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#2536862 Did the Wings change the font on their jerseys?

Posted by Branton87 on Yesterday, 07:29 PM

Just kidding. I didn't see this thread this year, so I figured I'd make it. Go Wings!  :lol:

#2536579 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by kipwinger on 19 September 2014 - 10:05 AM


This story will be over come october, Babs already said he will not be talking about it by then and just go to the next question. I'm very sure Holland will do the exact same thing.


Which will only lead to more media speculation, since nothing was finalized.  Which was my point. 

#2536473 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by rick zombo on 17 September 2014 - 10:39 PM

I would prefer being the next Don Cherry


You don’t say?  :tounge:

#2536430 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by rick zombo on 17 September 2014 - 12:37 PM

Yes he is the next Crosby for sure...


What a thoughtful contribution.

#2536416 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by kliq on 17 September 2014 - 10:20 AM


We made it, but that doesn't make us playoff caliber. At no point, besides maybe game 1, did it look like we had a chance in that series. 


I think making the playoffs is the definition of playoff caliber. It sounds like you are talking about being a Stanley Cup contender. I'm not denying our poor performance in the first round last year. Though I think that was more so due to match-up then anything. I don't see us performing like that against Pittsburgh. Not saying we win, but we definitely do better.


Either way, this is all semantics, we are a playoff caliber team.

#2536381 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 08:12 PM

I'm pretty sure we burned a year of Dekeyser's contract in 2012-13 when we kept him up at the end the year even though the "smart" business decision would have been to send him to GR.


Yes, but Dekeyser is an underpaid god amongst men, deserving of 4 million a year, and is a future #1 D unless Holland F's it up someho. Don't you pay attention PVD?

#2536235 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 15 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

I just got back from my trip to Traverse City and other parts of Michigan. I was able to catch the Prospects Tournament on Friday, but I didn't go on Saturday due to other plans (I got engaged). I strongly recommend attending the tournament. We planned our trip around seeing the Wings, and the game was one of the best parts of the trip. Below are some short impressions from the game. The play was a little sloppy- most of the players haven't played together- and players who hustled and were hard on the puck were most noticeable.


Mantha- Had two excellent goals. The first was a nice snipe, and the second was batted in from mid air. He seemed very composed, made few mistakes, and controlled the play well. He was the Wings' best forward, and I'm excited to see him in preseason. From what I saw he didn't look NHL ready, but he was also playing with new teammates.


Athanasiou- Dangerous. He has great speed and an excellent shot, and was exciting each time he touched the puck. He played a little recklessly, and was hit hard a few times throughout the game. The raw talent is there, and I am excited to see how he can put his shot, speed, and tenacity together. IMO he was more exciting to watch than Mantha.


Frk- Fast, hustles, and has a great work ethic. I am hoping he can continue to improve in GR this season.


Turgeon- Always seemed to be in the right place to make a play, offensively and defensively. We always noted his hustle and energy. I wasn't a big fan of the pick originally, but I am now convinced.


Bert- Much smaller than I expected, both in size and how he plays the game. He made a few bad plays, but managed to assist on the last goal in regulation. IMO he needs to get stronger to be a physical player at the NHL/AHL level. I expected a better game from him- hopefully I caught him on an off night.


Sproul- Solid play and a great shot to send the game to OT. I expected him to be the Wings' best D, and he was by far.


Hicketts- I was impressed. Solid play and scored the GWG in OT. Was very smart with the puck, always seemed to be in the right position, and made a few good checks. His size didn't seem to be an issue in the game, but will likely hinder him getting an NHL contract. IMO if he were 2-3 inches taller, the Wings would/should sign him.


Nedomlel- Formed a solid pairing with Hicketts. Used his size well and was positionally sound. He didn't hesitate to challenge a Blues player to a fight that boarded Athanasiou. I think he has the ability to be a McQuaid type player.


McNulty- Has all of the tools, but needs a lot of improvement. He had some great offensive rushes, and was able to use his size to physically dominate play in the corners and in front of the net. He made some bad decisions, and was benched in OT along with Wheaton.


Babcock- Scowling as usual, but I saw him smile during the first intermission.


Chelios- Looks like he's in shape and ready to play.

#2536185 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 14 September 2014 - 12:37 PM

Leino is the type of gut who only wants to score. That doesn't work in the NHL.

Tell that to ovie

#2536130 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by rick zombo on 12 September 2014 - 10:52 PM

There is a discussion to be had though. Maybe not regarding game 1. 


