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#2538619 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by brett on 06 October 2014 - 06:36 PM

i dont like the forwards lines


defense is acceptable unless they send xo down.

waive kindl or lashoff whats the worse that can happen someone picks him? whoopdeedoo i could care less at this point. if someone going to make mistakes i rather it be a kid and one who can make up for his mistake by scoring. 


i really liked the tats dats helm line and think tats earned a top 6 spot. in preseason tats showed he can score and create plays against other top players where nyquist wasnt as noticeable.

sitting weiss doesnt make sense. if you want him to get going you need to play him if you want to trade him you have to play him now it would be a real kick in the balls to play nestrasil over weiss if datsyuk doesnt play.

throw him on wing with Z and mule, try to get them all going

on the other hand nyquist hasnt looked too hot throw him against some weaker competition to get his confidence going. nyquist sheehan jurco.

and then you got your grind line with abs glen and miller/andy


i dont believe abs deserves top 6 minutes hes showed it time after time. he hadf****** datsyuk at center and still can barely score. babs has to get it out of his head that they NEED a screen in front of a goalie to score goals. homer was amazing and the best at what he did. there is no one else in the league that will ever be able to do what he did. especially not abby or cleary


i know my lines will never happen. but i think the most important part is to keep the lines together whether they suck or dont. need to build chemistry. you could see in preseason not many players had any chemistry they didnt know where other players were going to be which lead to a lot of turn overs. 

#2538597 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 October 2014 - 04:26 PM

I wish we would trade either Helm or Abdelkader or a pick or two. They're both getting pretty redundant. If one of them were let go, I'd like to see:


Zetterberg Datsyuk Helm/Abdelkader

Nyquist Weiss Franzen

Tatar Sheahan Jurco








Not putting Weiss in the lineup would be incredibly stupid. I think he played well in the preseason despite only 1 assist. It took Hossa a little bit to mesh with the team, it'll take Weiss even longer and not even having him start the season would be a huge blow to his morale. Thankfully I think Babcock is just sending a message, he'll be in.


Babcock has a history of giving 2nd line centers s***ty wingers and being confused when they don't produce.


Helm and Kindl, packaged together, wouldn't get you much.  But they'd probably get you Alexander Semin.  Just sayin'. 



Then again, Semin's got too obvious a skill set.  Babcock would invariably make him the fourth line goalie or something. 

#2538563 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by kipwinger on 06 October 2014 - 02:18 PM


He says that, then puts Abby on the top line....


Yea, Z will really get er going with Abby on the Wing.


Just like demoting Weiss after not registering a point while given third line minutes with Kevinf****** Porter on his wing. 


How is it that he didn't lead the team in points with opportunities like that?

#2538509 Datsyuk to play Thursday? Weiss to be a healthy scratch?

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 06 October 2014 - 10:00 AM

Ya I don't understand how Weiss isn't in. He's a good player and should be playing with top 6 talent. Big mistake

#2538433 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by Euro_Twins on 05 October 2014 - 10:16 AM

They said the same thing about Vrbata and Neilsen yet they score at a 50% rate.

Datsyuk has 1 move, he just either goes forehand or backhand. Aside from last year when he was struggling through a knee injury he still scores close to 50%

#2538262 10/3 Preseason Game: Detroit Red Wings vs Toronto Maple Leafs

Posted by Playmaker on 04 October 2014 - 07:55 AM

I've tried endlessly to defend Franzen, but his attitude is just killing me right now.  The canned responses from some athletes can get somewhat tiresome, but Franzen's finger pointing and basically blaming the fans for expecting him to produce more is nauseating.  Acting like he's some 4th liner who got a little lucky a few times around the net makes him look like an unmotivated lazy idiot. Putting out the impression that he's some Selke candidate who would be hurting the team if he actually tried to score more, just unbelievable.  I don't even think he's in the top 10 on his own team defensively, let alone in the league. Playing well defensively doesn't seem to stop Hossa from scoring. He's a scorer who doesn't want to score, he's a big guy who won't use his body, and he uses his lower than average defense as an excuse for all of it.  Enough already.

