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#2628507 3 Bold Predictions for 2015-16

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on Yesterday, 09:07 PM

1. We finish above the Canadiens.


2. Mantha scores 30+ in GR.


3. The return of the Nordiques announced by the end of the season.


You knew one jackass was going to write them in bold.

#2628502 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on Yesterday, 08:24 PM


I know. 


None of that was my point though.  My point was that because Detroit hasn't had a right shooter in a while, and they REALLY wanted one, it's all anybody could talk about.  It became a paradigm through which fans viewed our defense and as a result many have begun to fetishize the idea of right shooting defensemen.  Often times, it's used as a sort of trump card when people debate players.  "Well I know player X is better, but player Y shoots right".  Which is absurd...of course. 


That was my whole point. 

If you agree with all he said I don't get what the deal is. We did really want one. they are important. We did talk about it a lot because we wanted one and they're important. Since we want one and they're important when discussing players it gives the edge to the Righty. Haven't seen anyone make it the only consideration. What's the problem? Maybe just sick of hearing about it? 


Our GM has definitely thought about it since we have drafted a lot of RH Dmen and the search that lead to Green.


As a side note, Green gave an interview recently where he said the Caps strategized around our lack of Righties. (I'm guessing that meant breakout along the boards on the side of the Dman on his off side). It's a weakness.


Anyway, we have Green. I think one of Marchenko or Jensen are destine for the 3rd pair next year (or late this year and the other will be 7th guy.  2 out of 6 would be a good ratio (or 3 out of 7)

#2627998 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 02 October 2015 - 01:19 PM

What would it accomplish? He's our future #1 center. That's about as set in stone as can be. Trying him at wing has about as much utility as trying Tatar at center.



Even the Zetterberg comparison doesn't fit, because he broke into the league as a winger.  They moved him back to center full time because they wanted MORE strength down the middle, not less. 


The only time it makes sense to move guys from center to wing is if they aren't very good centers, but might be good wingers.  Like Abby and Helm.  Both were mediocre centers, but Babs thought they might be better grinding wingers, and so he moved them. 


Larkin could never have as much value to the team on the wing as he will at center.  First, because center is a more important position and he's super good at it.  Second, because there are several wingers who already put up good scoring numbers.  He'd just be one amongst many. 

It's the preseason. They probably just wanted to get Larkin another preseason game (I think this'll be 5 of 6 or 7), but also wanted our top 3 Cs in (Z, Rich, Shea). This was the game that was suppose to have most of our regulars. Guess they could have put him as the 4th line instead of Aubry, but that's as out of place as putting him on the wing.


There was some talk about having Sheahan on the wing - I'm glad that hasn't been followed through with. At this point of the preseason, I'd rather have Sheahan in place and preparing than our #1 prospect whose going to the AHL (everyone will weep round here, but it's going to happen).


Helm was not a mediocre center. Don't you remember all those Babcock comments about him being the best 3rd line center in the game (Although I know that's not a source you necessarily trust). He was one of our best faceoff guys. Not a future 1st or 2nd liner, but very solid at 3. I feel like I've become the sole Helm defender around here. This always happens, though: he gets disrespect in the offseason but respect during the season. 

#2627930 DeKeyser Injured

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 October 2015 - 09:06 PM

Is it me or does it seem like our players are more injury prone than other teams? I'm not saying it's the players. I'm wondering if it's the strength and conditioning team/coaches (or whatever their title is)

People were saying this last preseason and I went through all team's injury reports and it showed we were near the middle of the league for number of injuries. I don't want to go through all the teams, but here's some chosen randomly:


We've had Helm, Dekeyser, Green and Datsyuk injured. Cleary, but....

Bruins: Chara (undisclosed), Seindenberg (back surgery), Seth Griffith (knee)

Oilers: Eberle (Shoulder), Purcell (minor injury)

Caps: Backstrom (hip), Orpik (wrist), Johansson, Latta,


I imagine again, we're somewhere near the middle again. I do think it's a general trend that injuries are more common with the faster game and bigger size of the average player. I don't think it's an issue with us - it just seems like we get more because we all pay attention to the Wings closer.


