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#2650396 2015/2016 Around The League

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 January 2016 - 04:13 PM

http://www.sportsnet...ending-hearing/

Suspended indefinitely pending a hearing after the all star game.


I bet if he would have sat out the rest of last night's game, he could've claimed he was concussed and didn't know what he was doing.
And he wouldn't have missed a single game, he could have been cleared before play resumes. Instead he didn't miss a shift.


#2650355 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Buppy on 28 January 2016 - 03:50 AM

I agree that seems to be the way it's going.  But the guy who keeps doing all the winning (Bowman) seems to see it differently.  It's possible that's completely coincidental.  But every time he wins, tears down his team, builds again around the same core, and wins again, I become a little more skeptical of coincidence. 

 

Again, I don't want to say "let them all walk".  I'm saying that if you're WILLING to let them all walk, you may sign more favorable contracts.  And if they do walk, you just sign Lee Stempniak to a one year deal.  He'd be leading our team in points and second in goals right now BTW lol. 

I think you're mistaking necessity for philosophy. Bowman didn't have any choice but to get rid of players.Also, we're trying to do almost the exact opposite of what Chicago has done. Chicago has let some very good players go because they couldn't afford them. They've mostly replaced them with players who aren't as good because that's what they could afford, hoping that they'd be good enough. We want to get rid of players who aren't as good for players we think are very good, hoping they'll be better. Much harder to do.

 

 

I think that all of Q, E, Abby, Helm, would count as role players.  None of them are solidly top level guys.  Abby is maybe the closest, but even he has cooled demonstrably. 

 

And I disagree that trying to save .6 million is unimportant.  Overpaying four or five bottom end guys by .6 million could well be the difference between signing a mediocre, as opposed to a very good, top end guy (when the time is right).  You think Tampa wouldn't mind having a extra couple of million right now?  You could easily make the argument that the money they're overpaying for Filppula, Boyle, Coburn, and Carle would go a long way toward keeping Stamkos in town. 

 

Again, I'm not trying to disagree with you too much here because I think we're mostly on the same page.  But I think that the cap has created a situation where the number of guys competing for the contracts below 5 million dollars is growing, and you have to be careful who you're giving that money out to because that's where there are deals to be had. 

Unfortunately, you don't get the benefit of hindsight when choosing who to go after and how much to pay. Nor do we have the allure of recent Cup wins to attract free agents at bargain prices. And it's not like we haven't gone after big UFAs or been able to make good offers.

 

Like you said though, I don't want to disagree too much. I do think we need to cut some guys loose, and we more or less have to. But I don't like nitpicking at contracts, particularly ones that haven't happened yet. If we resign Q, Helm, and Miller it won't matter if they're a little overpaid, we won't have a roster spot to add anyone anyway. If we want to add anyone expensive, we have to shed some big salaries. Not because they're bad contracts, but simply because you can only have so many. And if we get rid of some big ones, it probably won't matter if we're overpaying a little here and there.




#2650353 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 28 January 2016 - 02:44 AM

I'm fine with the dollars, less fine with the term, even less so with the ntc/nmcs.
Ericsson is a second pair shutdown d, he makes mistakes, but every d man does. And I think if he was put out there, teams would definitely be interested. The only problem I see is with him waiving his ntc, which I don't know the specifics of.


#2650329 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 27 January 2016 - 10:08 PM

From what I've read, Filppula wanted to test Free agency then came back to us to take the deal we offered, but we had already agreed with Weiss.

 

I think you're right on Hudler. It slipped my mind that we didn't make an offer to him.

 

But anyway it sounds like this is a change of argument. none of Q, E, Abby are bottom end guys. I think it would be hard to fill their shoes through free agency. Hell, we tried with Q, missed on the other options, and were stuck with him (though I like him now).

 

I think only Miller and smith could fit that description of bottom end, depth guys when they were signed and both were given fairly reasonable contracts and not much term. I don't it's that important to save the .6 mill in the fleishmann example. Fleismann was a professional tryout after his 4.5 mill deal this year. I do think those are good places to look for deals on players to fill out depth spots.

 

I think a valid criticism is term and NMCs to Abby and E and we shouldn't try to lock up these players for such a long time.

 

I think that all of Q, E, Abby, Helm, would count as role players.  None of them are solidly top level guys.  Abby is maybe the closest, but even he has cooled demonstrably. 

 

And I disagree that trying to save .6 million is unimportant.  Overpaying four or five bottom end guys by .6 million could well be the difference between signing a mediocre, as opposed to a very good, top end guy (when the time is right).  You think Tampa wouldn't mind having a extra couple of million right now?  You could easily make the argument that the money they're overpaying for Filppula, Boyle, Coburn, and Carle would go a long way toward keeping Stamkos in town. 

