I kind of felt like he was never "ours". Having guys like Yzerman, Lidstrom, etc stay for their entire careers, I feel disappointed that he had to leave Ottawa. That it only turned out to be for one season makes it especially unfortunate.
It especially sucks since last year with D and Z out half the season we relied on him soo much to help us make the playoffs. Without him last year we miss the playoffs.
Kindl and lashoff need to go, andersson, and trade 2 of helm, sheahan, tatar, nyquist, jurco and one of ferraro and callahan. If marchenko sproul and oulette arent good enough to play, when and if will they play.
I do hope Franzen gets back soon...so I can read all the folks in all the GDT's calling him out and complaining about him. He has to be the one guy that everyone loves when he is scoring and everyone hates when he isn't. He does not fool me...never has. I said it before and will say it again, I don't care if he scored 100 goals in 20 games, because he is going to disappear for the next 30 and then get injured. I appreciate when he scores, but I am not going to be a fan of his ever, because of the "vacation's" he takes from consistency. And he is replaceable. The last 5 games have proven that.
Yep, don't let stats and actually watching get in the way of your argument.
Manxy, how many chances does Franzen need? We've been giving him chances since 2009. I hope he comes back and score 5 points every 4 games, but in the end we all know that is not going to happen. I would take Jurco and Nesty over Franzen all day. But, some folks are still holding on to a 2008 Franzen that will never appear again. He's too fluffy now and he's never been anywhere near 2008 Franzen since he signed his "serious contract."
Yea, you take two players who have yet to put up over 20 points combined, in comparison to Mule who has put up 72 points in 95GP the last 2 years.
Good thing you don't run the team, our playoff streak would have been over before it started.
Jurco and Nesty have100X more energy than Franzen and actually have the other team turning around to watch them scrambling all over the ice. Franzen one dimensional and ALL teams know his inconsistencies... I am not denying the fact that before his well expected injury, he was playing good. I did praise him by saying one game "Who is this Franzen guy and what did he do with my Francine..." but that doesn't mean that he is going to bring anything more to the table that he doesn't normally bring. I guess I should have used the term IMO, he is replaceable. I happen to think that the chemistry that Jurco brings to this team with Tatar and Sheahan, is better than throwing Franzen in there to float around and put up 5 points in 4 games every couple of months...then get injured again. The team is cruising along no worse now than what it was with him in the lineup, and its not like he is going to return and put up 40 goals this season, he is not a difference maker. That is the tell-tale right there.
Yep your absolutely right. Let's just write him off before giving him any more chances. Let's continue to put out "energy" guys that have 2 points between them, while Franzen has 4GP and 5 points. We clearly don't need any help scoring goals or anything.
Franzen would not really make a difference when he comes back. The PP was horrible when he was in, and it still is. The ONLY thing Franzen is going to do when healthy is bump a more deserving player out of the lineup. I only mention him in response to someone above me saying put him back in and we will be dangerous. Franzen is more than replaceable with better players that are in our organization.
Jurco and Nesty are not playing better then Franzen before he got hurt.