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#2530769 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 09 July 2014 - 10:33 AM

@ArthurJRegner said #RedWings would like to move players like Landon Ferraro to #Capitals for Mike Green.
Annnnd, there goes that.

If Holland is able to trade for Green with Ferraro being the centerpiece and some draft picks I will renounce my will for him to be fired.

#2530675 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Zetts on 08 July 2014 - 05:40 PM

How about Helm and Kindl straight up?  Sign Morris, have two RH d-men, waive Lashoff, #kfq is your 7th guy...



Kronwall - Green

Smith - Dekeyser

Ericsson - Morris


I know he's had injury issues, but you don't trade a player like Helm unless you're getting a really, really good return. 

#2530667 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 July 2014 - 05:06 PM

Relax Kip, if you go back and re-read everything I've said about Green, I've said several times that I wouldn't part with any of our top players or prospects, including Tatar. There is no way Green on an expiring contract is worth that. I just stated to the people that would be offering up Pulkkinen, I would think twice about trading him away...

#2530659 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 July 2014 - 04:48 PM

I am going to say it again. I would much rather include Tatar over Pulkkinen in any trade. Tatar has much more value in a trade right now and I think Pulkkinen, if he reaches his potential, would have more value to us in the future.

#2530612 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

He would absolutely be a great addition to the team, like everyone else is saying, as long as it doesn't cost us too much in assets. There is no way the Caps would get any of our top players or prospects, so no they would not be asking for Jurco. Green is on the last year of his contract, and is slightly overpaid in my opinion, and the Caps need to trim a player from their blue line and they need cap space to sign another decent forward. All of this is what makes the Caps (Green) a perfect trade partner for us. But then again, I'm sure there are a lot of other teams that may be thinking the same thing, so let's hope Holland can make a reasonable offer without giving up too much of the future...

#2530576 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by kipwinger on 08 July 2014 - 10:10 AM

Another thing about Green is, I'm not sure how bad he really is defensively.  I mean, I'm positive he's not going to be some stud shutdown defender.  But I always take reports about Washington players being "lazy" or "bad defensively" or "not a team player" with a grain of salt.  They've bred a culture of lazy, defensively irresponsible, play for years.  When guys go there, they play poor defense and are lackluster, and when they leave they play good hockey. 


I think part of the reason why they picked Trotz was to change all that.  Green has the skating and size to be a decent defender, not great...but decent.  Like Rafalski.  Could Green be that for someone other than Washington?  I don't know.  But I'm pretty positive he's never, in his entire career, been asked to be up to this point. 

#2530526 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 07 July 2014 - 10:58 PM

I think at least 2 of our D prospects will be ready after THIS season - so ya it will interfere. Ideally we'd break one in this year and then move Lashoff and Kindl out and break in another next year.


I agree, but look at the contract Sheahan signed. I don't think it'll break us in the next 2 seasons

#2530424 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nosyt612 on 07 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

Good point about Babcock...until he is gone, this team is stuck in a rut.  Legwand waived his NTC because he wanted to play here, but after what Babcock did to him, he bolted.  Babcock is the issue why no good UFA wants to come here...and its no secret why Canada is going in a different direction for their Olympic team next time.

The back to back Gold medals is a big underachievement. 

#2530419 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by LeftWinger on 07 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

They were just examples, and I am glad folks agree that there are players in the league that have more value than Zetterberg.  And know that I am not for trading Pav or Z unless it is for the likes of a player of their stature...I am not about just throwing them away for a rebuild, they'd have to bring in a new nucleus to our core.


Like I said, I am not saying trade them, I'd like to win it again with them, but the way Holland has been doing things the last few years, it ain't happening...


and I mean, the shriveled old man he is slowly going to turn into as his contracts expires...I give him full credit and appreciation for what he does and has done, but once Pav goes, Z becomes that much less effective and has the years come off his contract, he will start to turn old and not very effective at all.

