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#2614941 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 17 June 2015 - 01:03 PM

 

The Wings have one legit high end center prospect in Larkin.  I see AA as more of a winger with his skill set.  Defense is a need too, but the Oilers are loaded with top flight young forwards and could move one.  I don't see any young high end defensemen available.

 

And by the time Datsyuk and Z retire who knows who they could have drafted by then or signed in FA. What if Mantha turns out better then Draisaitl because there is no proof he will be a number one center either. He's just as unknown as Mantha at this point.




#2614861 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 16 June 2015 - 08:07 PM

Sheahan, Mantha, Ouellet, and the Wings first for Drasaitil and their second

 

No thanks.

 

We need defense, not to destroy our forward depth while we're at it.




#2614551 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 15 June 2015 - 06:55 PM

Where did I say holland added a player cause he's friends with a gm? Geez ... I was here sayin we should get cole cause he'd be a good fit and shouldn't cost as much since he was a older ufa and not an elite guy

I don't think I was overvalued jarnkrok at the time ... He was considered our number 1 prospect for along time and and I think he was even at the time of the trade? Not sure

Made top nhl prospect lists , praised by andersen and other scouts ... And we give him up along with a 2nd for david legwand of all people?

When the trade happened wings organization basically said he was a bust so we wouldn't be pissed off ...anyways it's far too soon to say he's gonna be a bust , I think at the least he's gonna be a 3rd line guy ... We'll see

I'm over it cause I see a lot of potential coming up .... And I'd much rather give up Gus or Tatar than a mantha in a deal

 

Wings don't make the playoffs without that trade. Legwand and Mule went on a tear together and won us a bunch of games.

 

To you that may not be important, unfortunately you don't run the team and it matters to them.




#2614426 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 15 June 2015 - 06:36 AM

I don't know , somehow I got a feeling cause it was Nill and he and holland are good friends, he somehow convinced holland to get more than he should of ... I Just don't like giving up good assets for guys who have brought nothing to help the team ... Anyways it's over now and I hope he thinks twice before trading mantha or someone else of value before he makes a deal


Man that list of guys you named that's what I'm talking about ... seeing that list ... Just brutal

As for kessel I'm not really worried about him , just hope and think we won't give up on mantha just yet , we got a ton of good kids upfront , we need to draft d's this year ... If we have 6picks I'd say 4-5 gotta be d's

 

Maybe in hindsight, but Cole would have been a difference maker for us in the playoffs. Also, let's not pretend Holland added players in just because there friends, that's just ridiculous.

 

You value prospects too highly, they really aren't worth anything unless you have a top 10 pick or until they prove themselves. You said Wings were going to regret Jarnkrok yet I just looked at his stats and we aren't missing anything.




#2614253 Wings open to trading Mantha and/or their 1st Round Pick

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 13 June 2015 - 09:41 PM

Cox is really not a reliable source. Would like to see a better source report this, like MacKenzie first.




#2613601 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 09 June 2015 - 06:31 AM

 

I'd love to agree but I just can't. 

 

Yes, we probably could and should have beaten Tampa, but they've really progressed a lot since the Detroit series, and have played much better to get to where they are. I'm dubious about Detroit getting over the line against any of Montreal, New York or Chicago.

 

Edit: And FWIW - I'm still supremely confident the Bolts will take the Cup with much less trouble than everyone thinks.

 

So only Tampa can get better as the playoffs go along?

 

Also, what makes you think Detroit didn't have any part in shutting down Tampa instead of Tampa just not playing well at the beginning of the playoffs? If I remember Detroit took out Anaheim and almost Chicago a couple years ago and we heard the same thing then.

 

We have two elite two way players, maybe just maybe that had something to do with containing most of Tampa's offense.




#2613415 What changes do you think we'll see with Blashill?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 07 June 2015 - 12:06 PM

Are you the new coach? Do you know that Mrazek will be the back-up this year? Do you know that Weiss will be a regular? I can play this game too.

