Jump to content

RedWingsin2011's Photo


Member Since 21 Jun 2010
Offline Last Active Jul 11 2016 05:33 PM

#2682921 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 11 July 2016 - 05:30 PM

Datsyuk left in the middle of his contract. If you're using Sergei leaving to Anaheim as a free agent to go to Anaheim as a reason to not have his jersey retired, you should not be saying datsyuk will have his retired. He bolted to Russia without playing out his contract.

He didn't leave in the "middle" of the deal. It had one year left on a 3 year deal. And he was only leaving to be back with his family (in a different Country and league), at basically the tail end of his playing career.


Fedorov's departure isn't even comparable. He left us for another NHL team, left for less money than we offered him. And worst of all left for the Ducks who were one of our biggest rivals at the time (they had just swept us out of the playoffs the season before). And then had to play against us as the enemy 4 times a year. And on top of all that was still basically in his prime at the time. Much worse than Datsyuk's scenario. And that's likely why we'll never see #91 in the rafters.

#2681139 Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 01 July 2016 - 11:16 AM

Ok the term is too long. No doubt about it. But that cap hit is actually pretty reasonable. Just a few days ago I read he wanted in the neighborhood of 6.5 mill. The guy brings a lot to the table. Good faceoff guy, can set guys up and score, and most importantly is also a good defensive forward.

#2666839 Free Press: Pavel Datsyuk to return to Russia following Playoffs

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 10 April 2016 - 01:58 PM

From what I've read, the contract cap hit shouldn't be a problem. After Datsyuk officially leaves, Holland will likely trade the contract to the Coyotes, which will actuallly save Pheonix about 600k. In turn, the Wings would receive Pronger's contract. Then we would use Pronger's LTIR status. Which wouldn't count any $ against the cap. 


So really, the only downfall to all of this, is losing an amazing player sooner than we thought we would. But realistically, even if he had no desire to return home, we wouldn't have had him for too much longer anyways age-wise.


Hopefully we can make a nice run and maybe, just maybe, if Jimmy can play the way he did against Philly, maybe he can hoist the Cup one last time (not likely, but there's always a chance). And we all know #13 will be hanging in the rafters soon. Also, just like all our other Red Wings legends, he'll always be a Red Wing. And we'll continue to see him for years to come at various Detroit related events, signings, and future alumni games.


Here's to a hall of fame career Pavel! It's been a pleasure to watch you take the torch that was passed by the likes of Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Fedorov (and other Wings legends). Thankfully we have so many up and coming young stars that Pavel (and Hank, whenever he hangs em up) will in turn pass the torch to. 


We are so lucky to be fans of the best organization in sports. That always (and I do mean always) puts competitive teams out there year after year, decade after decade. Cheers!  :clap:

#2525338 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 23 June 2014 - 05:44 PM

Meh, he was a good signing last season, but the older he gets, the riskier it gets to bring him back.  He's going to be turning 42 years old in December...how many forwards are still effective at that age?  I wouldn't go more than $3 million and even that has plenty of risk....the problem with building a team with all these old players as Holland likes to do, is that old players are more injury prone.  

If gets injured then Mantha or Pulkkinen play. That's doesn't sound like too big a risk to me. Holland's not building a team with "all these old players." We'll actually be a pretty young team next year.

#2525326 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 23 June 2014 - 05:04 PM

Seriously, why are so many people down on the fact that Alfie is potentially returning? Yes he's old, but he's still good, and he won't cost us anything (minus some cap room). If he stays healthy for the entire year he's practically good for 20 goals 

#2525310 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 23 June 2014 - 04:33 PM

According to Helene St. James Twitter:


Helene St. James @HeleneStJames 56s

Daniel Alfredsson has told #RedWings he wants to play another season. Sides will talk again later this week.



Really glad to hear it! Alfie showed that he's still a productive player and leader. Hopefully he'll hoist the Cup before he eventually calls it quits.

#2494245 Detroit D performance

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 11 March 2014 - 02:17 PM


I think the fact that you're comparing scoring between Ericsson and Quincey just shows the ridiculousness of this argument. 


It should be obvious at this point that neither player is relied on for the offensive production so I'm not sure why we're using that as a measuring point for their value to the team.

It's a measuring point for Quincey because that's suppose to be the type of D-man he is. He's never been a shut-down or stay-at-home defenseman. So if he's bringing almost no offense to the table, he better be stepping it up big time on the defensive end. And so far he has barely showed up on the scoresheet and has been mediocre on the defensive end at best. If he were a high-level shut-down defenseman you would definitely have a point. But he's not (or even close to it). And the almost every game bonehead penalties seem to be the most consistent part of his game. So basically that's why people find it laughable that he is our 2nd highest paid D-man, and makes more $ than Jonathan Ericsson.

#2494219 Detroit D performance

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 March 2014 - 11:27 AM

As hard as I am on Kindl I always forget about his contract, which actually makes it worse.  $2.4 million through 2017 for a guy who can't crack the lineup half the time.  