#2530398 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by sjr2012 on 07 July 2014 - 12:14 PM

My god, this place has gotten so bad that we are talking about trading Z and D now?



I hear you there is not a player on this planet I would trade those two for not 1 in the long run I want to say that z and d where wings for life never once giving up on the potential for our young core to spring to life and show a lot of the naysayers that we can possibly do wonders with them

#2530250 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by FlashyG on 06 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

Right now I'm currently locked in a very tight back and forth Battle with the Philadelphia Flyers in the semi-finals of the competition.


I need help getting votes to move on to meet the Sharks in the finals.


Not only is their GDT a wall of text they have been quite disrespectful towards my work. 


You need to have an HFboards account already to vote, but if you have one please follow the link cast your vote




Thanks for any help you can give me.

#2530109 Hockey News: Red Wings D hunting

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 05 July 2014 - 01:07 PM

Last season, Buff scored 56 points in 78 games, 256 shots, 213 hits and 80 blocked shots. For someone that plays that physical, still managed under 100 PIM. 


Just saying, heavy point shot PP guy that rips it on net a LOT, will take the body and put up points like a top 6 forward, i'll take him in a second. Sounds like he has a lot of attributes we were severely lacking last season, especially in playoffs.

#2530215 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by krsmith17 on 06 July 2014 - 08:23 AM

I'm surprised so many people are saying that he should spend the whole year in Grand Rapids. I definitely agree, I just thought there were a lot more people here saying he should be given an NHL spot out of camp.


My bet is he starts the season down in Grand Rapids, he struggles for the first month - month and a half before he really finds his game, he possibly gets a look when a top 6 guy goes down with an injury, and is sent down after a few mediocre games, he finishes his first pro season with around 60 points in 70 games. He starts the following season, again with Grand Rapids and is leading the league halfway through the season with 50 points in 35 games, he then gets called up and remains with the Wings for the rest of the season, scoring 25 points in 45 games with the Wings... :)

#2530015 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by _SP_ on 04 July 2014 - 06:27 PM

Do you even watch the wings? Like I'm not tryig to be mean...but really. Do you not remember ANDERSON as our top line center? What caused that? Injuries. The same injury prone players being injured and you think it's going to change this year why?

Why do you think year after year when the same players are injured Itll change this year? Legwand is just a cheap insurance policy that we now wont have.


Are you kidding??? Who was injured when AndersSon was playing??? Datsyuk... Zetterberg...Helm... Weiss... all those guys we just listed.  DEPTH = 6-8 guys who can play center, NOT who can play center ON THE FIRST LINE. 


I get the feeling you just like to argue with people.  Half your arguments make no sense, other than to rile people up.

#2530009 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by number9 on 04 July 2014 - 06:06 PM

My argument is look at out lack of center depth and question marks...legwand on a one or two year deal would've been good.

Whereas defense where our question marks elite defense? Quincey isn't. Right handed defenseman? Quincey isn't. Depth defenseman? Quincey is but well would you rather have Quincey or marchenko? Or sproul? Or oullete? Etc etc

At center right now we got dat Weiss Sheahan and helm. Helm and dat have some injury issues. Weiss is the biggest question mark in this team. Can he stay healthy? If so, can he be a number two center again?

After those four we got z and glen. Z also has injury issues and is better to be at wing and glen is a fourth liner. Anderson is also a fourth liner.

The reason why legwand makes the most sense of any of our UFAs is because he is a cheaper insurance policy for injuries which WILL happen and for if Weiss can't live up to his contract. If they do....then put legwand at wing hell he had 50+ points.

So yes comparing legwand to Quincey in terms of ho is a bigger need an cost is quite easy...if you think.

We have Dats, Weiss, Helm, Sheahan, Andersson, and Glendening

Zetterberg is also elite at C if we need him, and Franzen is a capable C as a last resort (don't turn this into an I hate Franzen thread)

Ur crazy to think we need more Cs, it's one of our deepest, if not the deepest, positions we have.