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In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Today, 01:34 PM

Penalty killing ability is pretty tangible when you're in close games (which we will be often again this year). Ability to win faceoffs is an essential part of winning in todays game - Helm back at center will supply that. Speed does matter. Forechecking pressure matters. Ability to move from center to wing up and down the lineup is important for finding line combos whenever we need to change things up. And he does produce as a secondary scorer. He's overpayed, but this is not a player like Emmerton we're talking about here.


We're not paying him like a core player. I saw someone else say that and it looks like it's caught on. If we could get a core player for 3.8 we wouldn't be worrying about how to fit in Trouba's caphit as earlier on this page 

In Topic: 2016 World Cup of Hockey thread

Yesterday, 06:20 PM

I think Tatar is a notch above Nyquist. They're similar types and I think their production will be fairly similar (depending on usage, of course).


The thing I notice about Tatar just seems to be a greater drive and he seems to create pressure and offensive more from my view. Maybe that can be represented by corsi or something. Nyquist's penchent for chicken-winging to get a hooking call and some diving has also kind of made me turn against him a bit, but that doesn't really make him a lesser player - it just bothers me. I know every player does it to a certain extent, but he does do it a lot.


Good for Tats in this tournament. Hopefully he and Mrazek will be boosted by some confidence going into the year


With Team Europe doing so well, I think it's good evidence against Frank and other's assertion that us getting a whole bunch more Michigan players will lead to better chemistry. Here you have players from 8 countries who seem to have found some pretty good chemistry.


Edit: I think it's interesting that the advisory board that helped chose the team included Lidstrom and Alfredsson and they must not have pushed for Nyquist. Then again, it's ultimately not their choice and Gus did have a down year.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Yesterday, 05:10 PM

He wasn't a top guy, he was our top guy... these are two very different things.

Top guy and #1 Dman are also two very different things.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Yesterday, 03:28 PM


Lids probably helped Kronwell look better than he is.

Maybe in the sense that it allowed him to play on the 2nd pair, but they pretty much never played together, if that's what you meant.


I think Lids actually think made Kronwall look worse because people point of comparison was one of the best Dmen of all time. I think Kronwall was a fine #1 when he first made the switch, but injuries have quickly taken him off that level in recent years.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Yesterday, 02:59 PM

This is where we disagree, I see Larkin as a very good player... maybe OUR best center. BUT not a top center in the league. Much the way Kronwall is our #1D but isn't a true #1D, and as time passes he may not even be a true #2D at this point.

Hence the word 'potential' that I used. Very few players in the NHL are 1st line centers in their first or second year in the league. I think he'll get to that level - maybe you think he'll stay at his current level - we haven't even seen him play much center so we'll see.


Edit: Regardless, you said he was like a lot of our other players and him as a 6'2" very fast well rounded center puts him as something we don't have elsewhere (maybe AA, but most project a lower ceiling for him), let alone the fact that he's the first player to make the team at 19 in such a long time.