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#2355100 2/13 GDT : St. Louis Blues 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 February 2013 - 09:08 PM

Put Cleary and QUincey in a boat, push it out into Lake Michigan and then sink it.

 

With all the Swedes in the organization, maybe go with a Viking funeral instead.




#2354711 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

 
Something tells me that you are hot for Nyquist, perhaps a bit too much so. It's like, you think he is our future, even though he is relatively unproven at the NHL level. Can't quite put my finger on what gives me that impression.  ;)
 
Samuelsson, Miller, and Bertuzzi have all proven themselves. All three are tougher than Nyquist. It's not like we have a lack of small skilled forwards on the team.


I still hold the opinion that if there would have been a full season with a full training camp & pre-season with it, the team would look significantly different. Instead of ragging on Kenny, I think he deserves credit for bringing in some known-qualities veteran players to in essense enhance the organizational depth they'll need to make it through the season.


#2354609 The Dynasty

Posted by ogreslayer on 13 February 2013 - 09:44 AM

Seems to me that if you have to name it anything (which I think is unnecessary when it comes right down to it) name it after the man that was really responsible for all of it....the Mike Ilitch Era.  




#2354435 Ryan Whitney

Posted by ogreslayer on 12 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

Before anyone else does it, I'm going to post (though sarcastically) that maybe they'll trade him to the Wings for Emmerton, Mursak, & a 5th. That said, I wouldn't be opposed to Kenny trying to make a deal for him, I just wonder what the Oil would ask.
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#2354270 Joakim Andersson Recalled

Posted by ogreslayer on 11 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

I may be in the minority here but I havent been all that impressed with Andersson. For having a big body, he doesnt use it alot. What does he bring to the tabe for this team? I know he is young but he certainly hasnt dazzled. I would prefer Eaves in the line-up

 

Small sample size but he holds a 71.4% face off percentage right now.  Certainly beats the 45.5% win percentage held by the Wings current 4th line center.




#2354235 Tomas Tatar Is Jiri Hudler 2.0

Posted by ogreslayer on 11 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

Most if not all of our euro players play in the no contact pro leagues in europe before they come over. Then they play in Toledo and/or GR. Z and dat where/are different cats than the rest of these guys. Always have been and always will be.
But back to the point, none of our guys at Tol/GR are future stars. A 40 point guy isn't terrible. It is however a terrible thing for your team when 75+ point guys are getting replaced by 40 point guys. That is the problem.


FYI, the Wings do have another forward on the roster that came straight to the Wings from overseas without going through GR after being drafted. Note "being drafted" so no, I'm not talking about Brunner. Also, 2 of the prospects mentioned below are expected to do the same thing.

The idea that the Wings leave most or all Euro prospects in Europe first before bringing them to North America is as much a myth now as the ones going around about the Wings only drafting Europeans & drafting small. If you go through the current list of European born prospects, 7 are either in or spent time in a Euro league after they were drafted (Calle Jarnkrok, Teemu Pulkkinen, Mattias Backman, Alexei Marchenko, & Rasmus Bodin who are in Europe now and Joakim Andersson & Adam Almquist who are in Det/GR) & the other 6 (Being Nyquist, Mrazek, Tatar, Jurco, Frk, & Tvrdon) were already in North America or came over immediately after being drafted.

But back to Tatar. In his 3 years of development (all in GR btw) after being drafted at the age of 18, he's averaged .69 points a game & that includes his stints in Detroit. If you take out his games with the big club & just look at his scoring pace in a "minor league", it bumps to .72 a game, which is what Datsyuk put up in his 3 years in the RSL after being drafted by the Wings. Also consider that Tatar is doing that over a longer season & against theoretically tougher competition. Zetterberg btw put up .82 a game in Sweden before coming over to Detroit.

If you really just want to compare Tatar to Hudler though, Huds put up .97 points a game in GR compared to Tatar's .72. The difference though, which is what will ultimately separate Tatar from those Hudler comparisions, is that Tatar isn't as one dimensional as Huds. He can skate, plays with energy, can forecheck effectively, isn't afraid to muck it up in the corners, and actually plays defense. He's got enough upside where I think he should be considered Tatar 1.0, not Hudler 2.0. Completely different players.


