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#2243432 Marchand Suspended 5 games

Posted by Rufio on 09 January 2012 - 06:37 AM

Before anyone else even chimes in with the thought too - Marchand didn't NEED to do this to protect himself, but if Salo wasn't so determined in creaming him, he could have moved or gotten low as well... He only got "clipped" because he was trying and determined to make a high hit...

Marchand's not a bad guy, but he saw the hit coming and a real man braces himself and gives it right back. Clipping is taking the easy way out. Anyone can do that. There's nothing impressive or brave or admirable about what Marchand did. He just took the easiest option.

Ducking down and clipping when an opponent comes in for a legal body-check is two things:
- Cowardly
- Dangerous

I'm sure Brad regrets this decision. He's got too much respect for the game to repeat this crap.

#2156000 Who Does Zetterberg Play With If He Comes Back?

Posted by Rufio on 21 April 2011 - 05:53 PM

What about Graper



You make some very solid points.

#2062554 Saw Sheahan play tonight

Posted by Rufio on 13 November 2010 - 04:07 PM

Callahan won't be a major point producer in the NHL, if he makes it. Signs are good, but he's got a long road ahead still.

Ferraro is bombing out offensively again this season, even with a new team. HTD won't ever be in Detroit. Sheahan a good shot to be a 60 point NHL player? On what evidence?

Why include Jensen? He's a defenceman, and if we're talking defenceman, no mention of Smith?

I love how this guy thinks he's the final word on prospect analysis because he frequents hockeysfuture.com.

#2019739 Antti Niemi files for arbitration

Posted by Rufio on 27 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

If i recall correctly you cannot trade a player for a period of one year after they go through arbitration. Chicago either accepts the arbitrators contract and Niemi is unmovable for 1 year or they decline it and Niemi becomes a UFA.

Where did you hear this?? I've never heard of anything like this. See below. This guy knows. Niemi can absolutely be traded.

Arbitration is just a way of settling contract disputes for RFA's. It's not a special type of contract. A player whose contract was agreed to after arbitration is no different to any other player whose contract was not. Arbitration just gives the two sides a number.

So unless they agree to a contract with a NTC, yes they can trade him.

The only thing I can think of that may have confused you is offer sheets. A player signed on a matched offer sheet can't be traded for a year I think.

#2017663 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by Rufio on 21 July 2010 - 11:00 AM

He's not worth waiting for. Let some other team have him, and we'll get down to business.

We get it. You don't want Modano. This thread is littering with you saying it. But this post doesn't even make sense.

#2015854 Philadelphia's cap issues

Posted by Rufio on 16 July 2010 - 12:45 PM

I meant its not really about cap space because it isn't going to clear a whole bunch but its a start.

Second, not trading Powe would be dumb. Theyre just going to give their RFA away without recieving some kind of compensation? What youre suggesting is that trading an extra bottom 6er or 2 isn't goign to help clear any cap space, which it will. Trading one of those guys could be the difference i them being over the cap or under it.

Would it be better to trade someone with a 4 mil contract to clear space? yes

Would trading a couple bottom 6ers and clear a million still be a good way to clear some space? For sure. as a wings fan and the tight cap we've had the last few years you should know a million dollars can be huge when calling up for injuries.

I agree that they should probably move a few of their bottom 6 players. But once they move Gagne, they won't need to if they don't want. This thread is about Philly's cap issues. I thought that's what we were discussing. I have no idea how you were able to infer that trading players with lower salaries does not clear cap space -- particularly after I acknowledged it has in the past with Leino and Detroit.

All this notwithstanding, this isn't even really an argument or discussion anymore. We both know where we stand. You were just a little clumsy about it.

#2015848 Philadelphia's cap issues

Posted by Rufio on 16 July 2010 - 12:30 PM

Yeah and when you have 3 too many bottom 6 players and move 2 of them, youre clearing cap space. Thats how math works. Team pay roll - 2 players salary = cleared cap space.

Yeah theyre gonna trade Gagne but you can also clear space by getting rid of bottom 6ers if you have 3 too many. We traded Leino to make cap space for Mule but I guess by your logic we should've traded Datsyuk so Mule could come back

Not every player is perfect but I really can't think of any other time he has really been a diver. for the most part he just plays with an edge and will fight almost anyone and pisses everyone off. He's like a prime Maltby that fights.

Firstly, you said it wasn't about clearing space. No you're contradicting yourself.

Second, my logic was to clear enough space to be under the cap. So by my logic trading Leino makes sense. The difference between Leino and Powe, is Leino had a cap hit for Detroit. He was actually under contract. Is there something wrong with the suggestion that trading someone with an actual cap hit would be better for their cap woes than someone who has no cap hit?

