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#2491297 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:56 PM


Again if mediocrity is okay with you, fine. For me I look at this team and ask two questions:


Can this team seriously compete for a Stanley Cup? If yes great. If not then I ask:


Has the team increased it's ability to compete for one in the future.


This trade doesn't make this team a serious cup contender, and it has hurt the team long term.


So much can happen in the future, no one knows. It's silly to try and think of what this organization will be in 5-7 years. You don't play for the Stanley Cup in the future, you play for it now.


If this team is 100% healthy, we have a great team. As someone posted the lineup earlier, that is some insane depth and talent. When we get injured next year (by when I mean when), we won't have to worry about Anderson playing 1st line anymore either.

#2491268 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:41 PM

Again, if the Wings are satisfied with being the new mid 2000s flames, and think making the playoffs is enough, they will not be able to draft a center in time to replace Z or D. It will be Nik Lidstrom all over again, where they are retired and there is no one remotely able to step into his role.


Hey, can I take a ride in your time machine some time ?


I didn't mean Jarnkrok was already elite. But if we're splurging on free agency for a top 6 center, I sure hope he'd be elite. Besides, he'd already be at least 27 years old.


And you admit that Jarnkrok could be a great potential #1 center. It just doesn't make sense to replace him with an 18 year old in this draft. He'd still be a long ways away and yet another uncertainty. By the time he's ready, both Datsyuk and Zetterberg could be gone.


I don't think Jarnkrok will ever end up being a #1 center in this league, but I do think he has the potential to be a better version of Filppula. He's already known to be a great defensive forward and an extremely hard worker. Now we gave him away for Legwand, who may not have a long term future with this team. It's a tough sell to spend money on both Weiss and Legwand next season.


Why ? The cap is going up 7+ million next year and we have lots of room. Legwand probably makes less then 5 million/per if he signs with the Wings.


If Legwand doesn't sign with the Wings, it is a disaster I agree.

#2491260 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:33 PM


The chances of drafting an a potential #1 center that will be NHL ready by the time the Wings need him (in the next 4 years) is exponentially lower if they do make the playoffs. Remember it took 4 years to get Jarnkrok and Sheahan to where they are today.  


I agree, and I am not completely sold on the deal myself. However, some are acting like we just traded Zetterberg for Legwand.


Until Jarnkrok plays a #1 center roll, and produces at the NHL level I don't know why people are so upset. He is a legit player, and can hold down the 2nd line when D and Z are back or even move to the 3rd. Wings will most likely be injured again next year, and it will be nice to have him to cover.

#2491242 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:12 PM

This trade gives the team a shot at staying in the hunt until we get players back. If Weiss and helm return sooner rather than later, at least we can ice a good enough roster to win some games while dats is out. If dats can play in three weeks we have a solid forward group to finish off the season and hopefully go into the playoffs with.

Sure on paper we probably overpaid. But hey, I'm sure management knows something that we don't. I'm thankful that they didn't give up on the season and didn't sell the farm to do so.

Its a bummer we didn't get a top four dman, but this defense got the job done in the home stretch last year and I have faith they can do it again with a little luck with the injured players.

We got a center who can contribute on both ends of the ice. It gets a fourth line center off of our top line. Its also a player who wants to be here, and has shown in the past he can be clutch when called upon. Here is to hoping a lot of crow is eaten by seasons end!


This. Legwand currently has the 2nd most points on the Wings, and I know the injuries doesn't help with that but he's a good player. Also 30 points in 47 Playoff games isn't too bad either.

#2491238 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:09 PM


#1 Holland literally said he would not trade prospects for rentals. 


#2 Saying he's the best center traded right now is like being the prettiest girl at fat camp. It really doesn't mean that much. 


#3 This team is not a better position right now than it was in last night. They were a bubble team last night that would get bounced by Boston or Pittsburgh. After this trade they are now a bubble team that will get bounced by Boston or Pittsburgh. They might have increased their chances of being the 8th place team by a bit, but the inverse of that is they also dropped their drafting position. And all this without increasing their odds of winning a cup.


He also said that when Datsyuk was day to day and Helm was not injured.


If Weiss cannot allow us to play D and Z together, Legwand will while providing us with good defense and offense.

#2491230 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by darkmanx on 05 March 2014 - 07:01 PM

All doom and gloom around here.


I think Legwand can be a 50-65 point guy for Detroit, while playing a good two way game. Helm cannot be relied upon anymore it seems so this deal makes sense if he signs another contract with us.

#2489725 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 09:19 PM


#2489555 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 08:13 PM


#2489507 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 07:40 PM

wow wtf first pairing.

#2489442 3/4 GDT: Red Wings at Devils

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 07:14 PM

Ericsson needs to get his head out of his ass. He's been terrible since before the Olympics.

We Like Our Team...



#2489379 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by darkmanx on 04 March 2014 - 05:54 PM

Holland waiting for...


This guy obviously:



#2488908 Trade Deadline Prediction Time

Posted by darkmanx on 03 March 2014 - 07:04 PM

I honestly don't think that Holland has the option to stand pat or kick tires. We are really close to not making the playoffs for the 1st time in 23 years. dats is pkaying on 1 leg, Z is done for the year and Weiss....well, you know what I am saying.
I truly believe that he will make a huge push for Edler or Erhoff.
We need that crisp first pass. We need to activate the D and get them involved without playing too risky. On the integrity of this franchise, I can't believe that he won't give up a 1st rounder, a roster player and a prospect to give this team a chance to make a run.
If he doesn't, I really will have lost all faith in the guy.


It takes two to tango. Gillis will want too much for Edler, just like he did Luongo. Buffalo will want too much for Ehrhoff knowing they will be facing him for years to come in the same division, not to mention they want young, talented players (Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco) and draft picks.


If what I am hearing from Sportsnet about Datsyuk missing quite a bit of time it would not be wise to trade those kids for anything. Let the kids play, let's see what they can do. They have played amazing the past two games and are obviously up for the challenge to keep the streak alive.


I leave you with a quote from Tatar after the Olympics.



- One for my dad. I am so glad I could be a part of Slovak Olympic team. It was a great experience and I have many grat memories from Sochi. We didn’t have our best tournament and we are all disappointed as we expected more. Once you are on the top and once you are on the bottom. It is a sport. I am in Detroit already and I am enjoying my couple days off and getting ready to finish the season well. The upcoming schedule looks scary and it is going to be difficult as we have many games in a short period of time and our key players are injured. It is going to be hard without Henrik (40) but I believe we can do it. It would not be good if the Red Wings didn’t get in the playoffs. Keep your fingers crossed, I believe we can do it. Thank you for standing next to us and cheering for us even though it wasn’t ideal at the Olympics.

#2488489 Naming the New Arena

Posted by darkmanx on 02 March 2014 - 04:04 AM

The "We Like Our Team Arena"

#2487957 Why did Franzen get 10 min game misconduct?

Posted by darkmanx on 28 February 2014 - 06:28 PM

It's obvious he was protecting him from further injury. He, like all of us want more curly fries this season.

#2487773 2/27 GDT : Red Wings 6 at Senators 1, Franzen w/Hat Trick

Posted by darkmanx on 28 February 2014 - 10:37 AM

So anyone else think that Jurco has locked down his spot on the big club next season already?  Personally, I would rather see some of the prospects out of waiver eligibility next season be exposed (i.e. Callahan, Ferraro, Almquist) than have him start the season in GR.


Yep. Watching him yesterday I was thinking to myself, wow wait until this kid has a couple years experience in the NHL, he's going to be "real good" for us. He's big, fast, strong, hits, wicked shot, good stick handling, good vision.