#2354018 Do We Really Need a New Stadium?

Posted by ogreslayer on 10 February 2013 - 03:20 PM

"Stadium"?  No, but the Wings could use a new arena.  Just make sure to bring the boards from the Joe though.




#2352681 2/7 GDT : Red Wings 5 at St. Louis Blues 1

Posted by ogreslayer on 07 February 2013 - 09:47 PM

Think Howie's on the bench asking where the hell this team has been the last couple of games?




#2352239 Landon Ferraro or Sheahan?

Posted by ogreslayer on 07 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

 
 
 
False.
 
Tatar is waiver exempt all season. They can recall him or send him back down whenever they'd like. His waiver exempt status runs out after this season. Same goes for Lashoff.


Might want to read that again. He said ALL BUT Tatar would have to be exposed to waivers meaning that Tatar IS waiver exempt.


#2349168 Paul Kelly: Expansion coming

Posted by ogreslayer on 30 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Why not move the Panthers and Coyotes?


Because that would make Bettman look like an idiot for expanding to those markets in the first place?


#2349117 Paul Kelly: Expansion coming

Posted by ogreslayer on 30 January 2013 - 10:45 AM

This smacks of "As owners we're OK with the money we lost in the lockout, because we'll just turn around & create two new teams and rake in that expansion fee money to make up for it". Certainly doesn't look like it's for the overall health of the league to me, just the owners' wallets.


#2348503 coach disagrees with refs - hilarious

Posted by ogreslayer on 29 January 2013 - 04:39 PM

I was afraid, between the tux & the sunglasses, that he was going to break out a little Gangnam Style on the ice.  Could break a hip doing that.




#2348472 Kindl's future...

Posted by ogreslayer on 29 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

I completely agree, and I don't mean to sound like I think the guy should be given a spot just because he's been around a while.  He needs to sink or swim, BUT I also think it's unfair to suggest (not that you did) the guy is sinking when he hasn't been given any kind of regular playing time, and when he does, he's typically utilized incorrectly.  Tonight he'll be paired with a shutdown guy, he should be able to play to his strengths (the transition game), and he'll get some time on the PP.  That's using his skill set properly.  If they do that for 3 or 4 games and he still doesn't look good, then I'd say it's fair to cut him loose. 


Definitely hear you there. Tough to give up on a guy who was your highest draft pick in a decade & still hasn't hit the age when most d-men in the league "get it" according to most experts.

In a way, what Kindl is going through is similar to Huds imo. Happy needed to be a top 6 forward to be effective, yet year after year the attitude seemed to be that he had to prove his worth on the bottom 6. To say that didn't fit his wheelhouse would be an understatement. Round peg meet square hole.


#2348447 Kindl's future...

Posted by ogreslayer on 29 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

I am fine with playing Kindl. he needs to play so we knwo if he has a future with us or not. Q should be on the bench though, not lashoff. Once White comes back healthy and no further injuries, buyout quincey. it was a mistake to resign him. Time to man up and admit it, so we all can move on.


Won't happen this season. Teams had to use their one accelerated buyout prior to the start of the season. If Q's bought out, it will have to be this summer.
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#2348391 Wings Looking For Defenseman

Posted by ogreslayer on 29 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

White needs to come back. If defense is a huge weakness, we can't afford to lose any competent defenders. On the blue line, Kronwall and White would be untouchable. Smith is very close to being untouchable, unless they can land someone his own age but better, and Lashoff should stay to develop. I think Big Rig has a NTC, so we are atuck with him. Buy Cola, Huskins and Kindl are fair game, though Huskins is proving his worth.

On the front end Flip is expendable. He's good, but we can do without him if we get something good in return.


I wouldn't call White untouchable given that he's a UFA at the end of the season. If the Wings are out of the race & a team wants to pick him up for the stretch run or playoffs, flip him for an extra pick or prospect if possible.