darkmanx

Red Wings are also out on Jagr. Bob Mckenzie.

It's going to be hard to rationalize with irrationally upset posters who, every year, like Leafs fans, want to sign every player at the top of the UFA list or they're going to beat their chest at their team's GM.

That extra 2.25m gives the Wings room for another player, and while Big E's game as horribly flawed, particularly in the postseason, he's also still developing, and likely would fetch more on the market. Overpaying is what people do, and while I can't 100% disagree that this was an overpayment of Big E, it could be worse.

The cap goes up, the salaries go up. Wiz is not overpaid imo, especially in comparison to Ericsson. We're lucky enough to get Datsyuk at 6.7 million, because if the cap was as high as it is now we would have paid him way more. In a couple years if the cap keeps going up thats a steal for Wiz, just like it is for Datsyuk.

I see the Red Wings have no cap space left. Damn you Kenny!  

Oh wait...

So its ok to overpay Ericsson because we have cap space but not to 'overpay' Wiz ? Sorry, but Wiz is way better than Ericsson if you haven't already noticed. Wiz at 5.5 >> Ericsson at 3.25.

There is nothing wrong with what Wiz got, hes exactly what the Wings needed. Him playing against the Wings isn't going to be a fun thing this year and CBJ are going to be a pretty good team if Mason can play like he did a couple years ago.

Is worst Red Wings signing post-lockout ?

The Detroit Red Wings have signed defenseman Jonathan Ericsson to a  three-year contract that averages $3.25 million a season, a source told  Booth Newspapers.

  This is much higher than the Red Wings' recent offer of slightly more  than $2 million per season. But as quality free-agent defensemen were  getting re-signed by their own teams, the market was thinning,  increasing Ericsson's value.

  The 6-foot-4, 220-pound Ericsson earned $1.25 million in 2010-11, his second full NHL season.

  Red Wings general manager Ken Holland couldn't be reached for  comment, but he said earlier in the day that he was making progress with  Ericsson and right wing Patrick Eaves, who were scheduled to become  unrestricted free agents at noon on Frida

how the hell did it go up 1.25 million from what Detroit offered him ? Kenny knew that was an overpayment, looks like got had a panic attack because of the other UFA getting moved.

This is what happens when your spoiled for so many years, when people don't get there way they freak out and go all bi-polar and claim its the end of the world. Burns didn't get signed by the Wings, big deal, what if Smith turns out to be better than Burns and we end up trading him to Minny ? Obviously the asking price was too high, I would trust Holland over majority of 'fans' that are pissed because they didn't get there way.

Why does Kenny Holland keep signing over-the-hill geezers. We are becoming a nursing home rather than a hockey team. Say NO to Jagr and NO to any players over 35 (unless they are named Selanne or Lidstrom.

Why take Selanne but not Jagr ? If Selanne could put up over 80 points, im pretty sure Jagr could do close to the same with Pavs feeding him. No one knows what hes capable of doing, but there is no reason to doubt he can still play the game.

Radulov, 80 pts = 20+60, runner up has 66 points, Jags is on 10 place with 53 points.
http://www.khl.ru/st...eaders/185/pts/

Jagr's stat for the last 3 years in khl is right here: http://www.khl.ru/players/13851/
2008-09: 53 pts
2009-10: 42 pts
2010-11: 50 pts

Sure, it is not exactly bad. But this is KHL. As far as I remember Radulov was nowhere near the top scoring title in the NHL. His best was somewhat around 50 points.

If, god forbid, Jagr is signed, do not expect more that 20 points out of him. If he plays with Dats or Zeta, he's going to wear them up and expect their production to go down a little.


last time I checked Hudler was still in a roster. Am I missing something here? who said he's gone once Jagr's signed?

I quit smoking 7 year ago. But there is a danger for me to start drinking heavily if Jarg signs with Red Wings

Clearly your smoking has long term effects on your brain. You sound like your going to slit your wrists with every post about Jagr.

Funny the Sedins guaranteed a win, yet they been on the ice for all 3 goals scored against.

I'd take Jagr over Hudler.

I'm getting visions of a defensive pairing being potentially reunitied...


Jiri Fischer and Chris Chelios anyone?

what about Hudler ?

No way I would take a chance at Weber and lose 4 first round draft picks.

I have no idea where you get the idea that Vancouver has bandwagon fans. Currently Vancouver has the longest sellout streak in the NHL. Given Vancouver's history of playoff failure its a wonder they as man fans as they do.

No only that, Vancouver vs. Nashville drew the highest ratings ever for a second round series on CBC.

Vancouver has plenty of diehard fans.

Its so easy to be a Wings fan. An attitude like yours makes me sick. Cheering for the Wings is like cheering for the Yankees (its fine if you're from Detroit, but if you're not from Detroit you're the definition of a bandwagon fan). 20 years straight in the playoffs and 4 cups during that time. Miss the playoffs 2 out of 3  season and comeback and talk to me about being a diehard. My guess is that Wings haven't missed the playoffs since you were a small boy and most Wings fans cannot remember what it was like to support a struggling franchise.

You got blinders on, seriously. Once a team becomes successful, they get bandwagon fans, if you really think that Canuck fans are only die hard fans your pretty slow. Sellout streaks have nothing to do with Canucks having die hard fans either, your Arena sits around 18,000+ seats, Canucks make the playoffs and have a very deep team, and Canucks are in CANADA, they will sellout regardless! Even Edmonton with their rebuilding team has a large sellout streak going. Cheering for the Wings has nothing to do with the Yankees, totally different sports with different rules including a cap that took place over 8 years ago. Wings develope and draft their talent while the Yankees purchase their talent, big difference.

To pardon your ignorance, just because the Wings made the playoffs 20 straight times and won the cup 4 times in that 20 years doesn't mean their isn't any diehard Wings fans, thats a ridiculous argument. Your team doesn't need to struggle in order to have diehard fans, in the 1970's did Montreal not have diehard fans because they won the cup 8 times ? Stupid anaolgy. Whether Wings fans remember before Yzerman was drafted or not that doesn't disclude them from being diehard Wing fans. One argument that really irks me is "You have to be from Detroit to be a Wings fan". I used to live in Detroit but because of other Job opportunities I had to leave and move to Canada, that doesn't discredit me as a Wings fan nor does it make me a 'Bandwagon' fan just because I don't live there. I have friends out here that weren't born in Detroit, but their parents were born their and moved and they grew up cheering for them because their parents did, but somehow you seem to think thats the definition of a bandwagon fan, pretty sad, stop letting ignorance get in your way.

Also, in the first we shot the puck 17 times.. 2nd period we shot the puck 9 times. We scored 3 goals in the first, we scored 0 in the second. I believe I found a trend.. maybe just maybe shooting more pucks = more goals...