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#2531498 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by ogreslayer on 11 July 2014 - 09:28 AM

 

Sorry, I was trying to follow what you were saying but was distracted by your choice to use an injured Red Wings player down on the ice as your avatar. 

 

But I guess it goes with you hoping for a Wings player to get injured. 

 

Hmmm, that feels a little like a baiting reply to me...

 

Nowhere in my post did I say I'm hoping Cleary will get injured.  I'm just flat out predicting that he will & it will happen early in the season.  Too much of a history of injuries the past handful of seasons & way too many miles.  I'll go on the record in fact on how I think this plays out...

 

  • Around the week of 9/15, we'll start seeing media reports of Cleary not skating due to groin soreness
  • He'll try to go in the last pre-season game in Boston or maybe 2 of the last 3 and skate like his age matches his jersey #.  Yes, I'm assuming Alfie will be back so Dan will not skate like he's 11.
  • Despite struggling in the 1 or 2 pre-season games he appears in, he'll still make the team & Jurco winds up in GR.  I'll save this rant until another time but my theory is Cleary making the team has much more to do with Babcock than Kenny.
  • Danny looks terrible to start the season & after 3-4 games (around 10/15-17) we start seeing commentary on him being a warrior for playing through either what is thought to be a sports hernia or complications with his knees again.  HSJ will be the one leading the pack on those reports.
  • After a rather lopsided loss to either the Canadiens or the Pens the week of 10/21 where Cleary checks in with at least a -3 for the night with a couple of particularly boneheaded turnovers, he's put on the DL & Jurco is recalled.  
  • He tries to make an early return right after Thanksgiving & only lasts a few games before heading back to the DL.
  • Trade deadline day rolls around, there's no action from the Wings, & the board goes crazy when "The return of a healthy Dan Cleary and ... are our deadline acquisitions" ("and ..." being one of the following: Zetterberg, Datsyuk, or Franzen, my money's on Franzen) comes out of the mouth of Holland.  Much weeping & gnashing of teeth ensues.  

So in actuality, I'm hoping everyone stays healthy.  Given past history though, I'm expecting that won't happen & in Cleary's case, I'm expecting it to happen fairly quickly.  




#2530845 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by ogreslayer on 09 July 2014 - 01:46 PM

 

As Kip mentioned, it's part of negotiating. They likely ask for Mantha, Detroit replies with Ferraro. And for the record, I'd take Red Green for comedic relief on the 4th line.

The Legwand trade was made out of desperation. Poile had Holland over a barrel there.

 

But then where does Cleary fit in if he re-signs?




#2529013 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by ogreslayer on 01 July 2014 - 07:11 PM

And somewhere in a dark, quiet room, Brett Lebda & Derek Meech are waiting for their calls from Kenny too at this very moment.  




#2528428 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by ogreslayer on 01 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

I smell a Commie plot!  This has got to be Soviet payback for stealing Fedorov in '89.  Putin's replaced the real Ken Holland with a look alike, cloned in a jungle laboratory a la "Boys From Brazil". 

Commie plot you say?

 

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#2524213 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by ogreslayer on 17 June 2014 - 11:31 AM

Ultimately, I think this is going to be like a Draper/Maltby situation, an insurance policy in case one of the kids they're relying on blows it in camp.  There's barely room for Jurco on the team, especially if Alfie comes back, let alone a broken down Cleary plus you got Ferarro & Callahan out of options.  He either winds up in GR as a player/mentor or he'll take a job with the organization somewhere else.  




#2524160 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by ogreslayer on 17 June 2014 - 09:14 AM

How does that saying go?  "If you love someone, set it free.  If it returns to you, lock the doors & don't take any of his agent's calls."




#2523930 Wings sign Tomas Nosek to 2 year entry level deal

Posted by ogreslayer on 15 June 2014 - 11:15 AM

Ot: Since you are from Europe too I am annoyed by the exact opposite. Fans who don't care about identification and local heroes, same goes for nationalism there is nothing wrong with wanting to be proud of your club by expecting less foreigners and more homegrown boys, especially in soccer where everyone knows there are around 8 clubs worldwide who will get the best of the best.. People who only want to see points, points and success at all costs are the typical gloryhunters and event fans who have helped turning European soccer into what it is today, a business first industry, suit driven industry instead of a sport. In short not even worth watching, following anymore As for VM; I fully expect our scouts - who are one of the best in the business - to also look at Michigan boys but there really is a pattern with the Wings and all I expect is a different mixture of players. I know this worked great when others where behind the curve but nowadays almost every team has scouts worldwide so finding gems is a lot tougher. Maybe the kid will be good maybe not but personally I would have prefered another Dekeyser story just at the center position this time. like you said I think it would be important for Michigan boys to have that special feeling come draft time. I mean every kid dreams of playing for their local club once they are on the cusp of becoming pros.

