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#2683479 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 19 July 2016 - 12:52 PM

If Helm finished on half of his short handed opportunities, he would probably be right there with Draper now... But like Echolalia said, even when he's not scoring on all of the opportunities that he creates, he's still amongst the best penalty killers, just by eating valuable time off the clock down in the oppositions end...

#2683457 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 18 July 2016 - 11:10 PM

I live about 45 minutes from Nashville, for the fans and the community, be it a seemingly small one, I hope he does well here and it draws more fans to the sport. It may even get me out to my first Preds game, I've lived here 3 years, maybe it's about time. 


I'm personally a big fan of the guy, he has a big heart, a big personality, and was overwhelmingly charitable for his community when playing in Montreal. He's good for the sport, plain and simple. I hope he's well received in Tennessee. 

#2683391 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 18 July 2016 - 06:08 AM

One of the best bottom 6 players in the league.

One of the best penalty killers in the league.

One of the fastest skaters in the league.

One of the most tenacious forecheckers in the league.


Good top 6 forward? No. Good bottom 6 forward? See above...

Slightly overpaid? Yes. Way overpaid? Hell No.


But keep trying to create the narrative that "Helm sucks"...

#2683384 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kliq on 17 July 2016 - 11:28 PM

Helm will botch that line up. No hands, fumbles the puck to much.


Its crystal clear you hate the Helm contract with your constant comments, but lets not paint Helm out to be a piece of garbage. The guy can more then handle himself on the third line. There is a reason other teams were in the running for him at the same price or higher then what we gave him.


Top 6 player....no. Does he have bad hands at times....yes. Is he a good third liner.....yes he is.

#2683376 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 17 July 2016 - 09:48 PM

AA, Helm and Vanek.


AA is the type of player that will hang on to the puck and has amazing hands. 

Helm is the type of player that would be involved in corner battles and probably get to the corners before most players would.

Vanek would be the net front presence.


What's not to like about the line again? Isn't this exactly Babcock/Canadian style of coaching we saw for years? 

It beats having a third line of Andersson, AA and (insert whatever winger you want because it doesn't matter since Andersson is on this line).

#2682621 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by krsmith17 on 08 July 2016 - 12:29 PM

There were soooo many people here that wanted to sign Matt Martin, even when the reported asking price was upwards of $4M. Martin produces half the points as Helm, isn't used on either special teams, had much worse possession numbers, but he somehow would have been a better option over Helm?... Haha "the grass is always greener..."

#2682973 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by Euro_Twins on 12 July 2016 - 12:16 PM

yes. I found a thread in HFBoards that's filled with the best gifs and pics. Most of them are Flashy G's
I found my avatar pic there too

Ya you probably weren't around when flashy used to come round here all the time. His game day threads were priceless. He has mad Photoshop skills

#2683213 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by WingsallTheway on 14 July 2016 - 04:41 PM

Hate to break it to you, but we have already seen his best years. Hockey players tend to hit their peak between ages 23-25. Glendy is already past that age and he is not going to get better; he will only get worse. This contract will become another albatross around the organization's neck as they try to "rebuild on the fly".


That is completely false


Peak age is 26-30 both physically and mentally. Its more of a case-by-case basis but there is no way players are best at 23. If I have a good player at that age i get really excited because there is ample room for growth


Especially in the case of a defensive player, the mental game is half the battle. You have to try things and gain experience to shut guys down, so Glendenning will get better

#2683203 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 July 2016 - 03:27 PM

I like Glendening. It's a bit too much money, but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the 4 year term. 27 year old players that could be UFAs don't usually sign contracts that short. He'll be 32 at the end of it - we'll get his best years. 


Also, something that might be considered for context in the overpayment is that Glendening's previous cahit (628.333) and salary was ridiculously low - if you think of it as back payment the 2 contracts probably equal out to a fair amount for cool hand Luke.

#2683049 Pulkkinen re-signs with a 1 year deal

Posted by HockeytownRules19 on 13 July 2016 - 10:04 AM

UPDATE: The Detroit #RedWings today re-signed RW Teemu Pokémon to a one-year contract: http://redwn.gs/29RCxMX


Amazing tweet lol


#2682920 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by kickazz on 11 July 2016 - 05:30 PM

And apparently Wayne Gretzky - aka "The Great One" saw Zetterberg in a different way than some of us as well. An article from about 3 years ago. 




“I think Zetterberg is the best player in the game (at his age),” Gretzky told NHL.com. “He’s been so physically beat up from the Stanley Cup playoffs, Olympics – all that goes with that – but he’s just very special.” Gretzky, the NHL’s all-time leading scorer, then took his admiration for Zetterberg to another level by saying, “I think he’s the best Swedish player they’ve ever put into the National Hockey League, and there has been a lot of great ones, from (Borje) Salming to (Nicklas) Lidstrom.”

#2682886 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by Holmstrom96 on 11 July 2016 - 08:07 AM

What about 96?


HA!  I love Holmstrom.  He was my favorite player for a long stretch and a part of FOUR Stanley Cup teams.


However, he's no superstar.  He's not universally heralded nor acclaimed.


Holmstrom is one of those dudes that gets stuff done.  He might not be the flashiest, or have all the deke's, ice time, or goals to show for it.


He's a breed of folks that won't have numbers retired, but will be in the hearts of folks for a long time.  When I think of his type of player, I think of the heavy lifters like Draper, McCarty, and Murphy (pre-new glasses).


No, there's no way in hell Holmstrom's number should be retired.

#2682737 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by kickazz on 09 July 2016 - 05:20 PM

The other point I'll make is this. Retiring Ted Lindsay, Alex Delvecchio Sid Abel and Sawchuk's numbers were also in discussions.


Only Howe, Yzerman and Lidstrom were players whose numbers were immediately retired. 


Lindsay and Delvecchio had their numbers retired in 1991

Sawchuck was retired in 1994

Abel in 1995


Discussing is completely unrelated to likelihood of retirement. Sid Abel retired from the game in 1954 and his number wasn't retired till 40 years after that. 

#2682935 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 11 July 2016 - 07:46 PM

Holland is responsible for crashing the Pokemon Go servers.

#2682932 For the Kenny apologists, what Holland move would change your stance o

Posted by NerveDamage on 11 July 2016 - 07:30 PM

Holland isn't responsible for Global Warming. That's Al Gore's fault.

negative, It's ManBearPig's doing