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#2610419 At what point does the GM deserve credit/blame?

Posted by darkmanx on 26 May 2015 - 05:17 PM

Ken Holland has been with the organization for 30 years.  18 of which he's been the GM.  He started as as scout, then the director of scouting, then the assistant GM, then the co-GM, and then the full GM.  It's not a coincidence that he was hired just prior to the Wings beginning an epic playoff streak. 
 
To try and dismiss his contributions to the organization as anything less than profound would be an absolutely gross understatement.  He's been more important to this team's success then any other individual. 
 
If you hire a GM from outside the organization, you can argue he's riding coattails.  But it's a little hard to say that about a guy who's been a member of the Red Wings longer than Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom. 
 
To a lesser extent, this is true of Stan Bowman as well.  Sure Tallon was the GM before him.  But he started with Chicago in 2001 when they were a garbage team.  Unless he was just standing around playing with himself for 8 years he likely contributed to their assent.  Is he entirely responsible?  No.  But he's contributed from the bottom up. 
 
Yzerman doesn't deserve much credit for that first conference finals appearance as he had just come in from outside the organization and had been with the team for less than a year.  But he deserves credit for every single other success they've had since. 


People will always s*** on Holland and it's pretty sad. No one really knows what we have had the last 20 years until it's gone. He has an eye for talent and continues to pick the correct draft picks year after year. I mean Larkin could have probably been picked top 5 last year at the pace he's at right now. In my opinion he's a huge steal for us.


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#2610010 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 25 May 2015 - 06:58 AM

They think babs is going to make them the best team to ever play, and that he can make kessel into the best two way player ever, that he made z and pav the players they are...
Straight up, the most naive people in the world.

 

Why do I torture myself to live here :)




#2610002 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 24 May 2015 - 10:49 PM

I was listening to PTS podcast and Leaf fans were calling in and saying they would have driven Kadri to the airport for Babcock.

 

wtf?




#2609975 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 24 May 2015 - 06:45 PM

Someone pm me the stream please?

 

Check your PM


I'm not sure of any free streams. I use hockeystreams.com, which I pay for and you can also pay for a stream on AHLlive...

 

Hockeystreams FTW!




#2609934 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 24 May 2015 - 11:11 AM

 

Blashill said the appeal of grouping Larkin with Athanasiou is that "both are fast. And then if we add Anthony, he can keep up with those guys, and he adds size."

 

AA - Larkin - Mantha

 

Excited to see this tonight.




#2609842 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 23 May 2015 - 07:37 AM

 

And he didn't even cry he was close to it (maybe very close) but that's just what real men do, you are close to crying but you never do in front of a lot of people.

 

I know plenty of "real men" that cry. It's called emotion and it doesn't make you any less of a man because you cried in front of people. That's just something people say just to say it.




#2609800 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 22 May 2015 - 08:56 PM

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They gonna be realgud.




#2609784 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 22 May 2015 - 06:18 PM

I'm excited for both the Wings and the Leafs. Honestly, guys...what is with all the Leafs hate? Nobody who claims to love this game would want Detroit's historic rival to languish in the league basement for decades. I personally look forward to Babcock coaching a team that actually is a challenge for the Wings to play.

 

I do hope they suffer. If you live in Toronto you would understand.




#2609731 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 22 May 2015 - 02:25 PM

 
Oh really?
 
Funny how his Wiki page has no success or coaching experience compared to Blashill.
 
This is his coaching Experience:
 
 
 
That's all

Assistant to head minor leaguer to head NHLer, and went to the finals in the AHL
Similar
 
So did Babcock's. Also, Eakins was thrown into the dumpster fire that has been the Edmonton Oilers. The problems with that team were far deeper than coaching. 

So what makes good coach is a good team???
Looks similar to Dallas Eakins old resume
 
Eakins coached NHL players he groomed in the AHL? Eakins Associate Coached the Oilers prior to that? Eakins was groomed within a program with  tradition that has a 24 year legacy of winning?

