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#2326416 New Commissioner?

Posted by dirtydangles on 22 August 2012 - 11:40 AM

I strongly disagree with the bolded part. I believe that if you're going to run a sport then it should be something that you actually know. You shouldn't be in charge of rule changes and such things unless you've actually played the game and know WHY changes need to be made. Coaches would be fine candidates as well. Someone like Scotty Bowman as mentioned would be good. My personal favorite from my list prior would be Messier. Either way, the league should be someone that the NHL, NHLPA and fans can all RESPECT.

I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your post though.

Ya I don't think a lot of people would boo scotty or mark out of respect during a cup presentation. you always get a few uneducated assholes though.


#2326404 New Commissioner?

Posted by dirtydangles on 22 August 2012 - 09:58 AM

All I care about is that it was a former player or GM or somebody involved in the game. Somebody needs to care about the sport itself when all the money talks are being thrown around. I'm not saying that this person should side with the players at all, its just somebody to remind the owners what is realistically an option when negotiating with the players.


#2325643 IF there is a lockout, where will our players likely end up?

Posted by dirtydangles on 17 August 2012 - 10:10 AM

Hard to say. If there is a lockout, do you jump the gun and go play somewhere or do you wait, thinking the lockout will end sooner rather than later.

The other thing to think about is that guys like Datsyuk and Zetterberg are older now. They were in their mid-late 20's the last time, but being older now, would they prefer the rest? Or is it more important to play in order to stay in shape....if they don't play, might be harder to get in shape than younger guys.


I posted in another thread that it would be cool to get some of our guys playing with our prospect talent in europe. Jarnkrok is in Brynas and Z could possibly head there with Franzen. Fil could go to Jokerit to play with Pulks and develop some chemistry. I just think it would be good to make lemonade with these lemons and get our prospects accustomed to the boys early. Not to mention Jarnkrok and Pulks could be making the team the year after the lockout...


#2325641 Hockey News sees us finishing 7th

Posted by dirtydangles on 17 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

I think we will see Z and Dats really step it up (85+points each) with the absence of Lids and guys like Fil, Kronner, Cleary will also have bigger effects than in the past. Maybe Franzen steps up? who knows...


#2325619 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by dirtydangles on 17 August 2012 - 08:22 AM

Anyone trying to blame Bettman fully is overreaching. Anyone saying Bettman is just a mouthpiece with no blame is understating. Gary Bettman makes 8M dollars a year to be a mouthpiece? I don't think so. From wiki:

"6.1 Office of Commissioner, Election and Term of Office The League shall employ a Commissioner selected by the Board of Governors. The Commissioner shall serve as the Chief Executive Officer of the League and is charged with protecting the integrity of the game of professional hockey and preserving public confidence in the League. The Board of Governors shall determine the term of office and compensation of the Commissioner. The Commissioner shall be elected a majority of the Governors present and voting at a League meeting at which a quorum was present when it was convened.“[1]
In Section 6.3, his duties are spelled out as having "responsibility for the general supervision and direction of all business and affairs of the League", co-ordinates matters between member clubs and serves as the principal public spokesman for the League. The Commissioner also has authority over dispute resolution, League committees, interpretation of League rules, appointment of League staff, NHL financial matters, contracting authority, scheduling, officials and disciplinary powers.[2] The Commissioner also determines the date and places of Board of Governor meetings."

Bettman has a HUGE influence on the league and isn't just some puppet to be controlled. He is providing a vision for the owner's and furthermore has FAILED at protecting the integrity of the game and preserving confidence in the league.
The worst part of Bettman is the smug look he has on his face when he tells bad news to the fans. He LOVES playing the villain it seems. He isn't bothered by fans booing and doesn't seem to care too much for the sport of hockey at all, which is part of his job description. This is one of the main reasons I hate Bettman so much but all the rest stands alone too.


P.S. if there is a lockout it would be cool if Z went to Brynas to play with Jarnkrok and groom him/develop a friendship. Fil could go play with Pulks in Jokerit to develop chemistry for the future.


#2325535 Prospects Tournament Cancelled

Posted by dirtydangles on 16 August 2012 - 03:28 PM

i'm surprised. i still thought it would be a great learning experience etc regardless of whether or not there is a new season. guess not.


#2325380 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by dirtydangles on 15 August 2012 - 03:50 PM

the players should have low balled them. bettman is acting as if they did anyways and now is gonna want more movement from the nhlpa towards what he would like. whatever concessions the players made over salary should be solidified and they can budge a bit on contract terms for length etc. thats all i can see the players giving up at this point without taking a huge blow.


