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#2500277 Looking for a picture of the retired numbers w St. Nick's #5

Posted by deadmeat on 23 March 2014 - 09:55 PM

I see you already have one in your sig. but if you need it still here is one my cousin took at tonight's game..

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#2493347 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Dabura on 09 March 2014 - 12:20 AM

Holland's responsibility is to keep Detroit in the hunt. He's not going to stand pat and throw in the season towel just so we can horde B caliber prospects.


Jarnkrok is not "B caliber." Again, Can we stop acting like he's a nobody? He was arguably our best prospect, and we have a deep pool.


I agree with the rest, though.


Well, actually, you may be painting Holland as a wee bit more proactive and aggressive and on-top-of-things than he really is/was. It took losing Helm to concussion protocol - on top of major setbacks to Weiss and Datsyuk (on top of Zetterberg's 12-year rehab) - for him to do something. It's possible we don't lose Jarnkrok if Holland doesn't wait until the last minute. Poile knew he was dealing with a very desperate man.


I think we can all agree that trading is not one of Ken Holland's areas of expertise.

#2493204 Mark Fayne

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 March 2014 - 03:06 PM


Yeah, but I think Doughty plays better when paired with a solid defensive type, like Vlasic in the Olympics. Even Kronwall makes mistakes, but I still think he's a bit more consistent than Doughty.


I wouldn't want Matt Greene though. He's a 3rd pairing guy and would get caught up in a glut of defenseman here (Smith, Kindl, Lashoff, Almquist, etc.) He's more solid defensively than any of our kids, but doesn't have enough upside to stay in the lineup IMO.


We need a true top 4 type to join Kronwall, Ericsson, and DeKeyser. Basically we need D-man much better than Quincey to take his spot. That should be the main priority as I think all the kids will essentially fight for the bottom 2 spots.


I agree about Doughty.  When paired with a more defensive guy he's able to jump into plays and is a more dynamic player.  Often when his production dips it's because he's without someone like Willie Mitchell to be paired with, so he has to play more conservatively. 


All good points regarding Greene. I'm probably biased because I've always liked the way he plays.  He's an old school "ram you facefirst into the glass over and over as you hold the puck along the boards" kind of player.    The Wings could use more of that.  Though Lashoff could potentially be a Matt Greene type player anyway.  I keep forgetting he's only 23.  


A more consistent Quincey-like player would make a big difference.  Kindl is a plug at this point who only warrants icetime if there's injuries.  Unfortunately he's a plug they signed until 2017, but I wish they'd cut bait with the guy and give his icetime to players that still have some hope of developing (Smith, Lashoff, Almquist).

#2493134 UFA/RFA Re-Signing, What Does Everyone Get?

Posted by Nev on 08 March 2014 - 10:30 AM

You guys are ridiculously undervaluing Tatar and DD.  Someone can offer sheet them $3.3M AAV and only have to give up a 2nd in compensation.

#2492810 Mark Fayne

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 07 March 2014 - 09:15 PM

But without the high.


Kyle Quincey--all of the brain cell death, none of the satisfaction!

#2491247 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Dabura on 05 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

Look, I'm happy that we got Legwand. But, IMHO, this whole thing with Jarnkrok smells...



Regarding Jarnkrok reportedly thinking of heading back to Sweden after this season, it was news to Wings Asst GM Ryan Martin.


Jarnkrok projects as a top-six center, and a good one. He's struggled, but hey, first-year NA pros are allowed to struggle. Andersson isn't going to be a top-six center, Sheahan will probably settle in as a good third-line center, and Helm is a third-line center. None of the centers in Grand Rapids project as top-sixers. Speaking of Sheahan, remember when he was supposed to be a career fourth-liner in the NHL? Remember when the DUI incident made us really wonder if he'd pan out? Remember when Tatar threatened to bolt for the KHL?



