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#2369588 Time to blow it up and rebuild

Posted by ogreslayer on 15 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

I still contend that if not for the lockout, this team would look much much different right now.  Given a full training camp & pre-season, we probably would have seen at least Nyquist & Tatar up full time at the start of the season.  With the compressed, shortened season, Kenny was actually pretty smart to sign some known quality veterans to plug into the lineup instead of relying on rookies.  As we've seen with all of the injuries, where would the Wings be now if they had already been relying on the likes of Nyquist, Tatar, Andersson, & Lashoff before the injuries started and suddenly didn't have the same depth available in GR to keep them in the hunt for the playoffs?  No need to take drastic measures, the Wings are already in the middle of a transition that will naturally accelerate come this off season.  

#2369532 OEL Extends, 6y/$33m

Posted by ogreslayer on 15 March 2013 - 09:19 PM

From the 5 or 6 Phoenix games I've watched this year, OEL has looked like the best defenseman in the league. Mind you I haven't seen much at all of Letang or Karlsson.

Nobody's seeing much of Karlsson right now.  The fans of the Nordiques 2.0 will like this signing.

#2368994 Red Wings close to re-signing Howard

Posted by ogreslayer on 14 March 2013 - 12:17 PM

Im ok for howie but the 5mil for fil is nuts with his production.


What's nuts is that he's never had a reliable backup at all & has been overworked for the past few years now.  How many more years of that can Howie take before he starts to break down?  Is it really 6 or 7?

#2368978 Datsyuk Leaving?!

Posted by ogreslayer on 14 March 2013 - 11:55 AM

Alright, lets say Holland does start shopping him around, either this year or next, who do you think we would get in return that would be anywhere worth it?


Ultimately, I think a playoff run & one year of Datsyuk is the best trade chip that Holland has at his disposal right now if he wants to use it.  If Paul Gaustad was worth a 1st round pick as simply a playoff rental, Pavel is worth that & much more.  The Wings probably wouldn't get a top line scorer or #1 d-man back in the trade but who knows, maybe Anaheim (knowing they aren't going resign him) do a sign & trade with Corey Perry for example.  At the very least though the Wings would get a good package of picks, prospects, and/or developing talent already in the NHL in order to restock the shelves so to speak.  There simply isn't a single player in the organization now that would bring back as much value as Datsyuk would at this moment in my opinion, even with just a year & a half to go in the NHL if he truly does head back to Russia after next season.


In my mind, it comes down to what's more valuable: One last season with Datsyuk & then losing him for nothing or in essence selling off that year to bring in talent for years to come.

#2368966 Datsyuk Leaving?!

Posted by ogreslayer on 14 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

I'll say it despite probably getting flamed for it...  If this really is the case, Holland better be quietly shopping Datsyuk to a small handful of teams who think they're one player away from being a lock for The Cup this season.

#2368826 3/13 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Flames 5

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 March 2013 - 10:55 PM

Jimmy needs to send Monster a thank you card for the assist on his new big money contract he's going to sign soon.

#2368673 We are the Detroit Red Wings and we are making the playoffs

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 March 2013 - 09:46 PM



They had a hot goalie and a better roster offensively.  Much better.  They finished as the #1 seed that season if I remember correctly.

#2 seed in the East with 112 points, 1 behind Ottawa.  


And I can't believe the playoff discussion's gone this long with nobody else busting this out:


#2367965 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by ogreslayer on 12 March 2013 - 11:05 AM

I hope Holland at least had the decency to tell Tatar "It's not you, it's me" before breaking up with him.

#2367954 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by ogreslayer on 12 March 2013 - 10:52 AM

There's no denying that.  The problem is Tatar can be sent down without a risk of losing him where as Cleary and Abdelkader cannot.  Don't get me wrong, I'd prefer if Tatar wasnt sent down either but it is what it is.


For me, the way I see it shaking out is the lines I posted above, then when Fil comes back he can slot in with Zetterberg - Brunner, which pushes Abs down to the 3rd line. 


Oh if only someone would claim Cleary if the Wings put him on waivers.

#2367934 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by ogreslayer on 12 March 2013 - 10:19 AM

This is absolutely crazy. How do they send this guy Down. Arguably the best forward for this team lately. I don't get it!


I still think it comes down to wanting to give Nyquist a look with the big club again to see what he can do.  That means either Tatar or Andersson had to get sent down.  You're simply swapping a LW for a LW instead of a center.  Really, I wouldn't be too shocked to see Andersson get sent back down soon in a swap for Ferraro or Sheahan.  It's all about giving some of the young guys a chance to start auditioning for a full-time spot next year a little early.  They've got an extended look at Tatar now, let's bring the next guy in line up to see what he can do.

#2367923 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by ogreslayer on 12 March 2013 - 09:57 AM

Tatar got his tryout for a permanent spot next season & looks like he's locked one up.  I see this as Kenny telling Nyquist that it's his turn to try to do the same.  Can he do that playing on the 3rd line though?  I have my doubts he'll be in the top 6 given past history.

#2367203 3/9 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Blue Jackets 3

Posted by ogreslayer on 09 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

It's all about potential and having hunger as a GM. Holland is too complacent because of all he's already won.

And you're forgetting they got within a game of making the Finals a few years back. Struggles since then, but I think he'll turn it around.  

Oh and Yzerman traded Quincey for a 1st round pick


Which was largely done on a roster he inherited & a hot goalie that he got really lucky on.  They missed the playoffs last year by 8 points & he's on the outside looking in again so far this season.  So looks like he's gonna be 1 for 3 in playoff appearances?  Sorry, I for one don't buy into the whole "Stevie is the front office messiah" thing at all.  Anyway there are two internal candidates, Jim Nill & Ryan Martin, that should be ahead of him in that line for Kenny's job if he decides to hang it up in the next couple to few years.

#2365297 3/5 GDT : Avalanche 1 at Red Wings 2

Posted by ogreslayer on 05 March 2013 - 08:31 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Tatar with Datsyuk. 



That's a minority opinion here.


If by "here" you mean behind the Wings' bench, yes.  If by "here" you mean LGW, I think you might be mistaken.

#2365015 Trading Filppula

Posted by ogreslayer on 05 March 2013 - 12:49 PM

If this happens (Cleary re-signed and Fil out) I will personally find Holland and commit him to a mental institution


You might have to wait until he recovers from having his legs broken by the rest of LGW.

#2364854 Going to the wings game tomorrow.

Posted by ogreslayer on 04 March 2013 - 09:18 PM

While in front of Babs I'd also appreciate you asking him why Datsyuk is playing with the 4th line.


See if you get the same "No" Babs gave the press when he was asked Sunday if he'd ever consider playing Tatar & Andersson with Pavs.  I'm sure he would looooooove that.