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#2491219 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 05 March 2014 - 06:51 PM

They should convince radulov to come here to play with datsyuk they played good together at the olympics

It wasn't Radulov, and no thanks.  He's a headcase and a terrible team player. 

 

Someone's gotta say it...

 

Since trading away Jarnkrok, the Red Wings now face a tough decision.  Who is the next player (aside from Mantha) that will be a star for the Griffins after their season is over.  The answer is very simple.  Hampus Melen will report to GR this year!  There's your next headline people...just have to print the newspapers.  :D




#2491146 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Jersey Wing on 05 March 2014 - 06:07 PM

Now THIS is the Let's Go Wings I know and love. The panic. The justifications. The embiggened anti or pro Holland posters posting, the reasoning, the speculation.

 

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, now that's more like it. 

 

 

And for what it's worth, when it comes to Jarnkrok there aren't a whole lot of guys making grand careers for themselves in the NHL that the Wings gave up on/got rid of/traded at his age. There have been a couple but in assessing talent the Wings aren't exactly the Islanders either...




#2490649 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 05 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

How much value do you guys put on Eaves?! Even with all these injuries he barely cracks the lineup.




#2490428 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by e_prime on 05 March 2014 - 03:01 PM

Garth Snow not moving Vanek is way worse than Ken Holland not making a move.




#2489474 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by VM1138 on 04 March 2014 - 07:29 PM

Chicago absolutely did take Detroit seriously. Their play was consistent with their previous round, Toews lost his cool and hurt his team, and our kids outplayed the Hawks.

We lost because we choked, not because Chicago was on some other level. Chicago barely escaped.

Tanking to get one player is just not smart.


#2489362 Luongo to Panthers

Posted by WingsAlways on 04 March 2014 - 05:27 PM

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#2489241 Question about Mantha

Posted by achildr1 on 04 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

 
True, Kirk Maltby was a 50 goal scorer in juniors after all.


Mickey...is that you?


#2488491 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 02 March 2014 - 05:15 AM

It's amazing how wrong you are.

 

This team is currently 7th in goals allowed

 

They are 12th in goals scored. 

 

This team is in bad need of finishers, the defense while not spectacular hasn't been as bad as many people think it is.

 

We have a solid top six and an electric third line, even with some key forwards injured. We don't have a legitimate top four, even with a fully healthy D corps. Given that defense wins championships (see: Team Canada), we should be looking to bolster our blue line. Take care of the defense and the offense should take care of itself. (Indeed, the main reason why our offense has been sagging is that our blue line isn't driving and directing the attack like it used to, when we had an actual top four with not one but three all-star offensive defensemen playing monster minutes.)




#2488321 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Nevermind on 01 March 2014 - 03:15 PM

What part of hockey is Kesler at all superior to Z?


Diving and flopping.


#2488246 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by DickieDunn on 01 March 2014 - 09:03 AM

To people saying Ehrhoff isn't what we need: come off it.

 

We need a top-four defenseman who can move the puck, QB the PP, drive the offense, put up points. Preferably a veteran (we have plenty of young talent), and, though we're looking for an o-minded guy, he needs to be good in his zone. Basically: a younger, lesser Kronwall. That's Ehrhoff. He and DeKeyser would be the second pairing, which would do wonders for him, as he's used to facing the opposition's top guns every shift of every game. Further, a top four of Kronwall-Ericsson and Ehrhoff-DeKeyser would allow for a solid third pairing for years to come. It'd be continuous war for those two spots, which would, in theory, bring out the best in Smith, Quincey (?), Lashoff, Kindl, Marchenko, Almqvist, Ouellet, Sproul. (One or two or three of those would ultimately have to be traded, of course). The only issue with Ehrhoff is his contract. Personally, I don't think it's all that terrible.

 

As for Stewart - self-explanatory. Big, mean, RH power forward in his prime. I feel like people are probably making a bit too much of the rumors about him clashing with Hitchcock. As I've said before, everyone clashes with Hitchcock sooner or later. I mean, sure, he may have some maturity issues or whatever, and Babcock probably isn't the greatest coach of young talent. But it's well known that power forwards tend to have special development curves which can be frustrating, but which - you hope - is ultimately worth it. For us, a team sorely lacking in pretty much everything Stewart would bring to the table...I think it'd be worth it. At the right price.

 

Ehrhoff-Stewart in 2014! Change we can believe in!

