dirtydangles

Logically, if they had offered a contract, it would have been at least 5% more than their previous ELC. Sensibly it wouldn't make sense to not offer a slightly higher contract to a skillful RFA. So it seems these teams just want nothing to do with these players, hence them not negotiating contracts with them.



Holland said the top 9 is good. Babcock stated he wants another top is forward to play with. If our only argument for a top six forward is because the head coach said he wants another one, then you should take a class in head coaching 101. You'll learn that you're a happier coach when you have more weapons at your disposal, whether you need them or not.

richards or gagne FTW.

ahahahaha agreed. i just posted to show how implausible it was. cups are won from the back end. i think an addition of one of gagne or richards (at a reasonable hit) with 2 top 4 dmen would put us in serious contention to win next season.

If detroit has a chance to sign Doughty and there isnt anyone esle they picked up, i would easily be happy to take a hit of 7 from doughty

oh me too.

lol i tried a stamkos lineup for s***s. ya,this would handicap us bigtime.... thats a shaky ass d once lids retires.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Simon Gagne ($3.500m) / Steven Stamkos ($9.000m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Daniel Cleary ($2.800m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.850m)
Drew Miller ($0.650m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / James Wisniewski ($4.500m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Steve Montador ($2.000m)
Doug Janik ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.900m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,129,544; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $170,456

Possibility.  Another team in the East could hurt Detroit's chances to move East.

Awwww shiiiiittttt.

Me too.

why can't we get in on these deals? id take that.

how does wisniewski even replace rafalski? we are worse than last year ATM. and ya, id trade a prospect that might not make an impact in the nhl for a franchise dman. so ya, im pretty pissed. all our rivals are getting better and we are getting worse. why do you think babs would say he was pissed? cause he thought we coulda had him. we had a higher first round pick, then add a top six (fil or franzen) and a upper prospect. id do that. thats not blowing up our team. it certainly didn't blow up sj's team.

imf****** pissed too. i was pushing as hard as anyone to land this guy. shows that a trade was possible, and people (babs) felt like we should have picked him up. f*** holland. carter, richards, and now burns? god i don't see this offseason going well anymore.

Kenny's lining up a biggey, he's not had this much $'s to play with for i dont know how long, top D and top Fwd in-coming but we may loose some faces we are happy with and may cause some un-rest amongst fans,

i really hope this is true. as long as dats, z, and helm stay id be good with any trade that made our team better even if i liked the player.

There's no way Smith makes the team over Kindl. I also have 0 expectation that the Wings make a play for Brad Richards. He's going to want a big pay day and to be somewhere for awhile. Whoever takes him on will probably be handcuffed.

if u read the post i said trade kindl. and ya, smith would have to make the team, but i think itd be a great opportunity for lids to mentor him, and pairing him with a safe solid guy like stuart would be good for his development. why the hell would kenny not make a run at richards? its his job to make the team better. we have the cap space to sign 2 top dmen and richards, why not? who were you going to spend it on? theres a chance richards would be interested in a move to a team like detroit, not the biggest payday available... do you see a gaping weakness in the roster i proposed other than perhaps smith? theres money to sign a UFA at 2mill if you remove smith. its my "dream roster" so ya, its my opinion. not everyone has to like it.

WTF? this pisses me off. We coulda offered Fil, Tatar, First rounder for Richards. Where was Kenny on this one?

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Jaromir Jagr ($2.000m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Brad Richards ($7.200m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.850m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / James Wisniewski ($4.500m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) / Steve Montador ($2.000m)
Doug Janik ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,204,544; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $795,456

with the cap going up to 64 mill and barring a trade for Burns involving Flip, Kindl, and whatever else and im trading hudler for whatever.
Note: although im not a Jagr in detroit fan, u could substitute him for zherdev. I think Helm is ready to be a 3rd line center and i do like that 3rd line a lot. 4th line has lots of options for the younger guys and Homer, obvs Homer would get some time on the top line. I think Stuart is the perfect guy for Smith to grow alongside as stewie is solid and won't put smith in awkward situations often. This year may be lids' last one, so i'd actually like Smith up witht the big team to be mentored by Lids. but hey, thats just me. theres some wiggle room there of 1mill to toss around between wis and richards. ideally we'd reserve 0.5mill. This is also sustainable to next year with lids' contract likely going to re-sign burns, kronner, stuart. and helm and abby getting raises from the retirement of bert, homer likely.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Nikolai Zherdev ($2.500m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Brad Richards ($7.200m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($0.900m)
Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m) / Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Jan Mursak ($0.550m)
Drew Miller ($0.700m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m)

DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m) / Brent Burns ($3.550m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($6.200m) / James Wisniewski ($4.500m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Doug Janik ($0.512m)

GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Brian Boucher ($0.925m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,996,211; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $1,003,789

That's a dirty line-up. Each line is defensively responsible and each line only has one floater on it!

problem is, babs likes to mess with the lineups and that doesn't provide many options in terms of who would play well with who. Too many floaters. One per line is too much.

if im holland im saying this:

man, blueadams needs to get checked out....  this is blueadams female version: substitute cats for line threads.