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#2624218 Curtis Glencross regrets taking hometown discount

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 31 August 2015 - 06:58 AM

I've used these things just as an example between giving and not giving a discount. But you are hitting the nail on the head here what happens after career? that's why it's important to cash in while they can and not give discounts.

ideally this stuff should be paid off while receiving the big bucks, sure there are maintenance and other costs but that is nothing compared to the huge price tag.

Also most players aren't throwing money around like crazy they drive nice SUVs, buy nice condos and houses things everyone else would do but like always more often than not more is better. X Cross has seen the ugly side of the business now and is talking about what could have been which is not only his right but a smart thing to do and it should be a warning for other young player to not give discounts .

People here called me crazy after I've said that Toews could have gotten even more on the open market and it's exactly situations like this that should have players asking for as much as they can get.

27 old Stamkos is worth 100 million of he signs for something like 80 he would leave 20 million on the table that's a freaking lot and all he would receive as a thank you ... is another lockout and a team that can't wait to get rid of him when he's in his mid 30s..


You clearly didn't read what I wrote, if player x gets more money, they tend to spend to that lifestyle which is even worse then if you make a little less because when it's over you got all those costs you can't afford anymore. It happens all the time it just doesn't go public, you can read hundreds of stories on google of this in the last decade. I am not saying every player does it, but I don't want to see any athlete / celeb complaining about making millions it's really pathetic.


Cars and Yacht's depreciate, the maintenance costs will cost more then the actual car by the end of it and the maintenance costs are enough to drop your bank account quickly. The fenders on Bugatti's are valued over 60,000 alone. When you have to sell the car because you can't afford it then you just threw over a million dollars out the window, same goes for the price of a Yacht.


Toews isn't even worth the money he's making. Ask yourself this question, Bergeron at 6.8 million or Toews at 10.8 million? 29/30 GM's take Bergeron's contract since he's essentially the same player but better defensively with 4 million dollar savings.

#2624209 Curtis Glencross regrets taking hometown discount

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 30 August 2015 - 10:22 PM

good god all these stupid "athletes shouldn't complain stuff" is ridiculous. Everyone and I even spell it big EVERYONE would prefer more money over less.

X Cross did them a favor and now he feels like he got the worst end of it: a lot less money than he could have gotten and shown absolutely no loyalty by his former club.

And the difference between 10 and 16 million is still huge, we are talking about another nice beach house , a very nice Yacht, Bugatti Veron Super Sport here and nobody in his right mind would say no to that.

The same people who are saying that athletes shouldn't complain are often the same ones siding with the owners in lockouts..

The guy was asked and he gave an honest an very believable answer.


People are saying they should not be so concerned with money like it means everything. After there career, who pays for the big Yacht's and Bugatti's. That is the reason a large percent of athletes go broke, they demand so much money and fall into that lifestyle that when it's over they go broke. Be happy with what you have and the fact you play a sport you love, your more fortunate then 90% of the people on earth.

#2624194 Curtis Glencross regrets taking hometown discount

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 30 August 2015 - 06:23 PM

Heaven forbid they should have to get regular jobs with us normies


and us math freaks

#2623980 2015 Detroit Tigers/MLB Baseball thread

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 28 August 2015 - 07:20 AM


#2623824 Kings sign Ehrhoff to 1 year deal

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 24 August 2015 - 09:58 PM

Well, he did actually sign a long term contract when he had chance and that didn't turn out too well. H's still collecting 850 000 a year from the Sabres for the next 11 years so he's actually doing pretty well financially.


I see these deals as a player on the backside of his career trying to win a cup. He could have gotten more years or money elsewhere. Clearly he's taken a cut the past 2 years to be with contending teams.


Ahh yes. I forgot he was bought out. Makes sense then.

#2623486 Help. Seeking DRW management team contact

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 19 August 2015 - 10:23 AM


Hockey analytics is still in it's infancy. It's not really a thing at the minor leagues level from what I can tell. There isn't as much dedication to tracking... Though I am having conversations with another company that isn't directly affiliated with any one team.


More and more NHL teams are coming around to seeing what they can get out of data, so I would imagine there's room for someone like me in a few places in the league right now. The only thing I ever heard relating to the Red Wings and analytics was Babcocks interest in it about a year ago. So I may be going up the wrong tree here, but it's my favourite tree.


Hockey analytics will be the future, whether anyone likes it not; you are going into the right field. I am not saying people need to use them, and disregard watching players but it measures a player in ways that you cannot by using your own eyes. I use them religiously in Baseball and I can measure a players ability offensively and defensively just by looking at the numbers instead of having to watching a 3-4 hour game on a daily basis for 162 days of the year.


I believe all sports will eventually have analytics in some capacity, although it's nothing new.


For example in 1960 this was written by GM Joe Brown when Roberto Clemente asked for a raise. Joe was using analytics to illustrate why he didn't deserve one.