Like I said. He has zero experience as an NHL head coach. His only plus is a small familiarity with the roster.
That's not much


Read my earlier post.

The resumes thus far are not even close. Blashill had put in his time and accomplished more right off that bat.


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#2609719 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 22 May 2015 - 01:48 PM

Looks similar to Dallas Eakins old resume

 

Oh really?

 

Funny how his Wiki page has no success or coaching experience compared to Blashill.

 

This is his coaching Experience:

 

Eakins was named as an assistant coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs on July 20, 2006.[8] Eakins served the same role the year before for the Toronto Marlies of the AHL.[citation needed]

On August 4, 2009, Eakins was named the head coach of the Toronto Marlies.[9][10]

 
Eakins coaching the Edmonton Oilers in 2014

Eakins was named as one of two head coaches representing the Western Conference for the AHL All-Star Games for both the 2011-2012 and 2012-2013 seasons.

On June 10, 2013, Eakins was named the head coach of the Edmonton Oilers.[11] He was fired from his position on December 15, 2014.[12]

 

 

 

That's all




#2609716 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 22 May 2015 - 01:43 PM

Jon Cooper inherited a star studded team too

Basically Blashhills credentials are: familiarity with some of the roster

 

He was won at every level he coached at.

 

2008 Clark Cup Champion

2010 Blashill led WMU to a top-four finish in the CCHA; best year for WMU in 15 years.

2011 USCHO Coach of the year

2013 Calder Cup Champion

2014 AHL Coach of the year.

 

But he can only coach kids fed to him.




#2609539 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by darkmanx on 21 May 2015 - 05:39 PM

Our next coach! Hows that for motivation.

 




#2609533 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by darkmanx on 21 May 2015 - 05:26 PM

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#2609356 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by darkmanx on 21 May 2015 - 11:23 AM

For a young Chara ? Heck yes there are only two guys I wouldn't have traded Larkin and Mantha Ehrhoff wanted one more year than Kenny was willing to offer, at some point he has to understand that this team sadly isn't seen in the same light as before so to get a deal done some giving in to the demands has to happen.. Man buffalo man up and don't act like girls which didn't get their prefered shoes ..sending reporters to Toronto is just stupid.

 

Ehrhoff signed a 1 year deal, Kenny offered him multiple years why did he all of a sudden want another year from Holland again?

 

Comparing Myers to Chara is unrealistic, he's not a generational talent to predict that sort of career for.. The asking price was Tatar / Nyquist, Mantha / Larkin and a first.




#2609312 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 21 May 2015 - 09:36 AM

 

They said similar things about Dave Lewis too. How'd that work out?

 

We can find a lot of reasons to help us believe this will or won't work out, but we aren't going to really know until he gets up here and has some real NHL experience. It's a whole different experience than anything he's done before. He may be great, he may be awful. What's more likely is that he'll struggle and grow and perhaps eventually be great. In any event though, we as fans would be wise to manage our expectations so as to avoid disappointment and possibly some knee-jerk reactions if the guy stumbles a bit early on.


And believe me, I'd love to see a nice guy win and a different, more friendly methodology work, just to kill a bit of the idea that you have to be a cold, distant boss who plays mind games to be a winning coach. So I'm rooting for him, and I'm optimistic, but again, we'd do well to try to manage our expectations early on.

 

And what exactly did Dave Lewis accomplish again before becoming a coach? He retired after playing with the Wings. He went into an assistant coach behind Bowman and won 3 Stanley Cups behind Bowman. He took over the team and lost two years in the playoffs with great rosters. He then went onto Boston and got fired from them after one year due to inconsistent play.

 

Blash had coached and gained experience for over 10 years. He's won 2008 Clark Cup with Indiana Ice, He coached Western Michigan for a year also and took them to a top-four finish in the CCHA; the best in 15 years. He also won the 2013 Calder Cup. Was the 2011 USCHO Coach of the Year, and was the 2014 AHL coach of the year.

 

Please do not compare them.