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#2542956 10/21 GDT - Red Wings 1 at Canadiens 2 (OT)

Posted by LeftWinger on Yesterday, 07:33 PM

these line combos are killing me... I sure would love to see Nyquist up with Pav and Z. Put the kid line back together and put Abby on the third with Helm...

#2542595 Pavel Datsyuk update?

Posted by krsmith17 on 20 October 2014 - 11:36 AM

I don't mind those lines but if you're going to break up the kid line by taking Jurco off and inserting Nyquist, why not send Jurco down to the minors and put Weiss in the lineup...


I'd rather Helm - Weiss - Nestrasil to be honest. This coming from the biggest Jurco fan there is. He needs more time in GR in my opinion...

Yeah, or scratch Nestrasil but I think sooner or later (once everyone is healthy) one of Nestrasil or Jurco will have to be sent down, and I'd prefer it be Jurco.

Also, power-play units are:


Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Helm

Kronwall - Nyquist


Nestrasil - Sheahan - Jurco

DeKeyser - Tatar

#2541010 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by GoWings1905 on 15 October 2014 - 08:12 PM

Glendening makes Helm look like Stamkos.

#2538710 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 07 October 2014 - 10:15 AM

I wasn't happy lol ... I don't think people should hope for weiss to fail but be prepared incase he does . He hit 60 pt plateau twice playing on on a Florida team where he got top line minutes and ppl time and nothing was ever expected of him

Prior to coming here he had 4 pts in 17 games with Florida and last year he had 4 in 26 here (injury or not)
Now Babcock isn't even suiting him up , you don't think if weiss was doing so good in pre season and practice Babcock wouldn't put him in the top 2 lines ?especially with datsyuk out?

I hope weiss wakes up and gets us a 60 pt season cause we really need it , I'm just not expecting it


Tatar was a healthy scratch for numerous games at the beginning of last season and look how he turned out.


Don't judge Weiss until he has played healthy for the Wings. He may succeed; he may fail. But it's too early to tell and speculating about Babcock's preseason mind games with any player is futile.

#2538619 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by brett on 06 October 2014 - 06:36 PM

i dont like the forwards lines


defense is acceptable unless they send xo down.

waive kindl or lashoff whats the worse that can happen someone picks him? whoopdeedoo i could care less at this point. if someone going to make mistakes i rather it be a kid and one who can make up for his mistake by scoring. 


i really liked the tats dats helm line and think tats earned a top 6 spot. in preseason tats showed he can score and create plays against other top players where nyquist wasnt as noticeable.

sitting weiss doesnt make sense. if you want him to get going you need to play him if you want to trade him you have to play him now it would be a real kick in the balls to play nestrasil over weiss if datsyuk doesnt play.

throw him on wing with Z and mule, try to get them all going

on the other hand nyquist hasnt looked too hot throw him against some weaker competition to get his confidence going. nyquist sheehan jurco.

and then you got your grind line with abs glen and miller/andy


i dont believe abs deserves top 6 minutes hes showed it time after time. he hadf****** datsyuk at center and still can barely score. babs has to get it out of his head that they NEED a screen in front of a goalie to score goals. homer was amazing and the best at what he did. there is no one else in the league that will ever be able to do what he did. especially not abby or cleary


i know my lines will never happen. but i think the most important part is to keep the lines together whether they suck or dont. need to build chemistry. you could see in preseason not many players had any chemistry they didnt know where other players were going to be which lead to a lot of turn overs. 

#2538597 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 October 2014 - 04:26 PM

I wish we would trade either Helm or Abdelkader or a pick or two. They're both getting pretty redundant. If one of them were let go, I'd like to see:


Zetterberg Datsyuk Helm/Abdelkader

Nyquist Weiss Franzen

Tatar Sheahan Jurco








Not putting Weiss in the lineup would be incredibly stupid. I think he played well in the preseason despite only 1 assist. It took Hossa a little bit to mesh with the team, it'll take Weiss even longer and not even having him start the season would be a huge blow to his morale. Thankfully I think Babcock is just sending a message, he'll be in.