#2622961 Jurco Showing Off The Hands

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 12 August 2015 - 11:43 AM

Ah gotcha :P it was a little bit.. it was kind of just a general comment too though. a lot of people I know are too harsh on jurco too early.

I know the large amount of forwards on the roster contributes to his role last year but we haven't seen even close to the best version of jurco that we will imo


I love me some Jurco, no issues for me.

#2622953 Best American forward in the nhl?

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 12 August 2015 - 06:54 AM

Michigan is the state of hockey.


Detroit vs Everybody!

#2622554 2015 Detroit Tigers/MLB Baseball thread

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 08 August 2015 - 09:43 PM

I don't know what was going on, but mCann and iglesias were about to throw punches at eachother.
losing does not make for a good atmosphere,


David Price @DAVIDprice14

James McCann WILL have a C on his chest like Varitek did...he cares and he is a leader!! He will do what needs to be done...

#2622282 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 04 August 2015 - 08:10 PM

@RedWingsFeed: Comparing Illitch's Decision to Release Dave Dombrowski to Red Wings Reality: Well, http://t.co/5ZKIAfHdEdvia @wingingitmotown #RedWings


I don't agree with that article, I think they are two totally different situations. Dombrowski clearly wanted to move on after he made the moves at the deadline, I am almost 100% certain he is coming to Toronto to take over for Paul Beeston as the President of the Blue Jays. Holland unless he wants to move on or retire I believe he will be re-signed. I don't really see any other GM doing what he has done the last two decades and to maintain it is incredible.

#2622146 Then and Now: Tatar vs Hudler

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 03 August 2015 - 11:19 AM

Tatar is similar to Hudler, but a bit bigger and quite a bit faster.  Hudler puts up more points now, but a lot of that is a reflection of his roles with the Flames.


Where is eva ? We need him to confirm this.

#2621969 Voracek gets rich! over 8mil per

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 31 July 2015 - 06:55 PM


I'm not going into the nerd-stats because I'm not interested in them if you trust them fine I don't. I've said countless times that OV is the better goalscorer but OVERALL I'd take Toews just look at the Selke nominations for the best two-way-player who many does OV have ? Yes 0 nominations Toews doesn't only have nominations he has also won one. So if you want to build your team around a one dimenionsal (but obviously elite at that) player fine, I'd trust my gut and take an excellent two-way-player who has shown that he can will himself and his team to a cup(s).


Since your bringing up Toews selke's, and great two way play. Let's see if the gap is really that close for the defensive argument you are clinging to.


Let's compare the resumes to show how Toews all around play doesn't account for Ovi's all around play.



1 Selke
1 Conn Smythe


Oh yea, that 1 selke really shows Toews is soo great defensively. He is absolutely just miles above everyone else, especially Ovi. He has a whopping 1 more Selke after all. Like I said before, are you saying Bergeron is better then Toews?


2005-06 NHL Calder Memorial Trophy
2007-08 NHL Art Ross Trophy
2007-08 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy
2007-08 NHL Maurice Richard Trophy
2007-08 NHL Ted Lindsay Award
2008-09 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy
2008-09 NHL Maurice Richard Trophy
2008-09 NHL Ted Lindsay Award
2009-10 NHL Ted Lindsay Award
2012-13 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy
2012-13 NHL Maurice Richard Trophy
2013-14 NHL Maurice Richard Trophy
2014-15 NHL Maurice Richard Trophy


Oh yea, let me also mention one of these players is a generational talent, the other is just a very good player.

#2621906 Voracek gets rich! over 8mil per

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 31 July 2015 - 09:45 AM

I mean he's a point per game player. That's pretty much what they go for now. Not like he got Toews Kane money. Freaking ROR got 7.5 per.


Exactly. Not a bad deal at all especially when you compare his contract with the horrible contracts by Kane and Toews.

#2621886 Jonathan Quick on snipers, including Datsyuk

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 30 July 2015 - 08:39 PM

This is one of my fav goals by Datsyuk. The way Quick looks back at who the hell shot it sums up this article perfectly.


#2621568 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 25 July 2015 - 03:41 PM

I'm not saying they're not good or useful. I'm saying that telling someone that "stats overrule their opinion" may not always be accurate and you should rely on both. As the season wore on, we got worse defensively. I think the stats if broken down by month would probably show that and as an average we may have been a top 10 defensive team. But we weren't a top ten defensive team all year last year. We went from really good to pretty bad, so a season long average doesn't tell the whole story. That's all I'm saying.


Well with analytics you can break anything down you want, that's the point of stats. You can say the same about any other team, at the end of the year we "Averaged" a certain number just like everyone else. Over 82 games we were absolutely a top 10 defensive team.


I do hold stats to a higher value then someone scouting. When someone is scouting a player, it's a small sample size since they don't scout all 82 games. Analytics allow you to have the numbers in front of you and measure performance in which you cannot by watching. When making the hard decisions I would use analytics over what someone saw with there eye. Sorry if that bothers you, but it's my opinion.