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#2522757 Jeff Blashill close to signing an extension... Babcock talks starting

Posted by dirtydangles on 04 June 2014 - 04:22 PM

This was the right call by Blash. He could have tried his hand with a struggling franchise as a flavour of the month signing or he can stay and develop himself further and likely inherit a job where he is set up to succeed. I think he wanted to avoid the path Eakins is on perhaps.

#2522649 Adam Almquist says hes considering returning to Sweden to avoid AHL

Posted by dirtydangles on 03 June 2014 - 05:03 PM

Almquist might not be 100% ready for the NHL yet. But from the little bit I've seen of him, I would certainly take him over Kindl, Lashoff, and even Smith (although Smith does occasionally look decent at times).

I agree the Almquist deserves time over Kindl and Lashoff who haven't really solidified themselves and almost played themselves off the roster. But Smith is much improved and was probably our most consistent dman against a big strong boston team in the playoffs. Smith just needed to feel like babcock trusted him. 

#2522623 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 03 June 2014 - 02:47 PM

I am still loving the Kesler scenario.  I am pretty sure Holland really wanted him at the deadline, but the price was too high then.  We all know that Holland eventually gets his target, well usually.  I really don't think we'd miss Smith or Helm if we got Kesler.  We most definitely won't miss that 1st round pick, especially if Vancouver sends us back their 2nd.



to VAN:  Brenden Smith, Darren Helm, GRR prospect (no exemptions left,) 1st round draft pick


to DET: Ryan Kesler, 2nd round pick


Dump Kindl and possibly Lashoff as well.



my perfect scenario gets us Kesler, Edler and Booth and we get rid of Andersson, Franzen, Smith, Helm, Almqvist...but that is just me, I am not saying that will be a trade package, only suggesting who I'd like and who I wouldn't mind going if there were a blockbuster between us and VAN...


BTW, we haven't heard the name Hemsky around these parts in a few...right handed forward...Holland loves him...he could be a pickup we weren't expecting...or were we?

Thats overpayment for Kesler and Nucks fans will say it leaves them with no 2C and Helm isn't good enough. Our 1st is fairly high and Smith is a great young player. Helm is the heart of our Bottom 6. You don't get all those pieces for a C that is on the decline and injury prone. Neither side likes this trade. Realistically I see the value as Smith + 1st + Almquist/Ferraro/Andersson for Kesler but again, Nucks fans will cry about no 2C. 

#2521715 2014 draft thoughts.

Posted by dirtydangles on 25 May 2014 - 01:53 PM

I still think the Wings could try to package a defenseman or 2 and try to move into top 5

This would be possible IF Holland wasn't the GM. 

#2521201 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 19 May 2014 - 08:01 PM

Neal is a very productive player and has the size too. However, we shouldn't be moving assets for wingers when we have an abundance of young wingers and Mantha on the way. We should actually be moving winger(s) for a future top 6 C. We just don't need Neal enough to cough up the assets for him (apparently they want multiple wingers for Crosby and Malkin). I WOULD however like to buy low on Letang if they are selling. Letang is the type of high end RD that we need and could come at a discount due to recent health problems and the need for change in Pitts - perfect storm for us. I don't buy the concern for the future that Letang may suffer more strokes because he will be monitored closely for the rest of his life and his stroke came from a PFO and not a clotting disorder or something genetic. All of his other risk factors for stroke such as cholesterol, lipids, bp, blood sugar etc will be lower than the average person as he is an athlete.  

#2519286 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 05 May 2014 - 03:20 PM

Hi people. Just found this place while searching for Red Wings draft needs and considerations. Wow. Seems like a lot of people know what to do!! I think the main hole they need to fill is top line sniper. I wonder if Ovechkin talks are out of the question???

Welcome to LGW where all the speculation is made up and the posts don't matter!

#2519174 Now some gritty forwards.

Posted by dirtydangles on 04 May 2014 - 02:13 PM

I think bottom line gritty players are a little overrated for this team. Helm, Glendening, Miller, Abby, Callahan are all gritty enough. We need gritty top 6 forwards to absorb some of the punishment that Z and Dats take. A guy like Evander Kane or Wayne Simmonds would go a long way in terms of taking the load off of Z and Dats. Also you have to consider that Nyquist and Tatar are small guys that will take punishment too. I'd be okay with an overpayment for Kane or Simmonds because it will pay off big time for our team in the long run because we don't have any top 6 gritty players. Corey Perry is a pretty perfect example of what this team needs but he is nowhere near available.

#2518819 Is it possible to land Torey Krug?

Posted by dirtydangles on 01 May 2014 - 11:09 PM

I don't think Krug is needed. We have loads of LD players already and considering he is undersized he would be set up for failure on our team - Boston has loads of big bodies around him so he is less exposed and doesn't get run as much. Krug on our team if we played boston would be destroyed by boston forecheckers.

