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In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

17 April 2015 - 12:32 PM

In a game with 7 penalties for Tampa, I wouldn't read too much into ice time.  It's going to heavily skew toward players who contribute to the pk (hence why Tatar, Nyquist, Weiss, Jurco didn't get much). 


Otherwise, I'd say we're all better off just sitting down and enjoying the ride.  There's not magical set of line combinations that's going to make us play like Tampa did last night.  It's a system thing.  If we're going to win this series, we're going to win it on the back of our goalie, huge individual efforts by our stars, and flukey garbage goals.  And that's fine.  New Jersey did it successfully.  Babcock has done it successfully in the past.  Just don't start thinking that we're going to dominate teams in the offensive zone.  We aren't. 


Look at Babcock's successful seasons in the past.  They've all had the same characteristics.  Giguere played out of his mind to get to the finals and Osgood played out of his mind to get to the finals.  In Anaheim's case they came up short because they had no offense (they got shut out in three of the four games they lost in the finals), while in Detroit's case they had Dats, Z, and Franzen all in their primes, and all on fire, at the right time. 


To win, we need Peter Mrazek to play INSANE, and two or three offensive players to carry the load.  We're not going to win this with dominating puck possession.  It's not in the game plan. 

Interesting thinking. I dig this post. 


Strong points. 

In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

17 April 2015 - 12:30 PM

The idea that we should say "No one played good at forward" does not excuse Tatar and Nyquist…That's crazy.

In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

17 April 2015 - 12:19 PM




Regular Season average even strength min/game: 

Tatar: 13:43

Nyquist: 13:37


First game of the playoffs:

Tatar: 12:59

Nyquist: 11:07


It's really not as big a deal as you're making it out to be...


Helm also played the most of any forward (20min) and Glendening played 18min.


It was pretty clear the minutes for our forwards were heavily influenced by match-ups.


So you thought Tatar and Nyquist looked good. They just didn't play because of match ups? 

In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

17 April 2015 - 11:51 AM

Ahh yes. Because benching our 2 leading goal scorers after one game of the playoffs for not scoring makes a ton of sense. Also, they didn't play a lot on the third because we were short handed for most of it.

They have been terrible for over a month now. Agree or disagree?

And no, that's not why. Go look at everyone's ice time. Jurko got about as many minutes in THE GAME as them. Same with Weiss. Don't kid yourself. Babcock chose not to play them.

Honestly the thought about playing cleary crossed my mind last night. You know he's itching to play and might be good for a few hits. At this point I'd take him over jurco. I don't even know how jurco is still on the team. I could see smith or kindl being effective against the hard forechecking. Zids was terrible last night. Idk if it was jitters or what but if he keeps it up id take kindl over him

Jurko's screen on Datsyuk's second goal was great. Just saying

In Topic: Game Two - Honest Discussion

17 April 2015 - 11:49 AM

I get what you're saying on the Tatar/Nyquist thing, they both were useless last year versus Boston and were invisible yet again last night. It's frustrating because everyone here knows how good they can be. But still I wouldn't sit them when the alternative is Cleary...


As for Marchenko, I thought he looked fine. He didn't make any Smith level gaffes and that is OK by me.

He didn't. He made a couple mistakes, one I think lead to a great scoring chance, but don't quote me on that. 


He played fine. Maybe you're right. Leave the winning team as is.


But I think we agree, that formula from last night is not going to win us a series.