Not all, but some of Jurco, Mantha, Pulkinnen, Ouelett, Sproul, Marchenko, Backman, and Mrazek are coming  for someone’s job sooner rather than later. It’s a certainly IMO. 


So something’s got to give. Holland and Babcock have never exactly come off like semi-large roster personnel changes was their thing, but they might have to get used to the idea.  

#2536011 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by DickieDunn on 11 September 2014 - 07:14 PM

Lashoff is pretty solid for a 7 and still has some room to grow. I'm done with Kindl though.

#2535821 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 September 2014 - 08:39 PM


From the article: General manager Ken Holland kept a promise he made to Cleary during last year's training camp by re-signing him, a move met with overwhelming disapproval by the fan base. But Holland and coach Mike Babcock are big supporters of Cleary.



I have to say, I find it interesting how so many people s*** all over Holland for the Cleary signing, but you never hear a bad thing about Babcock when its pretty evident that Babcock wanted the signing as well.


Dont get me wrong, I wish Holland never made Cleary the promise he did last year, but it is what it is.


Really?  Multiple times in many threads people have placed most of the blame on Babcock, saying he fought for Cleary to be here.  


Babcock is obviously a fan.  Cleary is fearless and goes to the net like few players on the Wings do.  Multiple times it's been cited that Babcock, the players, and Holland wanted Cleary back.  But Holland is the one ultimately responsible for the roster. 


Also, please don't circumvent the profanity filter.

#2535783 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 08 September 2014 - 10:12 PM

Dekeyser won't ever put up the points to be a #1.


Only a sith deals in absolutes

#2535764 Ottawa Senators are trying "European style" supporter sections

Posted by kipwinger on 08 September 2014 - 04:33 PM


That's common misconception about eurpean style support:


Supporters = they are going to the game to support their team loud and with all the other stuff

Hooligan = the onces going to the game in order to search/find fights they couldn't care less about the team home fans or away fans. So if you can keep those type of "fans" out all will be fine :)


It wasn't a critique of European support.  It was a critique of how aggressive North Americans can be when fueled by a healthy dose of booze and groupthink. 

#2535735 Detroit offers D Raphael Diaz tryout

Posted by Echolalia on 08 September 2014 - 11:44 AM


I'll give you Alfredsson and Weiss but it's not like there was a huge bidding war for them. As far as I remember, for both those players, only us and one other team were even interested. DeKeyser is a hometown boy so no points on that on and I'm too unfamiliar with Nosek to even comment on him. 


All I know is that it feels like for the last 5 years or so, players are always taking another team over us. I mean, do you simply refuse to acknowledge the fact we struck out on every single player we went after this season (and there were a LOT of them)?

I may be remembering incorrectly but I think there were several teams interested in Alfredsson, and several more that were interested in Weiss. 

As for this year, there were what, five players that the Wings targeted that weren't signed, and the Wings are one team in a league of 30.  The odds are NEVER going to be in our favor to sign any particular player, especially when said player is besties with the coach in Washington, and that other player wants to be with his family in Minnesota, etc etc.


side note: Funny that this article was posted on mlive this morning, because it mentions goaltender prospect Jared Coreau picked the Wings over seven other teams back when he was a free agent.  He did this knowing he would be just one goalie in an organization that already includes Howard, Gustavson, Mrazek, McCollum, and Peterson.  But he picked the Wings because of the system's ability to develop players properly.  So there you go. http://www.mlive.com...jared_core.html

#2535674 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by kliq on 07 September 2014 - 11:08 AM


Jake Gardiner ? 5 years 20,2 million

Justin Schultz ? 3,675 million for 1 year


and I think Danny is at least on par with both of these guys, both were RFAs. Fact is no matter how people are going to slice the deal it was a bad one and will hurt the team going forward but it's not something that one of the new core players should have to suffer from. Players are for sure looking around the league/own team and compare themselves to other player so yeah Danny for sure is in the 4 million + range as a defender, also a Michigan boy he is important for the team identification too so even in a loyality standpoint he has some value.


But whatever I just hope it gets done and he doesn't miss training camp


I don't watch these guys play often, so I'm by no means an expert regarding these two players. But from what I know they both are better then Quincey, and they both are being paid less then him. Kind of my point that UFA's are paid more the RFA's.


Gardiner has 3 full NHL seasons under his belt, Schultz has two. DD hasn't even played 82 games yet. This indicates to me that DD will get something like 3 years at 10-12 million or 1 year 3.5 million. Less per year, but maybe more term then Schultz since Holland really seems to love this kid, while Edmonton is a mess. Something that the Wings should easily be able to do cap wise despite Quincey.