#2518817 Holland Holding on to Jeff Blashill

Posted by dirtydangles on 01 May 2014 - 11:07 PM

I'm glad we are holding onto our organizational talent. Its time we stopped feeding other teams with great talent from the coaching staff up to the front office. The main lag that happened for us was that Holland never stepped down when he said he would (when lids retired) and we ended up losing Nill and a bunch of staff to Dallas. We need to hold onto Blashill - babs has been here for so long its almost time and we need an option to replace him when the time comes. Don't want to end up with torts.

#2518306 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 29 April 2014 - 10:47 PM

I don't think Mantha will be on the team next year. Holland will keep with GR at least one year. called up occasionally maybe but that's it.

I agree but we have to keep a contingency plan in place to have him up the year after - we have to have some expiring contracts for Mantha or Pulkkinen barring a trade that opens up roster spots for them.

#2518005 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 28 April 2014 - 02:05 PM

Watching the wings tank would slowly kill my soul. 

#2517835 Injury Updates

Posted by dirtydangles on 27 April 2014 - 10:19 PM

So much hinges on Weiss it kills me. Its so hard to assess what we have right now. We may have a huge hole at 2C or a reliable 2C who knows... 

Also I think Datsyuk should just do the surgery. I don't want this creeping in again next year. 

#2517510 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 27 April 2014 - 12:37 AM


Abby: I know I said that the Wings need to get bigger and younger, yet as long as Abby's on the team Babs will always want to put him on the top line. I say let's rid Babs of that temptation and trade him. 


Abby might actually be decent trade bait. If we pair him with a 1st and Kindl I wonder if we could get something decent. He is young enough to be valuable to building teams as well as competing teams. We have lots of bottom 6 players right now with Callahan and Ferraro out options and our Kid line and Miller-Helm-Glendening bottom line. Abby isn't a top 6 player on a contender. In a few years if you add Mantha, Pulkkinen to our already crowded top 6 with Nyquist, Z, Franzen, Datsyuk, Weiss, etc. there isn't much room for Abby. 

#2517311 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by dirtydangles on 26 April 2014 - 06:13 PM

I'd really like to get Moulson this offseason. He is the kind of player you put with a skilled C that creates chances. He will bury the chances he gets unlike Abby. 


Vanek is likely going to MIN from what the media says but I'd like to hear that Kenny at least made a comparable offer but was turned down - otherwise he isn't doing his job. 


I know this is going to be unpopular but I don't want to see any acquisitions on D. I think Marchenko and Ouellet are ready and should be up next year. By no means do I rank these 2nd and 3rd pairings any differently - I think Babs has shown he likes to play his pairings pretty equally:


Kronwall - Smith

Dekeyser - Marchenko

Ericsson - Ouellet

Lashoff (with Sproul as first call-up)


I think that if you split Ouellet and Marchenko up like that we will be just fine. Ouellet won't make many rookie mistakes and Marchenko has already played in the KHL. Those pairings all have size and skating. I know people will want E back with Kronner but I just don't think E is a top pairing guy who moves the puck that way. I think that E with Ouellet could be a very steady pairing that can be relied upon to kill penalties going forward.


Let's face it - we aren't getting a top pairing Dman through trade because they aren't available often and Holland blows at trading. I don't see why we should pay top dollar to get a top-4 guy like Edler or Ehrhoff when we will only create a logjam in our D development pipeline going forward and open up a hole somewhere else on the team. Our kids can step up just fine it just takes a shred of patience. 

#2517298 Was Legwand worth it?

Posted by dirtydangles on 26 April 2014 - 06:01 PM

I think everyone here knows how I feel about this. We have a huge question mark going for in our top 6 C positions going forward without Jarnkrok.


Legwand was never a long term answer and he SHOULD have been pretty inexpensive to acquire considering he is an aging UFA that would only waive to come to Detroit (so no competing offers). Despite this we ended up giving up our top C prospect who was just getting hot and a 2nd in a deep draft. That hurts. 


Having Weiss going into next season it makes it pretty clear this was a move by holland PURLY to get into the playoffs. There is no long-term place for Legwand on the roster with all our kids and Weiss around.


Would I rather have Jarnkrok + 2nd and not get to brag to my friends that Detroit has made the playoffs 23 years straight? Yes! We did dick-all in the playoffs and embarrassed ourselves anyways. I will be keeping my head down even around Leafs fans after this playoff performance. The streak means nothing to me if you don't at least come somewhat close every once and a while to winning the cup (which we haven't since 09). Holland showed that the streak means more to him than the long term future of the team - the streak is his legacy at this point in addition to his previous cups (he is too near to the end of his term here to go full youth movement and turn the roster over).