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#2491901 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by darkmanx on 06 March 2014 - 07:20 PM

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#2491896 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 06 March 2014 - 07:18 PM

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#2491577 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 06 March 2014 - 07:50 AM

Sheahan probably made Jarnkrok expendable by his play this year. I believe Babcock thinks he could fill a top 6 center in future.




#2491332 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 08:22 PM

 

I don't think Eaves is mediocre.  He's a good bottom six player.  

 

But the Wings have a very similar player in Miller and Eaves contract is up at the end of the season.  It's just that it wasn't surprising of a move, and should allow him to play more in Nashville than he would have in Detroit. 

 

In terms of what the Wings gave up though I do agree he's being somewhat overlooked.  They gave up a decent roster player, a prospect, and potentially a 2nd rounder for what could be a 20 game rental.

 

I think they know he's going to sign again in Detroit and so does Poile, which is why the price was so high.

 

I could be wrong, but just have that feeling.




#2491297 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:56 PM

 

Again if mediocrity is okay with you, fine. For me I look at this team and ask two questions:

 

Can this team seriously compete for a Stanley Cup? If yes great. If not then I ask:

 

Has the team increased it's ability to compete for one in the future.

 

This trade doesn't make this team a serious cup contender, and it has hurt the team long term.

 

So much can happen in the future, no one knows. It's silly to try and think of what this organization will be in 5-7 years. You don't play for the Stanley Cup in the future, you play for it now.

 

If this team is 100% healthy, we have a great team. As someone posted the lineup earlier, that is some insane depth and talent. When we get injured next year (by when I mean when), we won't have to worry about Anderson playing 1st line anymore either.




#2491268 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:41 PM

Again, if the Wings are satisfied with being the new mid 2000s flames, and think making the playoffs is enough, they will not be able to draft a center in time to replace Z or D. It will be Nik Lidstrom all over again, where they are retired and there is no one remotely able to step into his role.

 

Hey, can I take a ride in your time machine some time ?


 

I didn't mean Jarnkrok was already elite. But if we're splurging on free agency for a top 6 center, I sure hope he'd be elite. Besides, he'd already be at least 27 years old.

 

And you admit that Jarnkrok could be a great potential #1 center. It just doesn't make sense to replace him with an 18 year old in this draft. He'd still be a long ways away and yet another uncertainty. By the time he's ready, both Datsyuk and Zetterberg could be gone.

 

I don't think Jarnkrok will ever end up being a #1 center in this league, but I do think he has the potential to be a better version of Filppula. He's already known to be a great defensive forward and an extremely hard worker. Now we gave him away for Legwand, who may not have a long term future with this team. It's a tough sell to spend money on both Weiss and Legwand next season.

 

Why ? The cap is going up 7+ million next year and we have lots of room. Legwand probably makes less then 5 million/per if he signs with the Wings.

 

If Legwand doesn't sign with the Wings, it is a disaster I agree.




#2491260 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:33 PM

 

The chances of drafting an a potential #1 center that will be NHL ready by the time the Wings need him (in the next 4 years) is exponentially lower if they do make the playoffs. Remember it took 4 years to get Jarnkrok and Sheahan to where they are today.  

 

I agree, and I am not completely sold on the deal myself. However, some are acting like we just traded Zetterberg for Legwand.

 

Until Jarnkrok plays a #1 center roll, and produces at the NHL level I don't know why people are so upset. He is a legit player, and can hold down the 2nd line when D and Z are back or even move to the 3rd. Wings will most likely be injured again next year, and it will be nice to have him to cover.




#2491242 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

This trade gives the team a shot at staying in the hunt until we get players back. If Weiss and helm return sooner rather than later, at least we can ice a good enough roster to win some games while dats is out. If dats can play in three weeks we have a solid forward group to finish off the season and hopefully go into the playoffs with.

Sure on paper we probably overpaid. But hey, I'm sure management knows something that we don't. I'm thankful that they didn't give up on the season and didn't sell the farm to do so.

Its a bummer we didn't get a top four dman, but this defense got the job done in the home stretch last year and I have faith they can do it again with a little luck with the injured players.

We got a center who can contribute on both ends of the ice. It gets a fourth line center off of our top line. Its also a player who wants to be here, and has shown in the past he can be clutch when called upon. Here is to hoping a lot of crow is eaten by seasons end!

 

This. Legwand currently has the 2nd most points on the Wings, and I know the injuries doesn't help with that but he's a good player. Also 30 points in 47 Playoff games isn't too bad either.




#2491238 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:09 PM

 

#1 Holland literally said he would not trade prospects for rentals. 

 

#2 Saying he's the best center traded right now is like being the prettiest girl at fat camp. It really doesn't mean that much. 

 

#3 This team is not a better position right now than it was in last night. They were a bubble team last night that would get bounced by Boston or Pittsburgh. After this trade they are now a bubble team that will get bounced by Boston or Pittsburgh. They might have increased their chances of being the 8th place team by a bit, but the inverse of that is they also dropped their drafting position. And all this without increasing their odds of winning a cup.

 

He also said that when Datsyuk was day to day and Helm was not injured.

 

If Weiss cannot allow us to play D and Z together, Legwand will while providing us with good defense and offense.




#2491230 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:01 PM

All doom and gloom around here.

 

I think Legwand can be a 50-65 point guy for Detroit, while playing a good two way game. Helm cannot be relied upon anymore it seems so this deal makes sense if he signs another contract with us.




#2489725 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 09:19 PM

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#2489555 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

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#2489507 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 07:40 PM

wow wtf first pairing.




#2489442 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 07:14 PM

Ericsson needs to get his head out of his ass. He's been terrible since before the Olympics.


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Arena.




#2489379 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 05:54 PM

Holland waiting for...

 

This guy obviously:

 

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