i remember getting blasted here for not liking the weiss signing saying he was overrated ... now that hes got only 2 goals are most people here happy??? yes i know hes missed a year of hockey but his skating seems fine and hes suppose to be a playmaker yet he has 0 assists , i hope the guy turns it around for the wings sake
i never saw the point of signing him among others when jurco,sheahan,ferraro and others are close to making the team .... i also didnt like alfredsson signing because of his 5.5 cap year but since its only 1 year i can live with it
Great another "I told you Weiss was going to suck" post. Seems all you guys are coming out of the woodwork. Surprised you didn't quote yourself like the rest...
I'll be concerned if he's still not successful late in the season. We have him committed for over 400 games. Let's not burn him at the stake after 16.
Jurco, Sheahan, Ferraro are not close to being a second line center.
Alfredsson? Yeah who wants a proven top line right handed shooting forward completely for free with no risk on a discount. How silly of us.
Posted by kipwinger
on 03 November 2013 - 02:37 AM
You guys have made this thread all about whether Weiss is a more skilled player than Filppula, which I think misses the point. The real concern is whether or not Weiss can be a better player, FOR US, than Filppula was. And in spite of his struggles, I'm not sure that he won't be. He's looking better, and so far this season it's not like anybody else on our team has set the world on fire...to include D and Z. Who cares what Filppula's totals are, we've seen what our teams looks like with him (for several years now) and it didn't win. Time to try something new.
Best Forward: Tomas Tatar. He was everywhere. It's safe to say that he'll play in every game from here on out, barring a slump or an injury. Honorable mention goes to Darren Helm, who kicked off the scoring and showed us that yes, he's back.
Worst Forward: Dan Cleary, for obvious reasons. True, the fact that very simply does not belong on this team always gets him extra criticism, but he also managed to be completely invisible on a night when nearly every player on the team looked very good. Honorable mention goes to Mikael Samuelsson, who likewise should not be on this team, and who likewise played very ineffectively.
Best Defenseman: Jakub Kindl. Jakub had a beast of a game. He shot the puck constantly, powerfully, and accurately, and played very well on defense. He's got the rare gift of consistently being able to get pucks through a crowd. He's also got a deceptively powerful shot and knows when to use it. Honorable mention goes to Danny DeKeyser, who continues to play most ably on the first pairing.
Worst Defenseman: Brendan Smith. In a game that the Red Wings dominated, Smith had a visibly bad performance. He took three unnecessary penalties, all of them stupid and two of them because he was out of position; he was the single Red Wing to take a penalty in this game, and he contributed absolutely nothing on offense. Honorable mention goes to Kyle Quincey, who had a typically iffy game. I felt a momentary rush of excitement when it appeared that he had been injured. This was terrible, and I felt a bit guilty afterward, but the simple fact is that he's not a very good defenseman. The good news about this contest was that he managed to get a few shots on the goalie; he most often misses by a wide margin.
Most Effective Line: Andersson, Tatar, and Abdelkader. These guys looked very good. The Oilers simply had no answer for them.
Least Effective Line: Alfredsson, Cleary, and Weiss. Alfredsson played very well, and Weiss continues to improve. Cleary, however, continues to be horrible. He struggles to generate even the slightest bit of offense, and is unable even to play a grinding role.
MVP: Jakub Kindl. The reasons are pretty obvious.
Goat: Brendan Smith. The reasons for this are likewise obvious.
Overall Grade: A. This was a dominant performance with no apparent downsides. Petr Mrazek was barely tested, and appeared thoroughly bored throughout the game. The Oilers were thoroughly beaten, spending most of the game chasing the Red Wings. If there was any criticism that could be directed at the team for this game, it was the ineffectiveness of the power play. Still, it's hard to complain at all after such an absolute drubbing of the opposition.