 

Exactly my point. Neither of us know so let's not pretend to know.




#2613404 What changes do you think we'll see with Blashill?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 07 June 2015 - 08:18 AM

A back up goalie making over 5 mil a year and a forward making 5 mil who can't crack the line-up most games. Hmmm....what do you call it? Amazing depth?

 

Are you the new coach? Do you know Howard will be the backup?

 

Will you not be playing Weiss properly this year either ?

 

I reserve my opinions when I see what Blashill does before assuming we have "Dead Cap Space".




#2613172 What changes do you think we'll see with Blashill?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 04 June 2015 - 05:15 PM

 
I agree with you, but only to a point. Sure things might be a little different.  But if the new coaches don't look at what our PP did successfully last year, with roughly the same personnel, (and try to recreate that success) then they're dangerously stupid and should immediately be fired. 
 
If you had the second best PP a year ago, and you had almost the exact same personnel, the largely the same system, most of the same coaches, and access to all the technical information and game footage a person could ask for, would you completely scrap everything and start from scratch?
 
Neither would anybody else.  Surely Blash is smart enough to build of past successes, and try to improve upon past failures.  Reinventing the wheel would just be dumb. The powerplay was our biggest success last season.  I wouldn't expect too much to change in that regard, unless of course, it begins to struggle. 


I just hope they get rid of the stupid no look drop pass that is way too predictable.


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#2613170 Free agents this off season

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 04 June 2015 - 05:07 PM

 
When was the last time a top 5 pick was actually traded heading into the draft?


Last I remember was the Sedins


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#2613145 What changes do you think we'll see with Blashill?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 04 June 2015 - 01:59 PM

Well for one we should be waiting to see what happens in Free Agency. We might get some right handed dmen and that will change the PP a lot.

 

We also lost our PP coach to Toronto, so bringing up last years numbers doesn't translate to this year as the entire philosophy changes and Smith very well could be on the PP.




#2613062 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 03 June 2015 - 09:44 PM

Game

 

Series




#2610419 At what point does the GM deserve credit/blame?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 26 May 2015 - 05:17 PM

Ken Holland has been with the organization for 30 years.  18 of which he's been the GM.  He started as as scout, then the director of scouting, then the assistant GM, then the co-GM, and then the full GM.  It's not a coincidence that he was hired just prior to the Wings beginning an epic playoff streak. 
 
To try and dismiss his contributions to the organization as anything less than profound would be an absolutely gross understatement.  He's been more important to this team's success then any other individual. 
 
If you hire a GM from outside the organization, you can argue he's riding coattails.  But it's a little hard to say that about a guy who's been a member of the Red Wings longer than Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom. 
 
To a lesser extent, this is true of Stan Bowman as well.  Sure Tallon was the GM before him.  But he started with Chicago in 2001 when they were a garbage team.  Unless he was just standing around playing with himself for 8 years he likely contributed to their assent.  Is he entirely responsible?  No.  But he's contributed from the bottom up. 
 
Yzerman doesn't deserve much credit for that first conference finals appearance as he had just come in from outside the organization and had been with the team for less than a year.  But he deserves credit for every single other success they've had since. 


People will always s*** on Holland and it's pretty sad. No one really knows what we have had the last 20 years until it's gone. He has an eye for talent and continues to pick the correct draft picks year after year. I mean Larkin could have probably been picked top 5 last year at the pace he's at right now. In my opinion he's a huge steal for us.


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#2609975 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 24 May 2015 - 06:45 PM

Someone pm me the stream please?

 

Check your PM


I'm not sure of any free streams. I use hockeystreams.com, which I pay for and you can also pay for a stream on AHLlive...

 

Hockeystreams FTW!




#2609934 All Purpose Grand Rapids Griffins Thread

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 24 May 2015 - 11:11 AM

 

Blashill said the appeal of grouping Larkin with Athanasiou is that "both are fast. And then if we add Anthony, he can keep up with those guys, and he adds size."

 

AA - Larkin - Mantha

 

Excited to see this tonight.