 

"local boys" per season...

 

96-97: Aaron Ward (Windsor)

97-98: Aaron Ward (Windsor)

01-02: None

07-08: Brian Rafalski (Dearborn)

12-13: Justin Abdelkader (Muskegon), Luke Glendening (Grand Rapids), David Legwand (Detroit), Drew Miller (East Lansing), Danny DeKeyser (Detroit)

 

Good thing those good ol' local boys were around this past season to spur the Wings on to a Cup win, right?  Right?  Personally, I would rather have the front office concern themselves with building the best 23 man roster they can regardless of where the players come from.  




#2519173 4th Annual Playoff Money On The Board!

Posted by ogreslayer on 04 May 2014 - 01:36 PM

Vladdy as always, thanks for heading the effort up.  My rounded up payment in now on the way.  Sorry about the delay.




#2511385 4/18 ECQF Game 1 GDT: Red Wings 1 @ Bruins 0. DET leads series 1-0

Posted by ogreslayer on 19 April 2014 - 08:16 AM

Lucic won't be suspended, there was no injury and it's the playoffs.

 

Didn't look like there was any feeling out period, they just went into full blown don't give an inch playoff hockey.  Very intense game focused on limiting chances against.

 

Both goalies were fantastic.

 

Legwand-Glendening-Miller did a fantastic job.  There were a lot of times they took a d-zone faceoff and the next draw was in the Bruins' end.

 

Kids looked like they've all been here before, between the Calder Cup last year and the tight end of the season this year, there wasn't much adjustment for them.

 

Plus he wasn't suspended for doing the same thing to Alexei Emelin about a month ago.  The best revenge isn't a suspension anyways, it's continuing to get under his skin, taking him off his game, & taking the series.




#2509547 WCQF - Series F - Blues vs. Blackhawks

Posted by ogreslayer on 14 April 2014 - 11:23 AM

Darth Vader vs Voldemort

 

I guess I have to go with the Blues.

 

Great, now I'm picturing Hitch in black armor and a cape & a bald Quenneville with no nose.  I work around way too many Hawks fans, so I too am pulling for the Blues in this one.




#2509544 4th Annual Playoff Money On The Board!

Posted by ogreslayer on 14 April 2014 - 11:17 AM

I will go with:

 

$5 per series win

$5 per series sweep

$5 per Kronwalling

$10 per Kronwalling if recipient is Brad Marchand

$1 per game played by Hank

$1 per goal from any player from the 2013 Calder Cup winning roster (Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Andersson, Glendening, Lashoff, & DeKeyser. Will add to list for call-ups if any) 




#2508562 Maple Leafs Name Shanahan New Club President

Posted by ogreslayer on 10 April 2014 - 10:16 PM

Nothing more than a move to get a big hockey name to fill the position to ease fan backlash. 

 

My only concern is him poaching staff from the Wings.

 

IF he had maybe ended his career in Detroit & actually worked in the front office, there might be cause for concern.  I think the chances of him actually poaching anyone from the Wings is pretty slim.




#2506216 Glendening signed to 3 year extension

Posted by ogreslayer on 05 April 2014 - 03:46 PM

I can't believe nobody's asked yet...  Did Kenny give him a NTC?

 

  :hehe:




#2504529 Weiss - who would take him next season and does he have a full NTC

Posted by ogreslayer on 02 April 2014 - 10:42 AM

As Richdg said we do have 1 more buyout we can use this summer.  Maybe its Weiss?  Also a lot of the reason Howard is struggling is the defense is terrible.  I think if the wings can get a couple solid d guys in the offseason then we may see a better Howie next season.

 

And that 1 buy out, their 2nd compliance buy out, cannot be used on Weiss as he was signed after the new CBA went in effect.  Tootoo will get the last compliance buy out imo.  If the Wings move on Weiss, it will have to be a regular buy out i.e. some of his cap hit will remain after. 




#2503066 3/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Maple Leafs 2

Posted by ogreslayer on 29 March 2014 - 07:35 PM

Bernier did save a goal there.  Tatar would have sent his water bottle to the press box.

Might be good for Tatar that he didn't.  Clarkson would want a word with him then.