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#2301026 Babcock and Holland want to keep Homer.

Posted by Nevermind on 13 May 2012 - 03:11 PM

3rd - Bertuzzi-Helm-Cleary
4th - Prust-Gaustad-Eaves/Nyquist

That's where our bottom 6 needs to be. Now, I like Holmer as much as the next guy, but....

Close to what I would want.

I would rather sign Konopka over Gaustad, though. Konopka's also very good on faceoffs (maybe even a bit better). And while he's 5 inches shorter, he's still more physical and can keep the flies off better.

Most importantly, Konopka should be much cheaper and cost under $1.5M. I think Gaustad's been horribly overrated lately and is bound to be overpaid this summer.

#2296352 We Need to Get Tougher to Play Against

Posted by Nevermind on 23 April 2012 - 05:28 PM



#2294990 Parise, Suter AND Semin

Posted by Nevermind on 21 April 2012 - 01:57 AM

1) You want Semin on this team?
2) AND you want to pay him $7 million.


That lineup is even less gritty than this season's. Those 3rd and 4th lines need to be dramatically restructured.

Keep Cleary. His health should be much better next season. And he was one of our better players early on in the series.

Worse of all, you don't want Helm back? Why on earth would you want to let Helm go?

#2294272 WCQF Game 5 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Predators 2

Posted by Nevermind on 20 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

Is it an omen of good things to come that the DJ for the prom being held in the courtyard at my hotel just outaide my window is CRANKING Don't Stop Believing right now?

Let's Go Wings!

I would hope so. Unfortunately, it's probably more telling of a horribly generic prom though.

#2292958 Is Babcock watching the same game?

Posted by Nevermind on 19 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

Coach Mike Babcock does not subscribe to the theory that his team isn't getting on the inside, that most of its shots are coming from the perimeter. "I hear (team broadcaster) Mickey Redmond say, 'They're keeping them on the outside.' So the good thing about that is that I watched the game, and watched it on the computer and then 'NHL On the Fly' played it again,'' Babcock said. "So I watched it three times to see if that's the truth, to see if we're never getting to the net, we're never getting on the inside, and all I can do is go off what I see and I don't think that's the truth.''

Full article

Now, I've only watched the game once, but I'm pretty sure a lot of our shots were indeed from the perimeter. And as far I'm concerned, we did have an incredibly tough time getting to the middle of the ice.

Is anyone else puzzled by why Babcock can't see this? Or isn't willing to admit it? I'm no coach, but getting to the inside would be one of my main areas of concern for Game 5.

#2292801 Hometown discount for Nick next year?

Posted by Nevermind on 19 April 2012 - 01:31 PM

The Detroit Red Wings aren't ever going to let Nick walk. :lol:

I really hope Nick comes back and is able to regain his early-season form. He's earned the right to keep his salary if he wants to play another season. But, I think he definitely has to understand that a sizeable paycut would really help the team out--and give him the best chance for a Cup.

#2291960 How do we fix this?

Posted by Nevermind on 18 April 2012 - 01:17 AM

A lot of teams want Parise and Suter, unfortunately.

Parise did say his favorite player to watch is Datsyuk, though. Maybe there's a little hope with him.

#2291874 Time to start looking for a new coaching staff

Posted by Nevermind on 17 April 2012 - 11:36 PM

Babs line earlier in the year about wanting to be the toughest team, but not being built that way and the way he applauded Bertuzzi for fighting Weber make me believe he'd be a hell of a coach if he had more compete and more physical presence. Babs isn't the problem, but Holland and Nill might be. This off-season will be the biggest since 06-07, Holland delivered that year by getting Rafalski and Drake. Lets see what he does this time around.

I agree. We need to trim the fat and get some new hungry faces that play with grit. And can our fourth line actually be an energy line, please?

For reference, my memory of the summer of '07 through '08:
  • Lost: Lang, Calder, Bertuzzi, Schneider, Markov, Williams
  • Added: Rafalski, Drake, McCarty (mid-season), Stuart (deadline)
The difference is, I think our players were younger and hungrier than as well--they hadn't won a Cup, after all. So it's going to be tough to inject some new blood.
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#2290307 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Nevermind on 17 April 2012 - 06:45 PM


Thanks a lot! :)

#2288373 #5 Philadelphia Flyers vs. #4 Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by Nevermind on 15 April 2012 - 05:35 PM

When this series is over, i hope Flyers just skip handshaking part and goto their lockerroom.

And of all people, I bet Crosby would complain about it the most.

