Posted by DickieDunn
on 23 January 2016 - 02:32 PM
Get Helm off a scoring line. I don't care who you put there. Jurco and Pulk haven't been lighting it up, but at least they've scored in the AHL. Hell, even Glendening would be better. Just ANYONE but Helm.
Posted by DickieDunn
on 23 January 2016 - 02:28 PM
guess nobody really wants our scrubs then...here is the sad thing, we've been hindering the young players by playing guys in our NHL roster that nobody else in the NHL would even take for free...why have we been mediocre again?
Every team has guys who would clear waivers. The Wings aren't unique here.
What I do not get though is why it's taking so long for Stamkos/Yzerman to get a long-term deal done?
Was Stamkos, and his agent waiting to see what Kopitar got?
Me thinks if everything was grand in sunny Florida - a deal would've been done by now...The chances of Holland swinging a trade is still unlikely - just my 2 cents.
Its still quite possible Stamkos bolts (see what I did there) in the offseason once he's a free agent. I mean the guy has liked multiple tweets asking if he should play in Toronto, and apparently did some batting practice with the Jays, too. At the very least I think its worth his time to see if the Leafs make him a solid offer in June and go from there, because he's clearly interested in playing for them despite how many times he tries to convince us it was his pocket that liked those tweets.
for the record, wasn't in referrence to you. I understand what you are saying and your post added substance to the topic. I here ya on the Lucic, people were just saying maybe since they just gave Kopitar $10M a year, maybe they try to trade off Lucic if they fear they cannot re-sign him... I was just using his name as an example of go big or don't go. If we were to give up valuable assets, it would have to be for someone with his type of impact, if we just cannot part with said pieces, then don't waste time by just getting a role player or utility guy....we need to go big, or just cut ties with replaceable players and bring the kids up to continue to reload.
Wait, so you're saying that playing what if games adds substance to the topic? OK
To get you have to be willing to give. If you're only willing to part with the spare parts, you're not going to get a big scoring winger, or a top-tier defenseman.If you're not willing to combine quality player(s), quality prospect(s), and pick(s)... you're not getting Drouin, Byfuglien, Stamkos, Hall, etc.
Ladd would cost less. Yandle would cost less. Even then, people will be mad at what even Ladd or Yandle would cost.
People will be disappointed if those are our deadline acquisitions. People will be mad if Holland stands pat.
Holland can't make all the people happy all of the time.
exactly, my point being (even though I would like to have Drouin and Rychel for the future) my point is we need a top sniper and a top defender, which would cost a ton. But there's really no use in overpaying for someone who is not top 3 0 or top 2 D. We don't need depth, we need a star. I would like to see what it would cost for Lucic, I do believe, despite his reputation, he is exactly what could help us out. Same with Byfuglien. I like Ladd, always have (minus the fact he was a Hawk.) but I am not sure he fills that top scorer role, we have plenty of 2nd and 3rd liners, we need a Lucic, Stamkos, Hall type player up front, and a Byfuglien, Yandle-ish player in the back.
There's always the ouotside chance that a less expensive player may help, like Edler or Myers, but I say go big or stick with your guns and just get rid of the fat like Ericsson, Andersson amongst a few others....and promote from within, XO, Jensen, AA, Mantha....
LA is 1st in their division and Lucic is playing well there. Not sure why anyone would think he is available.
I'm just saying, you acquire Byfuglien, he sews up the toughness on the top end of the D PLUS you can plant him in front of the net on the PP unit, then put Green back there with his shot and the PP has got to get better! (unless of course Byf gets hit in the PP, then ouch! )
Byfuglien cannot be acquired for what you are willing to give up. You should prepare yourself for that reality.