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#2533274 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by rick zombo on Today, 09:39 AM


First of all, you're overplaying your hand a bit.  Tatar was a regular in the lineup after 9 games...so it's not like those three guys were all getting huge playing time for the first half of the season...they weren't.  After the first ten games any two of the three were scratched on a given night.


Secondly, that doesn't really address my point anyway.  Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Samuelsson weren't the reason we got butchered by Boston in the playoffs.  They weren't the reason we blew a 3-1 series lead against Chicago the year before that.  They weren't the reason we couldn't beat San Jose for two years.  And they definitely weren't the reason we got embarrassed by Nashville in 5 games. 


But here's the kicker...neither were injuries.  In only one of those series (Boston) did injuries play a significant role.  There are fundamental issues with this team that haven't been addressed in a LONG time.  Acting like those issues have been resolved because we let a couple of frequently scratched third and fourth liners walk is the equivalent to burying your head in the sand. 


I wasn't arguing your point Kip.


I was only saying that this year's team should have less plugs than last year.


But yes, if this team continues to play on the outside, have crappy D, suck on special teams, and have average goaltending then they're screwed.


But, an improved Smith and DeKeyser combined with hopefully more Ouellett/Marchenko and less Kindl/Lashoff, and the D should improve.


The small forwards should get stronger.


Jimmy has nowhere to go but up, after last year.



#2533277 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by Spongewingredpants on Today, 10:31 AM

this always cracks me up:


"as per club policy, terms of the deal are not revealed"


2 hours later you read them on 15 websites....and this one

#2533227 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 09:32 PM

too much money. He best get 25-30 goals in each of his years...this is the reason the salary cap was put in place. There is no way a sub twenty goal scoring RFA should be anywhere near this amount. But it is Ken Holland. He hasn't changed anything in his approach. This means Diesel will get at least $4M.

Also I still hate the "diesel" nickname

#2533021 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 25 July 2014 - 06:58 PM


If you look at my line-up (which was done in a pretty light-hearted fashion by the way) it's clear that I was looking 3-4 years down the road. By then, Ericsson's deal will be up and he'll be passed over for younger/better players. And Helm? Let's just just say, with his injury history,  I'll be surprised if he can still walk in 3-4 years

In 3-4 years, Helm will be skating circles around a pile of crows for LGW to feast upon ;)


I hope he plays 82 games next season and everyone forgets the past 2 years.

#2532940 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by rick zombo on 24 July 2014 - 11:41 AM

:lol: Cleary is making more than Booth too? Hey Holland, Booth is a local kid, has some chemistry with Weiss, he just signed for $1.1M... I am just baffled. Baffled.  Why the hell wouldn't Holland give Booth a 1 year try?  All these guys that are getting bought out are signing 1 year deals for the cheap to earn the next big deal.  You have to figure Booth's camp called Holland.  Holland could have had him for pennies, now when he is a UFA next season, he will get a huge raise...He obviously didn't go to TO to win a Cup next year (like Heatley is trying to do and Richards as well.)  He was looking for a job to earn a fatter paycheck next season and Holland isn't even answering phone calls he is happy with his team and waiting to sign Alfie. I get more and more mad everyday watching quality (not high end, but quality) talent go elsewhere for less money than Cleary and #KFQ signed for...and ALL better than Cleary and #KFQ...


Sorry guys, its just so hard not to get frustrated and confused...


I think we all know by now and it's obvious that Holland is a respected man around the league but a terrible decision maker and was made to look like a hero when he took over a star-studded team that everyone wanted to play for and there were no cap concerns in stopping players from coming here. Well those glory days are over and we now see how truly incompetent Holland really is as a GM. I'm just wondering how long the Illitch family will be fooled into thinking he is still a top GM.


Comments like these make me want to cancel my subscription to LGWs.


Holland is now all of a sudden a bad GM because he didn't sign David friggin Booth?



#2532895 Hockey News: Detroit has the easiest schedule

Posted by wingsfan4795 on 23 July 2014 - 03:46 PM

Well than I'm rather wrong than delusional. Pens, Bolts, Habs, Blue Jackets, Rangers are clearly better. Flyers may be a toss up but their physicality gives them the edge.

Blue jackets I would say are pretty comparable. I've always thought the Habs were overrated and they rode a hot streak to the conference finals. The bolts always seem to follow up a good year with a sub-par year.
I think most of those teams are close enough to us skill-wise that either team could get the upper hand. I wouldn't call any team "clearly better than us" except boston

#2532497 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by Dabura on 18 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

"I think we need to let our young people grow. We signed enough players to buy our kids time in the minors. We have four d-men who are going to play here eventually and probably be upgrades on our roster. How much time do they need? We don’t know the answer. [ . . . . ] I didn’t like us in the playoffs last year against Boston, but we like what we have coming. And we like our kids. So the biggest thing is not to rush it. We could really use some puck-moving D. Well, we just happen to have some puck-moving D in the minors. Big guys that can skate. When are they ready? We’re sure not going to rush them, but if they’re capable of taking jobs they’re getting the jobs." - Babcock, from the interview


Let's be honest - the Wings aren't in really bad shape. We've spent the past few seasons "retooling" in the sense that we've kept our core intact and kept the streak alive while also building up a very impressive stable of very promising young players like Nyquist and DeKeyser and Mantha and Mrazek and Sproul and Ouellet and Jurco and Athanasiou. The "youth movement" we've been waiting for is already happening; it's a slow drip rather than one great big swell. We're not rebuilding, not looking to tear everything down and ice a roster with 20 kids. We want what every Cup contender boasts these days: quality veteran leadership (with at least two elite franchise players at the top of the totem pole) and a small army of young studs on early, affordable contracts. And we're in a position to have that very soon.