#2491182 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 05 March 2014 - 06:28 PM

And if he busts and cant compete at the NHL level then what?? The Wings are still trying to win right now. This fan base would not accept anything else so they went with a proven commodity that can help them now as opposed to a commodity that only has a chance of winning. Legwand is a better hockey player right now than Jarnkrok. When your trying to win now which do you think helps the most? Your putting Jarnkrok on a pedestal that he hasnt earned yet.

Legwand is a mid 30s 3rd liner ufa ....you trade jarnkrok type prospects in blockbuster deals not in legwand type deals .... Habs gave up less than us and got a 30+ goal guy

#2491093 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by GoWings1905 on 05 March 2014 - 05:42 PM

Horrendous. Kenny has outdone the Kyle Quincey debacle somehow. I said it in numerous threads leading up to the deadline, but for once kicking tires and standing pat would have been prudent. Realistically, the Red Wings were at best going to sneak into the playoffs once Z was declared out for the regular season. Then you throw in Pav being gone now, Weiss having a setback and Helm injured again. You just don't overcome those losses and even if you do, is this group a real contender anyways? 


Nothing against Legwand, but what happened to no rentals? If Holland was looking for 'hockey deals' and willing to overpay with prospects and picks, then he should have actually acquired an impact player like Kesler or Ehrhoff. Legwand is an upgrade over Andersson logging first line minutes, but what's the goal here? Either embrace trying to improve fully or stick with what you have and play the season out. 


I just don't understand what Holland's intended direction is for the organization since Nick retired. The Red Wings are stuck in transitional years. Being mediocre is the worst spot to be, especially when it appears your philosophy is to rely more on drafting well. 


Panic move and went against everything Holland preached leading up to the deadline. He has been absolutely atrocious since Nick left with personnel decisions. 

#2491057 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Ekmanc on 05 March 2014 - 05:27 PM

As someone who has followed both Collberg and Järnkrok in the SHL as it's now called I can comfortably say that Järnkrok was a much better player in that league.


Järnkrok has a SHL championship as well.

#2490958 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by achildr1 on 05 March 2014 - 04:57 PM

Wow, really?  I think Sheahan is much better to be honest.  Then we have guys that haven't even made it to the AHL to consider that have a much better upside than him.

This is so short sighted. Actually Jarnkrok is out performing Sheahans rookie AHL year and he actually has an excuse (moving from the big ice) to have a rough transition. Just because Sheahan is on the big club doesnt mean he's better. Sheahan is likely a third line player long term. If were lucky, he's somewhere between Abby and Mule. Jarnkrok has always been billed as a poor mans Zetterberg and has been playing against men since he was 17.

#2490687 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DannyD on 05 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

If it is in fact Jarnkrok I would've rather brought him up and played him in Detroit than trade for Legwand.

#2490683 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 05 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

The Wings haven't released official details yet, the Nashville beat guys are speculating. Kenny wouldn't trade our only high end C in our system for a rental, at a deadline where the price for players was so low. But if he did, he needs to retire NOW

#2490111 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by dat's sick on 05 March 2014 - 12:39 PM

The Mike Weaver for a 5th and the Hemsky for a 3rd and 5th could have made this team MUCH better than we are now... Holland is smooching the pooch today. 

If you really think so you know very little about hockey. Not only could those 3rd and 5ths turn into players like Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist, Oullet, Sproul etc. , but Weaver and Hemsky would not fill any need we have on the team right now. 

#2489921 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 05 March 2014 - 07:35 AM

Howard has 13 wins in March. It hasn't been completely his fault, and he's battled injuries. But that just isn't good enough, especially when you factor in his numbers. Really, if not for Gus, we'd be completely out of the race. With so many guys out of the line-up, Howard needs to be good every night. And his top pair (Kronwall-Ericsson) can't have albatross games out of the blue, points are too important.

#2489333 Luongo to Panthers

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 March 2014 - 05:01 PM

Roberto Luongo confirms he has been traded to Florida. Signing papers right now. #Tradecentre

14 years after they traded for him the first time around.


Is there an application I can fill out to become Vancouver's next GM?


If you can complete a basic job application you may very well be overqualified.