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#2493328 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 08 March 2014 - 10:26 PM

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I fully support a conservative trading philosophy. But lately, it's not like we're holding out for very good trades.

 

Giving up a first round pick was overpayment for Quincey even before he played a single awful game for us. And I still think Poile strongarmed Holland for Jarnkrok; we probably could have gotten away with less since Nashville didn't want to lose Legwand for nothing and he had a NTC.




#2493178 Mark Fayne

Posted by Nevermind on 08 March 2014 - 01:54 PM

 

Doughty is as good or better than Kronwall defensively. 

 

 

As for Dmen to bring in, I'd be interested in Matt Greene.  Big physical defensive defenseman who's not afraid to drop the gloves when necessary, right handed, Michigan guy.  His contract is up this season.  He's been a healthy scratch a few times under Sutter so he may have soured on that relationship a bit.  

 

He had concussion problems in January though and I think an upper body injury, so I'm not totally sure where his health is at right now.   He's also pretty slow, which will only get worse with age.  But if he can be had for a decent price it could help bring some experience to the blueline. 

 

Yeah, but I think Doughty plays better when paired with a solid defensive type, like Vlasic in the Olympics. Even Kronwall makes mistakes, but I still think he's a bit more consistent than Doughty.

 

I wouldn't want Matt Greene though. He's a 3rd pairing guy and would get caught up in a glut of defenseman here (Smith, Kindl, Lashoff, Almquist, etc.) He's more solid defensively than any of our kids, but doesn't have enough upside to stay in the lineup IMO.

 

We need a true top 4 type to join Kronwall, Ericsson, and DeKeyser. Basically we need D-man much better than Quincey to take his spot. That should be the main priority as I think all the kids will essentially fight for the bottom 2 spots.




#2493138 Mark Fayne

Posted by Nevermind on 08 March 2014 - 10:36 AM

 

Since you asked.....

Hjalmersson--No

Keith--Yes

Seabrook--No, not offensively

Suter--Yes

Weber--Yes

Shattinkirk--No

Pietrangelo--Yes

Fowler?--Not yet

Doughty--Yes, but not defensively

OEL--Not yet

Yandle?--No, not defensively

J Johnson--No, no hockey sense at all

McDonagh--Comparable

Girardi--No, not offensively

martin?--No, not offensively

Orpik--Hell no

Letang-pre stroke--No, fourth forward

Carlsson--Not yet

Chara--Yes

Subban--Yes, but not defensively

karlsson--Yes, but not defensively

Hedman--No

Gudas--No way hahahahahah

Phanenf--No, ask a Leafs fan

 

But yes, that is 24 guys of the top-(ok it took me 5 mins) that are feel are better than Kronwall.

 

Different doesn't necessarily mean better.




#2492804 Mark Fayne

Posted by Nevermind on 07 March 2014 - 09:12 PM

Playing with Quincey--the hockey equivalent of huffing paint.


But without the high.


#2491738 Red Wings have Recalled Pulkkinen from Grand Rapids

Posted by Nevermind on 06 March 2014 - 03:13 PM

Great news. I'm assuming he takes Bertuzzi's spot.

 

I'm happy with Legwand, but I really would have liked to seen Jarnkrok with the big club at least once or twice before trading him away.




#2491251 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 07:21 PM

Guess there's no such thing are free agency either, the Wings are doomed without a young center.


Elite players don't make it to free agency anymore. And if they do, it's a Parise/Suter bidding war.

Young, defensively sound, top 6 centers don't grow on trees.


#2491083 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 05:38 PM

Helene St. James @HeleneStJames 4m

#RedWings prospect C Calle Jarnkrok (to NSH) expendable because behind Sheahan, Andersson. Way down depth chart

 

Bulls***. Any scout would say that Jarnkrok has much more upside than Andersson.




#2490821 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 04:20 PM

Wow, so much anger of a prospect.  

 

Yeah, possibly our best prospect in the entire organization.




#2490629 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 03:41 PM

I really doubt Jarnkrok is the prospect. If he is, Holland should be fired.




#2490076 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 12:26 PM

Holland, we like our 3rd and 5th rd picks

 

Hemsky's not the right player for us anyways. Soft and extremely inconsistent.




#2489255 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Nevermind on 04 March 2014 - 04:09 PM

I would have made that trade for MacDonald. It's similar to what we gave for Brad Stuart (albeit in a contending year).

Later we could've re-signed McDonald with Quincey's money.


#2489070 Canadians may be shopping Subban...

Posted by Nevermind on 04 March 2014 - 11:38 AM

A lot of other teams would easily offer more than that for him in a trade. And we'd have to re-sign him for at least $6-7 million per.

 

While Subban's an extremely talented player, there are too many question marks about his attitude and defensive zone coverage.




#2488913 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Nevermind on 03 March 2014 - 07:26 PM

Here's a name I haven't heard mentioned:  Mark Giordano. Even though he's Calgary's captain, I'm sure he'd be available for the right price--given their rebuild.

 

Giordano's gritty, blocks shots, and still generates offense (9-20-29 in 42 games so far this year). One of the most underrated players in the league, IMO. Best of all, he's signed for a $4 million cap hit the next two years.

 

Thoughts? This top 4 does look a thousand times better without Quincey in it...

 

Kronwall--Ericsson

Giordano--DeKeyser




#2488673 Trade Deadline Prediction Time

Posted by Nevermind on 02 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

No. But we'll definitely kick some tires.




#2488321 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Nevermind on 01 March 2014 - 03:15 PM

What part of hockey is Kesler at all superior to Z?


Diving and flopping.