower we need.

I've spoken to a few Caps fans, and they personally think the whole "is a lazy floater" thing is overblown.  Ovechkin has really tailed off and appears to be taking a majority of the brunt there now.

Plus, I am starting to warm up to the idea of Semin and Datsyuk on a line.  Datsyuk has always wanted a Russian counterpart since the Larionov days and I bet Semin could get back to his old ways with Pavel.

Sure it is a risk, but it beats losing out on Parise and having no options.

I don't expect(post#35),but he definitely could reach Franzen's 60+ points playing with Dats or Z + he's twice better 2-way player than the Mule...sadly

If we don't have a goal scorer on the first line, what good is that first line?

The Nashville series showed we need MORE goal scorers, not less.

People, myself included, rag on Franzen because he is the absolute opposite of "determined".  He is the laziest, softest player on the team. He also complains about being bored. Franzen has never shown an ounce of determination. I'll gaurantee you that nobody on the Red Wings is inspired by his play or his attitude.

We really should get rid of him, before he does become an influence on the next generation of Red Wings.

Never?  Really?  Wonder where he got the name "Mule", then.

I don't like teams tanking to get high picks.  The Caps did it to get Ovechkin and the Pens tanked to get Malkin and Crosby.  What if the NHL changed it so the 1st overall team in the standings got the 1st overall pick?  It would make the regular season more interesting, that's for sure.  I believe teams, like the Wings, should be rewarded for being successful not punished.  Eliminate the tanking and reward winning.  Just an idea.  I know it will never happen.

They didn't tank.  They were just bad.  And Crosby was drafted by a pick that all 30 teams had an equal chance to get.

Point is: The draft is the best way for teams to rebuild.  Argue about the salary cap causing false parity all you want, but it would be ridiculous to think the league would be better off by giving lottery picks to the top teams in the league.  Those teams are already rewarded by, you know, winning and having success.

What is the news on Quincey?


I cannot believe I got -7 on that first post...I didn't say anything negative except I wish the Cap hit was less...sheesh fickle fans!

Yeah, and I wish every player on the team signed for less than 4 million.

A 2 million dollar cap hit for a guy who will be entering his prime as an amazing bottom sixer is a good deal.  Hell, you should be calling it as steal considering he makes half as much as Johan Franzen.  

Why don't you describe what is going on in the opening post instead of saying "Hey, here is a link, click it and take my word for what is on it"?

25 minute mark has talking about LA rioting (or lack therof) after their cup win.  Nothing about Zach Parise.

27 minute mark talking about crowds and random crap.  Head coach for LA going to stay?  Who knows in this radio broadcast.

28 Phil Jackson talk.  Radio host says "Let's leave Parise aside for the time being".  So 3 minutes after you say we should start listening they discuss Parise only to say that they aren't going to talk about it yet?  Jeez, man.

30 minutes in: Leopold says nobody is going to outbid the Wild.  So if Parise is going anywhere, it is for less money.  The guy just assumes that Parise isn't going to be here simply because the Wild's GM is going to throw as much money as he can at him.  Implying Holland can't afford to do that as well.


Not bad news, just more of what we assumed would happen.

Anser Khan reporting that it's unlikely he'll sign.

We know Hudler is money motivated. Doubt we'll see him back. Remember the cap hits on Franzen ($3.95m) and Filppula ($3.5m). He's not going to be offered more than that, weak market or not.

One dimensional player with very little postseason product. He won't be missed as some seem to think.

As long as we add some offensive contributors I won't mind.

Hudler is a slow, short, weak forward, but he at least was able to score at a good clip, and losing him to free agency isn't exactly a net gain at this point.

how many of the Wings tough guys in the 90s slammed an opponents head into the glass? theres a difference between a normal hockey fight and slamming a guys head into the glass

You mean like this?



The Red Wings weren't angels back in the day.  If they go back to that tough, rough, slightly dirty game, I'll be fine with it.  I enjoy new types of Wings teams.

Sad.

The only thing sad is your consistent attempt to bring out the doom and gloom about this team on this board.