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#2619906 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Barrie on 09 July 2015 - 09:47 PM

Realistically he should only make a few hundred grand more then Tatar, just for inflation purposes, despite Tatar being the better player last year.




#2619903 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by krsmith17 on 09 July 2015 - 08:54 PM

darkmanx, haven't you heard? Mantha sucks, Pulkkinen sucks, etc, etc...

Slight tongue in cheek on my part...


#2619736 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2015 - 10:50 PM

All the right answers.
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=0vUmk8S6Njw

I love it. Everyone is either Crosby or datsyuk, datsyuk says "I try to, I don't watch hockey, I don't know why, we have too many meetings" which means I'm the best player I've ever seen play

Also near the end when do your eyes light up most, Phaneuf says, when we win... His eyes don't light up often


#2619698 Hoggan, Paetsch, and Grant resigned...

Posted by evilmrt on 08 July 2015 - 07:03 PM

 
Last time I checked he's not playing for the Red Wings, he's playing for Grand Rapids.
 
Also what does this have to do with Holland?


The Wings have assumed GM responsibilities for the Griffs for a few years now.


#2619711 Wings‬ sign left wing Eric Tangradi

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 08 July 2015 - 08:46 PM

Finally someone that will add some punch to the fourth line.

Hope he has the next Stars game red marked on his calender.

I like this signing a lot now 2 other guys like him and the fourth line won't be a joke anymore.

You know he probably won't make our team, right?


#2619704 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by WingsAlways on 08 July 2015 - 07:48 PM

first time I've heard Richards described as fast.

 

From what I've saw of the guy he always seems to be in the right place at the right time and has a hell of a shot, he certainly isn't going to make us a slower team. I'll take some hockey sense to go with our speed anytime.




#2619702 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by number9 on 08 July 2015 - 07:35 PM

Butts? Pretzels? Richardssssss


#2619540 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by kliq on 07 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

Buffalo has had so much cap space to burn they would have offered Kane the moon if he would have become an ufa..think about merchandise from Jersey sales and all that stuff. At one point they were exactly 13 million under the cap floor so bringing in Kane would have made a lot of sense. Same goes for Winnipeg and Toews, a hometown kid who has won 2 cups, 2 gold medals and is just so clutch when needed ? Yup that's when the richest owner in the nhl would have opened his massive pocket.

We can argue about semantics all day long but basically a pay cut is defined as a reduced salary so compared to the potential he could have made on the open market yes he took a pay cut..if you are looking at it for the perspective of going from the 2 to the 3 contract then no he didn't.

And yes, you are right I am mad at the NHL but I don't view it as a win or victory if a player gets a nice contract. In fact I am not that emotionally attached to these things all I am saying is that I can understand every player who wants to get paid close or maybe even above what they are worth.

So maybe people are right and Goose signs a deal for 4 x 4 but I think it would suck if people turn at him because he commands and gets something significantly higher.

And guess what if Larkin delivers even 2 cups in 6 years I couldn't care less for what he asks just pay it and enjoy the ride..which sadly is exactly what Toews is doing for the Hawks

 

Frank, at the end of the day you are just guessing, who knows what Buffalo would have offered Kane. Even if they were under the cap floor, that was for 1 season. If we are talking long term contract year, being under the floor one year means nothing.

 

The fact that you are bringing up that the Winnipeg owner has deep pockets just reinforces to me that you don't get it. Its not about how much money an owner has, its about managing a team in a salary cap system for the short term, and the long term. Giving one player 13 million for a long time could absolutely screw a team over if that player doesn't produce, or even if he does produce, handicap that team.

 

I still don't get your "pay-cut" logic. You are saying that because he is allowed to get paid 13mil, if he signs for anything less its a "pay-cut". He is literally the highest paid player in the league, and his salary is constantly rising, not a pay-cut. If he signed for 13mil x 8 it would do Chicago more harm then good, hence he is not worth it.




#2619556 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 July 2015 - 07:04 AM

I don't understand this talk about Nyquist not being very good defensively...? I think he is one of our top defensive forwards, at least when it comes to stripping opposition of the puck. He's very Datsyukien when it comes to pickpocketing opponents. No, he doesn't play on the penalty-kill, nor should he, with the likes of Glendening, Miller, Helm, Abdelkader, Ferraro / Callahan / Andersson in the lineup. I'm not sure what Nyquist will get, I think some people are over shooting what he should get / will get and others are under shooting. I have full confidence in Ken that he will get a fair deal done over the next week or so...


