St. Michael (the Red Wing)

I need to do some prayers for these people and their families. Very tragic and just one of the worst NHL and hockey summers ever so sad.....

Reporting one survivor? Who?

2nd the no.

That fight was soooo awesome.

He's always been difficult to knock off the puck. As for his weight, he deliberately lost upper-body muscle in the 2010 offseason.

Maybe so but the season before he deliberately "bulked up". I think his back problems are the issue. I honestly think Zetterberg was amazing when he used to have that first quick step. He's lost that.

Hahah at the post above. I'd keep Dats as well. Hank's level of play has gone down since we won the Cup last. It's like some games he shows up and some he doesn't. Having said that he has been kinda reconstructing his game I think a bit

Really? Complaining about not having a girlfriend and saying I'm leaving to play in the KHL, then coming back. To me that's a degree of drama.

I think it was Bab's that wanted the top 6 forward and Holland thought we were fine up front and in need of defence, but i could be wrong.  I know I want a top 6 forward though that's for sure.   I also want to see and will route for Emmerton to do well as it's nice to see inside development paying off...But back on topic, how many invites are one team allowed to give?  Because unless they have been talking the talks with someone under the radar and keeping there fingers crossed, I don't see it happening.

I agree with you on the first part. But what I meant on my part and maybe I should have been more exact is I don't see a trade happening with us until probably the trade deadline or thereabouts somewhere. I'm not sure either who can be invited to camp either. I'm pretty sure our roster is set for the most part (for now).

Anyone else pumped about Klinsmann being our new USA head coach? I know I am. Should have got him awhile ago tbh.  

I wish him the best

Babs seems real uptight and tbh I think that's what coaches need to be at especially at the NHL level. Some medium between being an ass and being to easy going. I think Babs is a solid coach and I think it's a plus that some players don't/or didn't like playing for him. Coaches need to be somewhat strict to keep players in line. I think Babs does a solid job at this.

On another note this should be moved to the rumor mill section.

No thanks on him another player over the age of 35 that is on the downside. Big NO.

I'm glad he turned it down as well. I personally like White better too and a lot younger as well.  

Yeah, I get it.... and I think saying '20 goals' or '50-60 points' as you said, would be a better bar to set.  I guess the KHL thing didn't really bother me as much as it did some others.  Anyway, I'm trying to look at it more positively.  Let's face it, Hudler is probably going to be on this roster next season.  There IS reason to believe that he could return to 07-08 form this coming year and score your 20 goals and 50-60 points.  As I said, no KHL adjustment period, etc.  If he does that, then great - everyone will be happy to be surpised (since it seems that everyone is of the mind that he will go downhill from last year instead of up, considering all of the negative Hudler talk).  If he doesn't... well, it's only for one more year at the $2.875 million.  Was I disappointed in his play last year?  Definitely.  But, this switching back and forth from NHL to KHL is a relatively new deal.  I feel like that was a huge part of the reason for his dropoff.  He wasn't any smaller or weaker in 07-08 when everyone was happy with his production.  I believe that he deserves the chance to rebound to that form this season, and that he deserves our support in attempting to do so.

I agree with you 100%. You know if somehow he does turn it around maybe Kenny might re-sign him who knows? But also if this upcoming season he performs like you said like the 07-08 Hudler, his trade value will go up and things could get interesting. I just don't think Hudler fits on our team anymore but anyone wearing the Winged Wheel has my support 100%, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the best from Huds this up-coming season.

Wow seems like a lot of people are really down on Commodore.

He had a bad season people where he got waived and now all of a sudden noone thinks he is even capable of staying out of the pressbox?

The guy still played almost 20 mins a night the last few years when he was in the lineup, almost 3 minutes a night short handed, and is much better offensively than Salei.

Sure Commodore isnt super fast but hes just as good of a skater as Salei, is used to playing 19 minutes a night compared to Saleis 16, plays more pk time and is a big, mean player who can hit hard and will fight light heavyweights.

He is basically salei with more offense and a much bigger mean streak. Just bec ause he tried to take a wings player head off and fell into the bench doesnt mean hes a god awful player. At least he has that mean streak to go and try to light a guy up like that.

Not to mention prior to going to CBJ, Commodore was one of the better stay at home types in the league playing a big part in 2 cup runs for Carolina and Calgary. If theres a team that can help him find that form again, its Detroit. Look what they did with Lilja who was a similar guy, who was even worse than Commy when he came to Detroit.

People need to give him a  chance instead of watching him fly into the bench on one youtube video to decide hes a bum.

When he does this to tools like avery everyone will sing a different tune..



or stiicks up for the goalie like this



Not to mention guys liek Ericcson and abdelkader will play tougher because they know a 6'5 Canadian mean SOB will be backing them up

Well said. I like this and I'm hoping Commy finds his top hockey form!  

Ultimately, this Red Wing team is no better than last year.  It has actually regressed with the loss of Rafalski...

Well I think that's true to a certain extent BUT

Helm, Abs, and Ericsson are expected to be a lot better next season. I'm pipe dreaming maybe on this but Helm I think can get somewhere around 40 points next season he had 32 this last season. Abs had 19 points last season which I believe he can get somewhere between 20-30 next season. Ericsson had 15 points last season. lol. I think he can do a whole lot better as I think a lot of people would say the same. I don't think he's capable of putting up 50 points but somewhere over 20-30 points if not more I think is realistic for Ericsson.

But on a whole yeah our team is going to get bounced by the Sharks again this upcoming season I reckon. We need to get rid of Huds and find someone who can actually produce to replace him. Looking forward on seeing Mursak and Emmerton in the lineup but that's merely going to be eneryg based. So yeah I think things are the same we'll see. Always expect the unexpected I suppose