We all remember the effort he put into making sure he shook Lidstrom's hands 3 years ago. :rolleyes:

#2281016 The problem with our bottom six

Posted by Nevermind on 10 April 2012 - 05:53 PM

If Cleary and Helm were healthy, I actually like the 3rd line. They were playing great mid-season, along with Miller.

It's the 4th line that's the problem. That's what has no identity with guys just thrown together.

#2278950 Tortorella Slams Orpik, Crosby, Malkin,...

Posted by Nevermind on 06 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

I was 10 grand off. Damn.

20 grand off now. Link

Doesn't this prove Tortorella's point? I bet there wouldn't be a fine if he said the exact same thing about another team (even though nobody beats Pittsburgh in whining and arrogance level).

#2278697 Detroit has inside track on Parise

Posted by Nevermind on 06 April 2012 - 01:03 AM

Parise calls Datsyuk "my most favorite player to watch".


#2276974 Quincey suspended 1 game

Posted by Nevermind on 02 April 2012 - 02:37 PM

I was all excited about him coming back. Now after watching him I dont know what all of the hype was about. He looks like the same player we put on waivers. I am hoping that the streak and his return are unrelated, and that I am being a typical overanalytical wings fan.

He definitely isn't the reason for our recent struggles. But, he hasn't looked very good at all though. I'm guessing he gets 2 games.

Here's a question...I hate the guy, but would any of you rather have traded the first for Steve Downie directly? I'd still take Quincey, but not by much.

#2273064 Did Holland build a BMW instead of a Chevy?

Posted by Nevermind on 23 March 2012 - 12:10 AM

Hindsight of better/comparable players for each draft pick (I may have missed a few)

...yeah, I'm bored


97. Johan Franzen
127. Ryan Callahan (as much as I like the guy, you can't argue Franzen's playoff numbers...we should have had both :) )

128. Evan McGrath
134. Kris Versteeg
150. Mikhail Grabovski

Nothing too bad for the rest of the draft.


19. Jakub Kindl
21. Tuukka Rask
24. TJ Oshie
33. James Neal
35. Marc-Edouard Vlasic
41. Ondrej Pavelec

42. Justin Abdelkader

44. Paul Stastny (this one hurts)
51. Mason Raymond
62. Kristopher Letang (this too...)
72. Jonathan Quick
79. Cody Franson

80. Alex Rappold
85. Ben Bishop
87. Marc-Andre Gragnani
96. Chris Butler
101. Jared Boll

103. Mattias Ritola

105. Keith Yandle
108. Niklas Hjalmarsson

132. Darren Helm (perfect pick!)

137. Johan Ryno

142. Nathan Gerbe (I thought we were the ones to take chances on small players)

175. Juho Mielonen

190. Matt D'Agostini

214. Bretton Stamler

222. Kyle Cumiskey
230. Patric Hornqvist (last pick...Detroit style)


41. Cory Emmerton
44. Nikolai Kulemin
46. Jhonas Enroth

47. Shawn Matthias
50. Milan Lucic (maybe we'd trade him for Bertuzzi anyways)

62. Dick Axelsson

63. Jamie McBain
69. Steve Mason
71. Brad Marchand
72. Cal Clutterbuck

92. Daniel Larsson
99. James Reimer
112. Matt Beleskey
161. Viktor Stalberg

182. Jan Mursak
189. Derek Dorsett
196. Benn Ferriero

212. Logan Pyett
(third-to-last pick)


27. Brendan Smith
43. P.K. Subban (I prefer Smith though)

88. Joakim Andersson
97. Linus Omark
116. Keith Aulie
129. Jamie Benn

148. Randy Cameron
168. Carl Hagelin

178. Zach Torquato
194. Carl Gunnarsson


30. Thomas McCollum
31. Jacob Markstrom (ouch...one pick later)
38. Roman Josi
45. Zac Dalpe
51. Derek Stepan
60. Jimmy Hayes

91. Max Nicastro
93. Braden Holtby

121. Gustav Nyquist (looks like he has the best potential)

The picks from now on are too hard to tell.


32. Landon Ferraro
33. Ryan O'Reilly (really big loss here)
35. Kyle Clifford
46. Robin Lehner

60. Tomas Tatar (looks like a good pick)

Rest of the draft is too hard to tell. Need to wait a few more years. Same thing with 2010 and 2011 draft classes.

All in all, we've drafted pretty well since the lockout. Looking back, we've definitely passed on quite a few gritty players for skill players that never panned out though. But, you could just as easily look at it the other way for a lot of teams; they've passed on skilled players for gritty players that never make it to the show.

It's all a crapshoot. But, I like our stable with Nyquist, Tatar, Smith, Jarnkrok, Pulkkinen, etc.