#2537387 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by Jesusberg on 26 September 2014 - 11:33 AM

I think there's a difference between wanting a guy to fail, and thinking he's going to fail. Do I want Dan Cleary to have a 20-20 year and work on the PK? Absolutely, but I don't think that's going to happen. I think sometimes people get so caught up in disliking the decisions that a team makes, that they turn their focus to the player instead. I know I'm guilty of that (*cough* Quincey *cough*).


As far as the defense goes, I think Quincey is safe for now. If anyone should be worried, I think it's Kindl.

Ouellet's right on his heels, I'd say. So far he's looked completely in place on this team's blueline, and he played over 24 minutes last night. Perhaps it's just me, but I think Ouellet's is way ahead of the other three guys vying for spots right now. Sproul looked amazing on the PP, but definitely has to shore up his work in the defensive zone. Backman will need this season to transition to NA play, but once he does, he'll be very reliable. Marchenko is worrying me a bit - I hope his ankle injury doesn't prove to be an issue. He's looked a bit off so far, IMO.

#2537390 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by T.Low on 26 September 2014 - 12:05 PM

You forgot the most important stat.
Cleary was a -2

I tend towards bringing cookies, not coal.

#2536793 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by joesuffP on 22 September 2014 - 06:30 PM

great 4th line shift

He did not draw the penalty, Datsyuk did.

He had a terrible turnover early but that play you're mentioning he did not look out of place. He's got great patience plays with his head up
I'm predicting Tatar-Datsyuk and Nyquist-Zetterberg will be the money combinations all year.

#2536437 Mantha's Injury

Posted by F.Michael on 17 September 2014 - 01:52 PM

Now if the Wings dressed some enforcers for that game.....That knee injury would've never happened.

#2536342 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on 16 September 2014 - 05:03 PM

A lot of people posting about how he was low balled, but not one praising Holland for getting him so cheap? Anyway will this deal end with him being an RFA or a UFA?

#2536180 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by Euro_Twins on 14 September 2014 - 08:35 AM

Let's not hope Babcock tries to turn him into a defenseman..../ sarcasm

I can see your point... Let him be fed and rack up points; Ya think he could put up more points playing with Pavs and Hank versus Abby?

My left shoe could put up more points than Abby playing with z and d.

#2535974 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by rick zombo on 11 September 2014 - 02:32 PM

Just wait for the first in-game injury. This forum is going to be something.

This forum is going to be 'something' regardless of what happens.
If Mantha plays 40 games and has 15 goals it won't be:
"Awesome, this kid's the real deal and our future is secure. Way to go Holland and staff for drafting this guy!!!!"  
It will be: " f*** you Kenny for signing Cleary and Quincey and letting Hossa go and not giving me a team as tough as Calgary and for not signing Niskanen"
Some dudes on here have spent too much time building their opinions and reputations and dealing in absolutes. Whatever happens this year, people are going to feel the need to spin it whatever way they need to in order to back up their zealousness.

#2534581 Alfie wants to play

Posted by derblaueClaus on 19 August 2014 - 06:45 PM

Ryan Suter and David Backes

I think Kopitar and Weber are better fits. Kopitar could center our 3rd line if Helm is injured again.

#2535093 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 28 August 2014 - 02:03 PM

I want nothing to do with a Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Alfie (or Nyquist) top line.  It should be wildly clear over the last five or six post seasons that we don't have anyone scoring down low.  Giving another perimeter guy top line minutes is a recipe for failure.  I'd rather lose a little bit of offense but change the dynamic of our attack than keep throwing the same one dimensional attack at teams over and over and over.  Jurco showed a willingness to use his body to protect the puck, was strong in the corners, and had no problem creating offense in traffic.  Plus, despite rookie linemates, limited minutes, and no powerplay time, his offensive number projected very favorably to Alfie's over a full season (and should only increase with D and Z).


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