I hate the Quincey and Cleary re-signings. I hated that we brought back Samuelsson. I hated that Nyquist was stuck in Grand Rapids at the start of last season and that Jurco's going to get the same treatment this coming season. But, all things considered, this stuff isn't a big deal. What's important is that we're steadily building up to that kind of roster that can truly compete for the Cup. Again, I think that roster is within reach, we just have to be patient and not do anything really, genuinely, hugely, dangerously stupid. For example, as much as I want a Mike Green on this team, I do feel that moving, say, Nyquist for him would be really, genuinely, hugely, dangerously stupid, or at least close to it. Even if he were to have a great season, do you suppose he re-ups with us? I wouldn't be surprised if he were to re-sign with the Caps, giving them both Nyquist and Green.


But I digress. Point is, it's going to be ok, maybe. I'm generally extremely cynical about the state of the Wings, but if I'm being objective, I like us, and I think we're only going to get better over the next two or three years. Mantha will save us all.

#2532307 Alfie wants to play

Posted by number9 on 16 July 2014 - 11:19 PM

Problem is, I have a better chance of winning the Lottery than us having a full season with a healthy Pav, Z, Weiss and Alfie....and Helm, Ericsson, Kronwall, Franzen, Howard, Cleary....everyone of them will be hurt at some point of the season...I just beg that its not all at the same time.

You clearly don't understand your lottery chances sir.

#2532206 Red Wings & the Media

Posted by FlashyG on 15 July 2014 - 10:10 PM

I believe he is talking about the guy who cancelled his ticket plan and explain why he didn't agree with the things they were doing.

They told him to go support another team or somethig along those lines.

I can't remember the exact thread it was in.


I've read that in a couple places but its just a claim made by a fan with no screenshot or any sort of proof that it's a legitimate email from anyone within the organization.


For all we know it was made up by the person that originally made the claim in the first place.

#2532024 Red Wings new assistant coaches

Posted by marcaractac on 14 July 2014 - 01:34 PM


It's not the best, but it's not as bad as you make it out to be.


Exactly. The defense is automatically improved significantly just by experience alone. DeKeyser and Smith will continue to get better, and Quincey is very likely over his big time struggles in this lineup. Which he has already shown. Not to mention there is a very real possibility Kindl may never be in the lineup again *fingers crossed*


We get that puck moving dman and suddenly the defense is looking realgud.


Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who is very excited to see what this team is capable of with the youth all together for the entire season  :lol:

#2531913 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 13 July 2014 - 01:44 AM

Sammy, toots, and Bert are gone, what more do u want from poor Holland? Total tomfoolery?

Not only do I want Total Tomfoolery ™, but I demand Utter Shenanigans along with, dare I say, The Old Razzle Dazzle. "Real Fans" would expect nothing less.

P.S. Franzen is lazy and he sucks.

#2531905 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by number9 on 13 July 2014 - 12:49 AM

Is that the goal now? The Play-offs?

Haven't you heard? In the playoffs anything can happen! It's like willy wonka's hockey factory

#2530952 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 05:14 AM

I don't think this is going to handcuff the Blackhawks longterm. Was Kane worth 10,5 for 8 years ? No but everyone knows Buffalo would have thrown the bank at him so goes for Winnipeg and Toews. Toews is easily worth that much, other than Crosby and Stamkos nobody is better than him not even Kopitar and I really love that guy (hardworking physical presence everytime he's on the ice).
These two are the cornerstones of the Blackhawks and the funny thing is, some people (Blackhawks forum) still don't understand the differense between pre and post lockout caphits . Both haven given discounts of 1,5 mill per that's a lot of money almost 4 liner...

I think Malkin, Tavares, Stamkos, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are all better. Neither Kane or Toews is even a ppg player. The fact that they were asking $12 million/year is selfish and un classy and I hope it really handcuffs them going forward

#2530885 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Playmaker on 09 July 2014 - 04:58 PM

ownership won't

If not making the playoffs for a few years, guaranteed being a contender, I think fans and management would go for it.  But ask Edmonton, Calgary, Buffalo, NYI, Florida, etc, how easy it is to turn it around.  All the high draft picks in the world doesn't guarantee a contending team.  It could take a decade or more to turn it around if you start dumping players and create a losing atmosphere.  You also have to have the good fortune to win the draft lottery, have a potential franchise player being in the draft the year you are picking and have an elite scouting staff to recognize those players.  Fans act like oh, we should just miss the playoffs for a year or two, and pick up a few superstars in the draft, and voila, we'll be Stanley Cup Champions in a season or two.  

#2530686 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 July 2014 - 06:27 PM

Agree completely, well said.

Except, I would easily trade a Jarnkrok-level prospect for Green. Say.. Frk? Athanasiou? Nestrasil?


Athanasiou has developed into one of our top prospects.  At least I think so....