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wings7

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In Topic: Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

29 April 2014 - 04:16 PM

1,900,000 is far from nothing in the NHL and he's not trade-able. If he was it would have happened already. He can barely crack the Griffins right now. Wouldn't be surprised if his NHL career is done.

 

Does it count against the cap if he's in the AHL playing?


 

If he was able to be traded he would have been already. 29 other teams even passed on him for nothing when he had to clear waivers.

 

Also, I still think it has to be Franzen or Howard bought out. But what do I know about buy-outs.

 

Also, I've noticed you just follow me around on here and comment on everything I comment on in a negative/disagreeing way. That's fun for you isn't it? Did you go to any games last year? Any playoff games?


In Topic: Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

29 April 2014 - 04:04 PM

Well if your not gonna buy out franzen why on earth wouldn't you buy out tootoo. I'd say Hollands an idiot if he doesn't buy out tootoo.

 

WUT?

 

You don't buy out Tootoo because he costs nothing and is potentially tradable....


In Topic: Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

29 April 2014 - 01:34 PM

I think it's easy to look at this season, perhaps the last two or so, and feel as if Kenny dropped the ball. Personally, I hate all the vet signing he's made. I think the Quincey trade was a big mistake. I feel as if he should listen to Babcock about certain aspects of this team (there seems to be some definite friction). I think he should have trusted the kids a bit more. If Jarnkrok stays in North America, I'm sour about that trade as well. It's easy to be upset with Kenny right now.

On the flip side, it's hard to argue against the drafting this team has done since 2008 - Kenny hanging onto all those picks has paid off. The team couldn't lure Parise-Suter over, but I don't think the blame can solely lie on Kenny shoulder's for that. It's a combination of destination, coaching and desired teammates. Maybe the team overestimate the allure of playing here, and they're realizing now that they're going to have to overpay to land a big name. That's reality now.

I think this team is in a good position to make some real changes. They've got cap space, some reliable older players and a cupboard full of prospects knocking on the door. Now if in the next 2-3 seasons he pushes this youth movement, makes a trade and can sign a big free agent or two, he redeems himself in my eyes. We have several assets - prospects can be flipped and some picks can be moved for legitimate players. Kenny has cards to play with now, and I'd like to see him actually play. Dropping the ball here would definitely sway me to the, "Good-Bye Kenny" side, but I'd also like to see what he does in this (favorable) situation.

 

I agree with your thinking - I give him this offseason to be better. If we are not up with BOS and PIT by december, I'm ready to move on.

 

Give us a team now.


In Topic: Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

29 April 2014 - 12:57 PM

 

Holland's done plenty of good things. And some bad. Just like Bowman. Just like pretty much everyone who has dipped a toe in NHL waters.

 

Around these parts, I would argue he doesn't get enough credit. I tend to try and evaluate his work over larger periods of time that, IMO, have yet to expire.

 

We just disagree.

 

In the salary cap era. Holland has made a ton of bad moves.

 

Also, I'm not sure Scotty can be compared to Holland.

 

And not everyone has done some good and some bad. It's not that black and white.

 

Listening/Reading Holland's comments today instills no confidence that this team will be better next year.


In Topic: Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

29 April 2014 - 12:43 PM

 

Of course I know Bowman was af****** coach.

 

I assumed, since you were evaluating Holland as a GM, that you were comparing him to Bowman when he had assumed brief GM duties (or player personal or whatever vague position he had along with being the coach) with the Wings back in the 90s.

 

As it turns out, you were comparing Holland the GM to Bowman the coach? Is that what you were doing? Why? Why would you do that?

 

And also, it is true that the Illitches had to intervene when Bowman (who was acting as GM) had all but traded Yzerman for Yashin back in 1994 or 1995. That would have probably meant ZERO cups for us over the last 20 years. So yeah, don't tell me what to do. I'll put Bowman down if I want. He's not infallible.

 

How about you not put down Holland? How do you like that for an order?

 

I don't think Holland has done anything for the team. I think it's been other people and Holland getting more credit than he deserves. Bowman was still here with Holland even when we won in 08. Since Bowman left, everything has fallen to s***.