 

Again, I'm not trying to disagree with you too much here because I think we're mostly on the same page.  But I think that the cap has created a situation where the number of guys competing for the contracts below 5 million dollars is growing, and you have to be careful who you're giving that money out to because that's where there are deals to be had. 




#2650237 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 26 January 2016 - 09:58 PM

It blows my mind that people think we need a d-man.  We need offense.




#2650236 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 January 2016 - 09:51 PM

It blows my mind that so many people are so eager to get rid of Ericsson, Smith and Quincey, as if there are three guys within the system or available via trade or free agency that can just step in and replace all three. It's not going to happen, nor should it. It's much more likely that all three return next season rather than none of them...

I'm leaning toward letting Quincey walk, and replacing him from within. I'd like to find a team that would trade for Ericsson, but it's likely not going to happen. Smith, I keep, but no one here is shocked about that... But seriously, Smith has been really good all season, and he will continue to be really good. Why would we trade a player that is finally evolving into the player we've all hoped he would? He's still prone to f*** ups, but so is every other defenseman in the league. The difference is, Smith's mistakes just get magnified to the nth degree by most around here because they're not willing to see that he's not the same defenseman he was two years ago...


#2650230 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 26 January 2016 - 06:55 PM

Short Answer, Nerve -- No.

but... what if... ohh , ok 




#2650200 Joakim Andesson on Waivers

Posted by Yzerfan87 on 26 January 2016 - 11:56 AM

Jensen and Tangradi sent back down, Andersson back up. What the f*** was the point?


I could be wrong... But it's All Star break for NHL. Maybe they're sending those guys back down so they get some ice time?


#2650188 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by joesuffP on 26 January 2016 - 10:32 AM

I think Holland should be trying to move Ericsson for anything he can and resign Q... It's no secret that DD and Q play their best hockey together and are our best pair


#2650150 1/25 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Islanders 2

Posted by 8 Legged RedWing on 25 January 2016 - 09:29 PM

Thread updated, lines still subject to change if there are any "game time decisions". 
 
Let's get this W, i'm predicting we do the impossible and score 4 whole goals tonight for a 4-2 victory. 
 
LGW!


Nostradamus over here.


#2649925 2016 Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by barabbas16 on 24 January 2016 - 07:36 PM

Read the article that was posted earlier and translate it. He isn't close to Mrazek as he was before because Mrazek took this spot. Boohoo


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It sounds like you may be reading into it something that's not there.  First, it's Mrazek speaking, not Howard, correct?  I don't believe that one can actually speak for the other. 

 

I could speculate that maybe Mrazek feels different about the relationship himself and has just projected those feelings on Howard....or perhaps Mrazek has rubbed it in Howard's face that he stole his job and that's why it's different now..... Of course, it doesn't say actually say any of that. 

 

Neither does it say "Howard is sulking" and "Boohoo".




#2649867 Joakim Andesson on Waivers

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 24 January 2016 - 12:45 AM

 
Ferraro has 7 points in 37 games with Boston. HUGE mistake giving him to boot!!!

Hey bro.
He had something like 5 points 4 games when we first waived him.

Do you remember when people started including Janmark in their Calder votes like 5 games into the season, "Holland is so bad, blahblahblah, derpppderppp all star, rabble rabble calder"
Ha.


#2649872 Joakim Andesson on Waivers

Posted by kliq on 24 January 2016 - 03:08 AM

guess nobody really wants our scrubs then...here is the sad thing, we've been hindering the young players by playing guys in our NHL roster that nobody else in the NHL would even take for free...why have we been mediocre again?

 

We're not talking half our team here, we are talking 2 out of 3 players. Ferrero was claimed, Andersson and Kindl were not claimed. I am sure every team has 1-2 guys that could go through waivers and not get claimed at any given time.




#2649834 1/23 GDT : Anaheim Ducks at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by sjr2012 on 23 January 2016 - 09:46 PM

Ducks announcers were sooo annoying:

 

Redwings don't have a defencemen on the....oops Green is on the ice.

 

Watch Gibson drop his stick....sorry no he never dropped his stick.

 

He said a bunch of other similar mistakes earlier as well.

dont forget henrik zetterberg leads wings in scoring




#2649725 1/23 GDT : Anaheim Ducks at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 23 January 2016 - 08:20 PM

There's Jurcos goal!
Good prediction PVD.

My prediction is Beef Jurco with a goal.
 
My other prediction is that Perry will do something douchy.

You called it pvd