 

The issue with Ehrhoff isn't his ability, it's his contract.  

 

You know how Franzen is perceived as a floater?  Stewart really is a floater.  He works just hard enough on defense to not get benched and has no desire to play a 200 foot game.


I can't believe I just read all that bickering about what an offensive/defensive d-man is... and the Myers rants... but I'll throw in.

 

Meyers *might* have more upside, but Danny DeKeyser is further along in his NHL development than Tyler Meyers.

 

As we have a pipeline of our own defensive prospects/projects...

we don't need the big bodied question mark of potential that is Tyler Myers for our playoff run.

 

Bingo.  The Wings have a ton of young d-men, several of whom have the potential to be better than Myers.  There's no need for them to take on that contract because Myers might get better in Detroit.




#2488240 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by e_prime on 01 March 2014 - 08:37 AM

I can't believe I just read all that bickering about what an offensive/defensive d-man is... and the Myers rants... but I'll throw in.

 

Meyers *might* have more upside, but Danny DeKeyser is further along in his NHL development than Tyler Meyers.

 

As we have a pipeline of our own defensive prospects/projects...

we don't need the big bodied question mark of potential that is Tyler Myers for our playoff run.




#2488230 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 March 2014 - 07:28 AM

by no means should Nyquist, Sheahan, Tatar or Jurco be traded. Right now I trade Helm before I trade Sheahan...




#2486507 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by VM1138 on 24 February 2014 - 09:07 AM

Holland hasn't made moves because hardly any team has made moves. The recent CBA's made it far too restrictive to trade players.

And this year a lot of teams have cap issues, are in the playoff hunt, or won't want our pieces. Don't always mistake Holland not making moves as not wanting to make moves.

Things are very tight and there just aren't a lot of options out there.


#2485392 10 ton elephant in the room.

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 20 February 2014 - 10:01 AM

I've just re-read this entire thread purely from an entertainment perspective (and because I'm procrastinating instead of working, but still) and have found myself enlightened. 

 

To summarise: A rather crazy suggestion was made that we should buy out either our franchise icon at present, our best player and captain, leader, heart and soul guy, or a guy who has firmly established himself as a 30 goal scorer in this league, a guy who is one of the most dominant offensive threats in the league when he's rolling and on his game. 

 

Subsequently, the statement was made that we don't have goalscorers, and that to overcome this problem we should trade either of the two aforementioned, who have combined to provide the Wings with 1/6th of our goals this year.

 

As us fans often do, we look back retrospectively at what could have been, and thus the last 3 pages of this thread have been spent lamenting the fact that we didn't get Bobby Ryan and thus our entire front office is 'lazy', just like Franzen and even Bobby Ryan himself! 

 

Thus I feel compelled to add my 2 cents:

 

  • No we shouldn't buy out our captain or Franzen, what kind of a message does that send to the rest of the players in the league for a start, to both players? 
  • Can we scrap this 'floater' term to describe a player who is lazy? Is annoying and wholly inaccurate in terms of describing a player's tendency when they're on the ice. 
  • Franzen IMO, is worth that much more than Vanek. 1. He has great chemistry within our team. 2. He's proven to score when we needed it most (see 08 playoffs). 3. His contract is an absolute bargain, in a league with a cap that will forever go up, once again driving up salaries and leading to another lockout when Gary can't face the fact that the Panthers are losing more than just the $100,000 a day that was rumoured this past week (and just to avoid another 'fact' argument here's the link with proof! http://prohockeytalk...ing-100k-daily/) and doesn't want to have them fold or re-loacte them to Quebec City
  • Franzen may be infuriatingly inconsistent at times, but he's not lazy or a 'floater'. Surely most of us here have gone out there and played hockey on a regular basis (or any sport for that matter) and just had an 'off' game, when it doesn't all fit quite right and you know you haven't got it that day. You can argue they're paid to play, but everyone is human after all. And when he's hot, like he was for a lot of this year, it's incredibly exciting. 
  • I still believe in this team, with or without Z for the remainder of this year. You could classify me as being optimistic perhaps, but if Franzen and Weiss come back and are healthy and productive, with Howard getting his game together, and the kids staying up, why can't we squeeze into the playoffs? I see no reason why not. 



#2484209 10 ton elephant in the room.

Posted by dat's sick on 15 February 2014 - 10:36 AM

There's no room, and there is certainly no elephant in it.