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#2517240 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by rking72 on 26 April 2014 - 05:21 PM

The one positive I take away from this series is that I hope Holland sees are far the Wings are really away from being Cup contenders. 

 

As a side rant, I said it at the time and I will say it again....Suter and Parise were worth paying long term big time money to. Especially if you had to pay Parise to get Suter.  Depth is much easier to find than elite players.  Don't be afraid to sign top end guys because you are afraid of losing Ericssons or players of that level.




#2428495 Abdelkader Hypothetical

Posted by kipwinger on 07 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

I disagree with you.

Abby has a strong "ramp up" history, meaning he's worked his way up the ladder through experience and increased production, everywhere he has played. Juniors, College, AHL. If the past predicates the future, we should see Abby start to put up dlgood numbers soon. Im not saying he's going to be an all star. Im saying he will put up 50-60 pts if he plays with Z and Dats on the top line and PP.

 

In the 2008 and 2009 seasons, with Datsyuk and Zetterberg in their primes and having their best career offensive seasons, Holmstrom never had 50 pts.  Contrary to what some believe, neither Datsyuk nor Zetterberg are the same players they were then.  Those guys will be good this year, but they aren't going to squeeze blood from a stone.  I'd love it if you're right, but Abby has not shown the ability to produce even as consistently as Miller at the NHL level, and D and Z aren't at an age where they can still make anyone around them look that good.  Hell Franzen has consistently played on Datsyuk's wing for a couple years now and only gets 50-60 pts.  And whether you like him or not, Franzen is about 2,000,000 times the offensive player that Abby is. 

 

Playing with Datsyuk or Zetterberg is no longer a way to get more out of less.  At their age we should be acquiring complimentary pieces to help keep their numbers up, not the other way around.  I would have loved a shooting winger for Datsyuk, and to see Zetterberg on Weiss' wing.  In my opinion that would be a better dynamic than once again asking those two to play their game and half of everybody else's as well. 




#2378947 An interesting point about our apparent deadline strategy

Posted by DetroitRedWings1993 on 02 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

 
It makes no sense that Franzen gets the criticism he does. He isn't perfect, but he's a good deal for what he's paid.


He has no heart. He floats through games and is maddeningly inconsistent. He plays soft and acts like a man half his size. There's so much he could be with his size and skill...but just isn't. And at this point, never will be.


#2378826 An interesting point about our apparent deadline strategy

Posted by SuperCalaFilppulastic! on 02 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

I mostly agree. This is a different era of managing a team and Holland hasn't fully adapted. It is getting harder and harder to steal quality players from someone else and if you don't draft exceptionally well - then you have to overpay for a quality FA or give up some middle-of-the-road prospects and picks to take a chance on a proven commodity (even short term).

 

Well, he refuses to overpay for a quality player in FA, but certainly loves to fatten up the contracts of role players. For example, he wouldn't sign Jagr or Semin to expensive 1 year deals - but will give useless inflated contracts to injury prone and role players like Samuelsson and Colaiacovo looking for "value" that end up making roughly the same amount as one "star" player. Why? Because Cleary flourished here on a chance.

 

It would make much more sense to tie up some short term money in a star player and have to cut dead weight later if there are cap problems and let your coveted young prospects (that he refuses to trade) get some playing time. Instead he loses out on quality players, pays a ton for mediocre players, lets prospects overripe in the minors instead of gain NHL tangible value, and wastes the remaining years of our star players.... waiting... for something miraculous to happen. In the end he just says, "Aw shucks, we kicked some tires, but apparently you have to actually be willing to give something up".

 

Truthfully, injuries have been the best GM we've had this season. It forced out the useless older players and gave our prospects time to shine. Although, thats the good and bad of it because Holland is like Golem and now Tatar, Nyquist, Andersson, and Lashoff have become the preciousssssss Wings property- which he would never let any go in order to upgrade NOW.

 

And let's go to the other extreme. Since he's not willing to wheel and deal, spend some money on FA, or let go of old players - then at least start a true rebuild and get some draft picks with our soon to be UFAs or redundant players.

 

You won't win in this league by being middle of the road.

 

PS - save the Hossa talk because we all know that Holland literally did NOTHING to make that happen.

 

/rant




#2367387 3/10 GDT : Blue Jackets 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 10 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

This team is nothing without Samuelsson and Colaicovo.  




#2367696 Brunner to go with Tootoo and Tatar?

Posted by LeftWinger on 10 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

...wait, I though Datsyuk was already centering the 4th line...