Boston fired their gm and there's a very good chance they will fire their coach too. Just making the playoffs isn't good enough for them.
The penguins fired their gm and coach last year for underachieving and let's not forget they have won the cup more recently than us as well as making it past the second round more recently than us.
The Kings just won a cup last year so their situation isn't really comparable. They are allowed a free pass. But I bet if they miss the post season again next year there will be another gm and head coach vacancy.
The point is other franchises don't accept making the playoffs as good enough. We shouldn't either. Over half the teams make the playoffs. Just making it means you're little better than average.
We're 6 years removed now from a deep post season run. Think about where you were 6 years ago and how much has changed since then. It's a long time. And it's an eternity in sports.
Holland had made plenty of great moves yes. But he's also made plenty of bad ones also and he deserves a good amount of the blame for our post season failures since after all it's his job to run the team and everyone ultimately answered to him. Does that mean we fire him now? No. But the seat should start to be heating up at this point. You only get so many free passes.
There is so much wrong in this post, I won't even bother.
I will leave this though. Comparing a team that made the playoffs 24 years in a row, never picking above 15th in a quarter of a century to any other team in the Playoffs is beyond pathetic, they all would trade positions in a heartbeat.
Wings took Tampa to 7 games this year, and should have really won the series. They would have beat Montreal as well. Wings really sucked last year, but we were missing Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Ericsson plus it was the kids first playoffs. The year before that we took out Anaheim in 7 games, then we went on a took Chicago to 7 games OT.
In case you didn't notice, we are still a team that every single team does not want to play in the playoffs when we have all our players. Lastly I will leave this.
24 - Red Wings (Best pick, 15th overall last year)
8 - Pittsburgh (4 top 5 picks in the last 8 years, including 2 1st overalls)
I would take a Cup this year if it meant missing the playoffs next year.
Versus making the playoffs both years and losing each time in the first round.
I think anyone would take a cup and miss the playoffs.
I'm just saying, the parity of the league shows you can win a cup one year, then miss the playoffs the next. Or you can finish the season as the "best regular season team" (Bruins) but the next year miss the playoffs. Detroit isn't a dominant Hockey team anymore, and neither are the other 29 teams.
The only constant is Detroit still continues to make the playoffs while all 29 other teams miss them - which in it's own regard is highly impressive.
Exactly. No one knew s*** about Datsyuk in 2002 other than he had great hands. If you had told me after the cup run in 02 that Datsyuk would go on to score almost 100 points in a season and win a bazillion Selkes I wouldn't have believed it.
Hell, Holland nearly traded him for Scott Gomez.
Half the fanbase wanted it as well which is actually hilarious.
Yes first round exists happen, but it's what, 4 out of the last 5 years for us now? That can't be shrugged off by saying "it happens. Someone gets to win and someone gets to lose".
It's very clear that we're lacking some punch to finish teams off in a 7 game series. We can compete, but as of late we've been coming up short, and it's happening far too often for my liking.
You know next year Boston is going to be better, just another team in the east that we'll have to fight with for a playoff spot. Something needs to be done.
Boston is in cap hell and Chara is basically done. I highly doubt they will be any better then they were this year.
We took Tampa to game 7 (half the forum was saying Tampa in 4), and should have really won the series. I don't look at this year as a complete failure like some other have said. Franzen, and Cole could have really helped. Kronwall could have helped the last game as well.
He lost 3 of his top 4 d-men over the course of a year.
I think he deserves some props for keeping us competive through that.
Sadly, I can't wait until we miss the playoffs, half the users here will be gone.
The beginning of this series half the forum was saying Tampa in 4 or 5, we go 7 games and "Holland sucks" "Holland builds soft teams".
Do you see half the forum members trade offers? They are pathetic. They cater only to the Wings needs and doesn't meet any needs for the other teams. It just shows people don't understand how a GM works, or how to gauge trade value / signings.
I wish they threw him out yesterday. They probably would have accepted that as the game suspension. Either way, Weber can slam Z's head into the boards with full intent but get away with it. This leagues "justice" system is a joke.