#2325220 What do you consider a fair CBA?

Posted by dirtydangles on 14 August 2012 - 04:09 PM

it blows my mind how bettman still has a job. literally nobody likes him and he brings heat to everyone who supports him. he doesn't give a bag of pucks what product ends up on the ice as long as there is money in the owner's pockets. this is like a bailout where banks survive by taking away a large portion of all their clients money.


#2325141 What do you consider a fair CBA?

Posted by dirtydangles on 14 August 2012 - 10:07 AM

I think the RFA years should last only until 25. People are forced to play out a better portion of their career on a team and city that they may not be in love with. And if you don't like it then you can just be shelved long term (you don't have to be traded) whereas in the normal workforce you can quit and look for new work.

I think there SHOULD be a limit on contract lengths. If you break down the average player's career there is an ideal max length of around 5 years.
18-23: gives GMs 2 RFA years to hammer out a new contract for an additional 5 years.
24-29: prime years for fwds.
30-35: veteran contributor fwd. dman in prime.
36-41: twilight of career.
If you consider the general scheme of player development and contribution, it makes sense to have contracts max out at around 5 years. This way you don't get players in the twilight of their career being paid to play as a prime fwd. Then you don't have stupid situations where teams can't compete years down the road due to a stupid contract given out by a previous GM years ago that cap strapped the team (and could cause them to dip into revenue sharing).

There should be a soft cap of +2mill on the ceiling that allows for teams to have some wiggle room in re-signing their talent (however twice this amount must be paid into revenue sharing) and you cannot use the soft cap in 3 consecutive years.

35+ contracts should be dealt with on a case by case basis. There should be a vote among GMs as to whether or not a team should pay for a player's cap hit depending on the contract situation. Say you signed a 35 year old to a 2 year contract in good faith and he was levelled by Chara and had a career ending concussion. That team shouldn't have to pay the cap hit for those 2 years as the contract was reasonable and the injury was not likely caused by his age. However if a team signs a 35 year old with a history of knee problems to a 5 year deal and he has set backs and cannot play anymore, the team should have known better and would be responsible for the risk they took when attempting to acquire that player. This is a system where GMs will keep each other honest and prevents GMs from using contract length to outbid other GMs.

Owners and players should split the revenue 50/50 and call it even for good. You can't have hockey without one or the other. It sucks, but this should just be dealt with now so that this doesn't happen again.


#2324456 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by dirtydangles on 09 August 2012 - 02:17 PM

if he moves fil im gonna be so pissed. we NEED fil for the next transition phase.


#2324138 Our current forwards.

Posted by dirtydangles on 07 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

Id rather have a bunch of 20 goal scorers than one 40 goal guy. Its hard to shut down consistent team scoring - one 40 goal guy can be shut down. This is especially true in the playoffs where those guys take a punishment. I don't think our depth was good enough to compete against the preds this playoffs but I think we improved our scoring depth this offseason and we have a lot of guys that have 15-25 goal potential, so even if one goes cold we are still okay.


#2324127 Red Wings Sign Jurco to Entry Level Contract

Posted by dirtydangles on 07 August 2012 - 08:21 AM

in a couple years bert and sammy will be off the books in addition to cleary likely being gone. At that time I expect to see some prospects make the jump. lets hope jurco is ready by then.


#2323982 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by dirtydangles on 06 August 2012 - 10:35 AM

This is one trade that we should most definitely not be overpaying on. JBo is solid but not elite and not worth overpayment. Id be happy to have him if it doesnt hurt the team bu acquiring him. Our top assets should only be used to acquire elite players as we dont exactly have a plethora of tradeable assets right now.


#2321179 Visnovsky files NHLPA grievance to void NYI trade

Posted by dirtydangles on 23 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

1 year deal isn't too risky. still at age 35 and being 5 10' LH shot, we don't really need that rather than giving up a second that could be used to draft guys like ouellet and sproul


#2320266 Flyers sign Weber to offer sheet: 14y/$110m ($56m 1st 4yrs)

Posted by dirtydangles on 19 July 2012 - 10:30 AM

holmgrem is a studf****** muffin. I was pissed at first, but god dammit the guy is a genius. This could come back to haunt him if he has his own RFAs to handle but god, the front loaded deal that was so much money up front was genius. The preds can't afford that even though the rest of the contract is affordable in terms of cap hit. This is genius. If Holland did this I'd be saying the same thing. It wasn't a "gentleman's" move but man can this guy bring talent to his team.