#2619519 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by kliq on 07 July 2015 - 07:52 PM

 

Buffalo would have and I'm sure  Winnipeg was prepaired to pay Toews the max and guess what Toews would still have been worth it, also people need to finally understand the differense between pre new CBA and post new CBA AAV terms it's not that hard really.

 

This stupid line of thinking that nobody deserves maximum is just false, Toews is a top 3 ! player worldwide so he would for sure have gotten it from Winnipeg or someone else with enough cap-space. Can't wait till Stamkos signs his 12,5 AAV or whatever extension and people crying about him not being worth it...

 

Do you know what a "pay-cut" is? A pay-cut is when you take less money then what you used to get. Jonathan Toews NEVER took a pay-cut. http://www.spotrac.c...jonathan-toews/

 

You say Winnipeg & Buffalo were prepared to pay Towes 13.3 million a year? Please post a link to someone from either organization verifying or even hinting to this. Or are you just making up things as if they are facts because it helps your argument?

 

I don't think Towes is a top 3 player, I think he has been lucky enough to play with great players for the last 6 years, but that is irrelevant to this argument. I'm starting to see your philosophy Frank, you are pissed at the NHL/owners and anytime a player can get as much as they can out of them, you consider it a small "win". Nyquist is the perfect example, you seem to want him to get paid as much as possible even though if he does get a ridicoulas O'Rielly type contract, it hurts the Wings.

 

No one is disputing with you that these players CAN ask for the moon, what people including myself are saying is that in a team game where the team can only spend so much money with the cap, for a player to take a huge percentage of that money especially when the player is not worth it (ie. O'Rielly) it can and will hurt the team. Players that only look out for themselves are then perceived as selfish and entitled.

 

There is a reason why guys like Lidstrom & Datsyuk are so well respected around here, they never put themselves first and even though they COULD get more money, they are/were willing to take a slight decrease in salary for the good of the team. They are still paid well, but not to the point where it hurts the team.




#2619483 Free agents this off season

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 07 July 2015 - 04:01 PM

I mean, until he's actually able to rip off his canon of a shot in the NHL, I think he's technically a zero trick pony.

Some of these comments are hilarious ... Can we at least give the guy a full season before tearing him into shreds?

Nyquist 4 goals in first 40 games in 2 seasons

Tatar 5 goals in his first 27 games in 2 seasons

Pulkkinen 5 goals in his first 34 games in 2 seasons


What a bust ... I'm sure he'll be better utilized with Blashill as coach

Let's wait and see what he does next season


#2619381 Free agents this off season

Posted by krsmith17 on 07 July 2015 - 11:09 AM

Pulkkinen is far from "slow"... He has a very awkward stride but he can actually get up and down the ice pretty quick. He's not Helm fast, but not many are. I bet if there were a race between the entire team, he would finish somewhere in the middle. But yeah, it is completely unreasonable to think he would produce more than Tatar, being much more productive in the AHL...Pulkkinen - 121 points (65 goals, 56 assists) in 119 games and Tatar - 196 (87 goals, 109 assists) in 265 games... Also very similar numbers to start their NHL careers... Pulkkinen - 8 points (5 goals, 3 assists) in 34 games and Tatar - 8 points (5 goals, 3 assists) in 27 games...


#2619365 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 07 July 2015 - 10:02 AM

We need to weed out some of the guys who will never produce and trade them for another solid piece (Shattenkirk etc...).

So... Garbage Out/Talent In.

Yeah... No.  Not gonna happen. 

St. Louis, for example, isn't going to take our middling/marginal/third pairing/bottom 6 talent and give us Shattenkirk. 

It just doesn't work that way.




#2619257 Babcock's already losing it?

Posted by toby91_ca on 06 July 2015 - 03:00 PM

Couple points:

 

  - Kadri has the skill to be an elite player, we'll see if it happens.  Signing him to a 1 year deal makes total sense.  He's a risk to sign long-term as there are question marks with him, but signing short term is a risk too because he could pull it all together this year.  That part of the business and the risks you have to take.  I don't have a problem with what Babcock said, because he could turn it around and also, as someone else mentioned, you want to motivate your players.

 

  - Mitch Marner has played both centre and wing and the Leafs want him to come in as a centre (this is coming first hand from Marner). 




#2619246 Babcock's already losing it?

Posted by rick zombo on 06 July 2015 - 02:27 PM

He's coaching. What does anyone expect? Are we going to start a new thread everytime Babcock says something like this to the media?

 

It sort of make it look like we're bitter he left when we should be glad he left and embracing the new program.