#2015839 Philadelphia's cap issues

Posted by Rufio on 16 July 2010 - 12:12 PM

Oh I didn't realize he was an RFA, and it still wouldn't surprise me to see him either not signed or his rights traded since he's an RFA. Its not so much about clearing cap space as it is getting rid of an unnecessary amount of bottom 6 players.

No. When you're $2.5m over the cap, it is about clearing space. I would've thought that part would be pretty obvious.

#2015827 Philadelphia's cap issues

Posted by Rufio on 16 July 2010 - 11:55 AM

They have a s*** load of forwards. I can't see them not trading someone moving forward. Maybe Darrel Powe is the one traded

How is trading a player they haven't even re-signed gonna solve their problem of being $2.5m over the cap?

#1988615 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 23 May 2010 - 07:07 PM


People gave you a lot of s*** in this thread, but at the end of the day you were right. :)

Heatley was the same way. They both choked in the clutch. When your team goes down, you don't want the star players to leave anything on the ice.

Lol, a 4-2 loss changes everything.

BTW, it's game, set, match.

#1987866 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 21 May 2010 - 10:47 AM

So far, yes, Ovechkin has choked, because he has not come through when it mattered - I don't know why you can't grasp this - this isn't JUST about points, it's about the way you lead your team and the effort in the moments that it matters

and I know you're trying to be cute, but cut it - you know damn well that because one guys lifts his game and helps his team win, that doesn't "make every other player a choke"

Your best players need to be your best players, in the times it matters the most. period. I don't know how much clearer I can put that...

Okay, I can accept that you personally have ridiculous standards.

FWIW, Thornton has been their best player so that last statement is moot.

#1987856 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 21 May 2010 - 10:30 AM

thank you!

Right. So Zetterberg's not a choke because he was the best player for a Cup-winner.

This is an honest question, because I'm trying to understand your logic. Does this mean that every other Red Wing player was a choke in your view?


Is it just every player that didn't win the Cup a choke? Is Ovechkin a choker? Sure, he lead his team with 5 goals and 5 assists, and carried his team, but not to victory. His teammates were awful, but because he didn't carry his team when it mattered, he's a choker, right?

#1987702 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 20 May 2010 - 06:16 PM

Oh, that guy who scored the only goals for San Jose last game? Yeah, you can blame it on him. Passion doesn't win cups, or half of this board would have rings.

troll ftl.

Come on, seriously?

Did anyone watch the game? The first one was a beautiful pass from Thornton, and the second was a tap-in the crease. The guy was in the right spots, which is great, but he played soft. Again, I actually made a perfect example of how he cost his team in one instance.

#1987668 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 20 May 2010 - 03:46 PM

Best player UNTIL NOW - it's all moot and useless if you can't win the big prize... until he proves otherwise, he will be considered a choke...

Really? Pavel and Zetterberg didn't carry their team to a Stanley Cup in 08?!?
GP: 22 G:13 A:14 P:27 +16

GP: 22 G:10 A:13 P:23 +13

Giguere didn't carry his team to a SCF against NJ when he won the Conn Smythe and they only lost because they couldn't score (keep in mind, this argument also doesn't REALLY apply to goalies, as they cannot score the goals, even though he backs up my argument)

and Pronger never led his team to a cup... what was it Anaheim did in 07?
07 SC Playoffs:
GP: 19 G:3 A:12 P:15 +10

even ****** Crosby last year did it...

you, if anything, helped prove my point... not yours....

But I thought a player had to 'carry his team'. Pronger, Crosby, Giguere and Datsyuk were all outshone by teammates when they won their Cups. Are they chokers?

What has Thornton done in these playoffs to warrant this claim he has underachieved?

I just think that being your team's best player whilst not replicating Messier is not underachieving. That's just me.

#1987607 Good old Regular Season Joe

Posted by Rufio on 20 May 2010 - 01:40 PM

You're over simplifying my words, take over a game, does not mean single-handedly win a game - it means be an impact player every shift and affect the outcome of the game.

Hockey is a team game and you don't even win ONE game, let alone a Stanley Cup with one player or a line, but the true greats will put a team on their back and carry them to victory when needed (Orr, Gretzky, Howe, Yzerman, Messier, etc....)


I certainly wouldn't put Joe Thornton in with the likes of Yzerman, Messier, Orr, Gretzky or Howe, but I hardly think that not being able to replicate the past performances of the greatest champions this sport has ever seen makes him a choker. It's not one or the other.

Thornton has been pathetic in the past. The last two rounds he has not. Despite falling short of Gretzky-esque domination, it's pretty clear he's been at very least one of their best, if not IMO their best player. I just think this thread is totally unwarranted, his stats are misleading.

BTW did anyone see the first Hawks goal in G2? See how easily Marleau was beaten on the breakaway attempt? He gave up on the play, went to the bench and they score. -1 for Joe, no impact on Marleau. Stats aren't everything! Marleau had no heart, his team paid.