I just don't get it. So many needs and cap space and alleged urgency and.....nothing.
THIS. This inactivity is why I'm scared we won't get much in free agency. not to mention players take note of whether a team is on the rise and are getting better. we can't rely on reputation to get ufas.
the trick is what the flyers did. they had some good players on longish contracts and flipped them for young studs and picks. now they have serious assets. our issue is we let our players get old and then we can't trade them anymore.
Wait wait wait. Now are you telling me that he looked at that amazing up and coming talent pool of the mighty Minnesota Wild and thought the Wings were a better option?? This does not make sense according to a picture painted for us by a certain poster...
Lol after hearing this bull for so long its fun to poke fun at it.
The only reason I see Staal wanting Detroit would be that Z and Dats are almost 10 years older and he would allow them to play together again and he would be guaranteed the future in Detroit unlike Pens who have 2 young unbelievable centres in Crosby and Malkin. Staal is the best fit I think of the 3 but also the youngest.
Lowest price tag would be ryan then staal (because ufa in 1 year) then nash would be highest i bet.
I'd do Franzen, Abby, Jurco, 2nd for Staal at the draft. Abby can be replaced. Franzen is a sniper they want, but his age is an issue so they would want a sexy prospect like Jurco. Then throw in the 2nd rounder.
okay so what are hudler's rights worth now? Draft picks don't get any later than a late 7th rounder 2 years from now.... what is holland going to offer for rights if this is what he accepts? like schultz rights for a 6th in 2020?
I like that second trade with Stuart for Schultz. The first is good too but I wouldn't mind seeing Quincey inserted in there somewhere in place of Ericsson. I guess I just like Ericsson better than Quincey.
Ya I agree that Ericsson is better than Quincey. But since Quincey is un-signed and an RFA Anaheim would still have to negotiate a contract that could be higher than they are willing to pay. The thing that makes Ericsson or White attractive is that they have a set cap that has no negotiation, I'm pretty sure Ericsson has a modified NTC though. I just don't see White in our future for some reason.
How about I up the stakes.
Filppula, White, Tatar, 1st 2013
I know they like their finnish players down in anaheim...
EDIT: Remember that Perry is in the last year of his contract. How do you think this affects things?
anaheim gets bent over and detroit has its way with it. seriously.
Franzen, Kindl, Hudler(UFA rights maybe a 7th rounder) for Ryan?
Stuart UFA rights for Schultz UFA rights = Fair
Brookbank can't even be involved at this point.
Bobby Ryan is younger, more potential, and better than Franzen, Kindl and a 7th. This trade makes Anaheim worse in a bad way. Kindl is a fringe nhl player and hudler is undersized (and they still have to sign him themselves). I mean there is enough quantity but the quality coming back to anaheim will prevent this trade from happening.
Just so I'm not just turning your deal down, I will present a counter offer. People around here far too often just say no to people and don't offer opinion.
Franzen, White/Ericsson, 2nd Round Pick
Stuart (UFA rights)
Schultz (UFA rights)
I think that might work. Its a lot to give up, but Ryan is a young talent and an offensive upgrade on everyone not named Dats or Z in our top 6.
Here me out on this... I think there is something there in this trade. Its just you need to tweak it a bit as Green>Franzen+Kindl but Helm>Laich.
Det - Mike Green RFA
Wsh - Johan Franzen, Ian White, (Maybe a pick if needed?)
Then we go and do something like this:
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Gustav Nyquist ($0.875m)
Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / David Jones ($4.000m)
Danny Cleary ($2.800m) / Darren Helm ($2.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m)
Brandon Prust ($1.000m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Drew Miller ($0.838m) / Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) /
Ryan Suter ($7.500m) / Mike Green ($5.000m)
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m) / Justin Schultz ($2.000m)
Jakub Kindl ($0.883m) /
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m)
Josh Harding ($1.250m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,362,500; BONUSES: $37,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,937,500
Bertuzzi is the only lazy player left on the team. Alternative to Schultz is sign Quincey at 3.5mill. That D looks too good (if green stays healthy). Green would replace White's right shot but he has size and the potential to be a huge point producer. Jones replaces Franzen on the right wing but with a more reasonable contract length and a right shot. Next season we can part ways with Cleary if he doesn't have it together this season and insert Tatar. Pretty good situation for the future. I think all contracts are reasonable cap hits. Let me know what you think.