Babcock has a history of giving 2nd line centers s***ty wingers and being confused when they don't produce.


Helm and Kindl, packaged together, wouldn't get you much.  But they'd probably get you Alexander Semin.  Just sayin'. 



Then again, Semin's got too obvious a skill set.  Babcock would invariably make him the fourth line goalie or something. 

#2538563 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 October 2014 - 02:18 PM


He says that, then puts Abby on the top line....


Yea, Z will really get er going with Abby on the Wing.


Just like demoting Weiss after not registering a point while given third line minutes with Kevinf****** Porter on his wing. 


How is it that he didn't lead the team in points with opportunities like that?

#2538509 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 06 October 2014 - 10:00 AM

Ya I don't understand how Weiss isn't in. He's a good player and should be playing with top 6 talent. Big mistake

#2538433 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by Euro_Twins on 05 October 2014 - 10:16 AM

They said the same thing about Vrbata and Neilsen yet they score at a 50% rate.

Datsyuk has 1 move, he just either goes forehand or backhand. Aside from last year when he was struggling through a knee injury he still scores close to 50%

#2538262 10/3 Preseason Game: Detroit Red Wings vs Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by Playmaker on 04 October 2014 - 07:55 AM

I've tried endlessly to defend Franzen, but his attitude is just killing me right now.  The canned responses from some athletes can get somewhat tiresome, but Franzen's finger pointing and basically blaming the fans for expecting him to produce more is nauseating.  Acting like he's some 4th liner who got a little lucky a few times around the net makes him look like an unmotivated lazy idiot. Putting out the impression that he's some Selke candidate who would be hurting the team if he actually tried to score more, just unbelievable.  I don't even think he's in the top 10 on his own team defensively, let alone in the league. Playing well defensively doesn't seem to stop Hossa from scoring. He's a scorer who doesn't want to score, he's a big guy who won't use his body, and he uses his lower than average defense as an excuse for all of it.  Enough already.

#2537387 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 September 2014 - 11:33 AM

I think there's a difference between wanting a guy to fail, and thinking he's going to fail. Do I want Dan Cleary to have a 20-20 year and work on the PK? Absolutely, but I don't think that's going to happen. I think sometimes people get so caught up in disliking the decisions that a team makes, that they turn their focus to the player instead. I know I'm guilty of that (*cough* Quincey *cough*).


As far as the defense goes, I think Quincey is safe for now. If anyone should be worried, I think it's Kindl.

Ouellet's right on his heels, I'd say. So far he's looked completely in place on this team's blueline, and he played over 24 minutes last night. Perhaps it's just me, but I think Ouellet's is way ahead of the other three guys vying for spots right now. Sproul looked amazing on the PP, but definitely has to shore up his work in the defensive zone. Backman will need this season to transition to NA play, but once he does, he'll be very reliable. Marchenko is worrying me a bit - I hope his ankle injury doesn't prove to be an issue. He's looked a bit off so far, IMO.

#2537390 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by T.Low on 26 September 2014 - 12:05 PM

You forgot the most important stat.
Cleary was a -2

I tend towards bringing cookies, not coal.

#2536793 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by joesuffP on 22 September 2014 - 06:30 PM

great 4th line shift

He did not draw the penalty, Datsyuk did.

He had a terrible turnover early but that play you're mentioning he did not look out of place. He's got great patience plays with his head up
I'm predicting Tatar-Datsyuk and Nyquist-Zetterberg will be the money combinations all year.

#2536437 Mantha's Injury

Posted by F.Michael on 17 September 2014 - 01:52 PM

Now if the Wings dressed some enforcers for that game.....That knee injury would've never happened.

#2536342 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 16 September 2014 - 05:03 PM

A lot of people posting about how he was low balled, but not one praising Holland for getting him so cheap? Anyway will this deal end with him being an RFA or a UFA?