I'm surprised he's not the subject of more buyout discussion. 

#2485945 USA-Canada Thread

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 21 February 2014 - 04:06 PM

Ya ok, the US fans were bragging for the last few weeks relentlessly about how they were winning the gold this year, and Canada has no chance and blah blah blah, I'm just doing my due diligence now.

Absolutely NO ONE said that Canada "had no chance." In fact, most of us said that they had every chance in the world. Just that some of us were confident that team USA had enough to bring home the Gold (especially the way the tourney had been going). But of course we can't be confident in a gold without it somehow being viewed as a personal attack to certain Canadian fans here. NOW GO SWEDEN FOR THE GOLD!!!

#2484924 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 18 February 2014 - 04:43 PM

Lol of course... USA has a pretty easy matchup against Czech, they'll be pretty tired on top of that. USA should have absolutely no problem rolling past them

Of course what? The Czechs are a much more formidable opponent than Slovenia or Latvia. Any team with several NHL players will be a tough test. Is there really any question about that? I should be the one saying "of course." Of course some Canadian would try and downplay the toughness of team USA's matchup, while their team gets yet another non-NHL caliber team to play (aside from playing Finland).

It's not like I was singling Canada out. I said Sweden and Canada both have very easy matchups, while the Russians and Americans will both have tougher tests. And that's 100% true.

#2483882 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 14 February 2014 - 02:00 PM

Is TSN creating their own way to show the Olympic medal count so Canada ranks higher?



I noticed that too! At first I thought they were going alphabetically back when Canada was tied with Norway for medals. But now it's pretty obvious they're just keeping Canada as #3 regardless of the medal count. Ridiculous. Inferiority complex much? lol

#2483886 Official 2014 Olympic Hockey Thread (Admin warning #316)

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 14 February 2014 - 02:13 PM

Also playing weaker teams off the start is not an advantage for a team like Canada.  If anything it's the opposite.  

I couldn't disagree more... Playing weaker teams in the beginning gives them more slack to build up chemistry and have less pressure overall and gives them more time to get their stuff together when they finally do play a medal contender.

Apparently TSN/CBC gives more weight to a gold medal?  The have Slovakia with 1 Gold ranked above Sweden with 5 Silvers and 2 Bronze?  Retarded.



Yeah and they're tied with USA, Norway and Netherlands for Gold, yet they rank themselves above all 3 despite the fact that all 3 have the same amount of Gold and MORE overall medals. SMH

#2438607 Detroit would like to welcome the Eastern Conference

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 23 September 2013 - 07:07 PM

Can't taunt the entire east with our cup count, cause Montreal and toronto have more, so how about a 3d image of murphy eating $1 hotdogs :)


Yeah, but all their cups were won many decades ago (the most current one being Montreal's '93 Cup title). Since the mid 90's the Red Wings have been leaps and bounds better and more consistent than either of those teams. Heck, in that time span we've almost won more Cups than either team has playoff appearances. And i'll take boasting about recent championships, over Cups won back in the black-and-white TV era any day. Any Habs or Leafs fans still bragging about ancient championships just proves how inept and inconsistent their teams have been in this modern era of hockey. We are the new crown jewels of the eastern conference. Oh and I almost forgot, LETS GO RED WINGS!!!!!

#2431668 It's time - to predict 2014 Team USA

Posted by TheDetroitRedWings on 27 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

Just for fun's sake, how many of USA's players could crack Canada's roster in terms of talent?  


Maybe Kane, Kessel and Parise? 

I would say Quick, Anderson, Howard, Miller, Schneider, Kane, Kessel, Parise, Ryan, Byfuglien, Suter, Yandle (and possibly Kesler with his 2-way skills) would all have a very good chance of cracking Canada's lineup. Although the great thing about the direction USA hockey is going, in another 4 years that number should grow big time. So much young American talent coming up the ranks. Hopefully most of them will develop accordingly.

#2331941 Who was the better Wing/Player? Yzerman or Lidstrom

Posted by StevieY is the captain on 17 October 2012 - 12:30 PM

Yzerman, with no doubt.
Lets say that you had to have one of these two players to bring your team out of an era of failure, which would do the better job?
Without Yzerman the Wings could very well have maintained the gold standard of fail around the league.
I love me some lids, but he could NOT have been the spark this team needed to reach success.
I draft a rookie Yzerman over a rookie Lids each and every time.

Dont forget that Yzerman was a mad mad point producer, scoring 1040 points before Bowman took over and made him a two way player. Had Yzerman remained the pure scorer he was he would have challenged many records.

10 years before 2 way play by Bowman 1040 points, After Bowman, 12 years 715 points.
Now I'm not arguing that this helped us win our first cup in forever, just that Yzerman unselfishly changed his entire game for this team, and he could have gone on to break records had he decided to not put this team first.

Yzerman is the better Wing and the better player.