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In Topic: Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Yesterday, 09:37 PM

Whether people love the money angle of the deal or not, at least we can say that the guy actually did something to earn his deal. I like it personally, especially considering we really haven't been spending to the cap the last few years. We didn't do as well as we perhaps could've by Tatar the last year or so, and giving him a deal like this makes up for it a bit without it truly being any sort of overpayment. 

That's not true. Last year we were so close to the cap that we had to do all kinds of financial acrobatics to make it work.


Great to sign Tatar! Lead the Griffins to the Calder Cup and won the trophy for playoff MVP. scores 19 goals in 73 games in his first full season with the wings. I think the money is fine when you think of all that 

In Topic: 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

21 July 2014 - 10:06 PM


It's a moot point since we have Quincey signed, but I definitely would've taken a flyer on Del Zotto with Babs teaching him. Guy has undeniable offensive talents, just needs some work in the d-zone.

Del Zotto is also 24! Most of our players have barely seen the NHL by that age and he's played 5 years. I think that things point to him turning things around and he could be a steal for someone. Just needs some good guidance.


As a side note, I think he's a good example of what can happen to a player when they don't play at least their first year in the AHL.

In Topic: Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

12 July 2014 - 11:24 PM


It has the potential and likelihood of being $2.5 million for a player that produced all of eight points last season. Tomas Jurco scored eight goals alone in about 15 fewer games than Cleary and was a big reason why the Red Wings made the playoffs at all. If your argument is that this deal is somehow a bargain for Cleary, I completely disagree. Brendan Morrow and Dany Heatley got less money than Cleary too, so there's two examples of (better) veteran players that were more affordable than Cleary. 


Cleary got his chance last season to go out with his head held high (a mistake a year ago too, no less) at the expense of the Red Wings MVP. There's plenty to be upset about. Hence, 24 pages of this thread and not many positive vibes going around. 

I don't like the signing, but I don't think money is really worth complaining about. Last year when Cleary signed at 1.75 mill it was definitely less than what he would have made elsewhere. It was also less than we offered him earlier (2 mill I think). He did this because we were against the cap by the time signed. 2.5 is partly paying for last year's salary I think. This year we are not going to be close to the cap and the 1.5 mill cap hit won't matter. The 1 mill bonus will count against next year's cap - a year when we'll have Mzasek, Mantha, Sproul, and maybe others at low caphit - so it won't matter.


The reason to get mad about this signing is because he showed himself as a very ineffective player last year and he takes a roster spot.


P.S. Holland said specifically that Cleary would have to beat someone out for a spot and would be a good insurance (paraphrase - I forget exact words.) I still feel like there's a good chance that doesn't play 10 games. If he does play more than 10 games then hopefully it is because the Dan Cleary of old is magically (or medically) back. I'm okay with those 2 scenarios.

In Topic: Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

11 July 2014 - 12:59 PM

5 years and not one major UFA signing although a lot of kicking the tires, saying A and doing B plus turning THE destination into a non destination.


Sometimes laughing is the best medicine and that's also exactly why I've wanted the streak to end at least ownership would then realize that changes are needed and move him up as VP only..

Major UFA signings: Weiss, Alfredsson, Dekeyser.

In Topic: Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

10 July 2014 - 09:55 PM

Sign and trade?


Technically he would have kept his promise.


Tell teams we'll even keep 2.5 mill of his salary.