Anyway, Last off-season the WIngs did an overview strength and condition due to amount of injuries that year (when it was an issue). 2 years ago we were one of the highest in games lost, but that was the year when Z's back forced him out, Dats missed half the year, Mule was out for a concussion, Weiss was out with his injury. None of those (maybe Datsyuk's) can really be traced to training: Mule was hit in the head, Weiss came with his injury, Z's flared up at the Olympics and has been an issue for a long time. Then we also had Cleary, Monster, and Sammuelsson on the team and they've pretty much always had injury problems.

#2627684 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 September 2015 - 12:24 PM

I am curious to know what you guys think our guys will look like completely healthly? barring we can actually stay 100 percent what do you thin k our lines will be? who do you see on the outside


Z Dats Abby

Goose Richards Franzen

Tats  Shehan  Jurco

Miller Glendening Helm



Kron BIG E

Green DD

Q Smith





Looks pretty much like what I think we'll see. From the preseason I think Kindl gets the 6th D spot over Smith. Also Ferraro over Andy.


It will be interesting to see what happens if both Jurco and Pulkkinen play well. There's not really room for both when we're healthy, but they've both looked pretty good so far. If that did happen I'd be inclined to take Miller out of the lineup, but we'd have to to juggle up the combos to get a decent looking 4th line. 


As for getting cap compliant I think it would have to be one of the D men to go. We have young guys that WILL be on the roster in 2 years (probably 2 of Marchenko, Ouellet, Jensen, Sproul). They are ready to step in this year so it wouldn't be a sacrifice. Quincey will be gone and probably one of Smith/Kindl so, if we can, make a trade when we're not under as much pressure to do so. The grand slam would be if we could turn some combination of Q, Kindl, Smith, and Ericsson into some top 4 upgrade. 


Still think it would be crazy to trade Helm. Miller would be my sacrifice upfront or even Richards if Sheahan looks able to hold down the 2C spot. Those 2 are more likely to be gone than Helm in the next few years. 


Love the look of this year's team. We have talent really spread out through the roster and in great talent that could could be called up (larkin, Marchenko, etc). It will give a certain level of immunity to the effect of injuries. 

#2627515 Chicago re-signs Seabrook; 8 years, $6.875 AAV

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 27 September 2015 - 12:40 AM

This is a great deal for one of the top defenders in the game:
Seabrook has to be one of the most underrated defenders in the game, he may not be flashy but he does everything so damn well and allows Keith to take some risks. So all in all a pretty good deal for the Hawks, he would have easily gotten something like 8x8 on the open market.

I would say it's something like Weber, Suter, Doughty, Keith, Seabrook, Pietrangelo, Hedman

I think you have to include Subban and Karlsson on that list. Probably Ekman-Larsson and Letang above Seabrook too.


That deal is probably a good one for both sides. 

#2627388 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 September 2015 - 12:18 PM

I was under the impression the accuser turned down a settlement. Not sure where I saw that, but if this was a money grab why would she do that?

That has only been speculated by the media. Her lawyer said he would be the last lawyer you would go to when you want to negotiate a civil case; suggesting that he hadn't discussed that.


Has there been any explanation about what the mother was trying to gain by claiming she found the bag? 

I think it is to be assumed that it was in reaction to the DNA result. They showed no trace of Kane and so that probably would have killed the case. She was probably trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of those findings. I'm not sure why she'd think it would work, though, since the real evidence box can be accounted for. Maybe she was playing for the court of public opinion rather than the real courts.

#2627312 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 September 2015 - 01:01 AM

I dont know. Even with Helm and Datsyuk out the lines still look like this :


Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Jurco - Richards - Tatar

Franzen - Sheahan - Glendenning

Miller - Andersson - Ferraro


Pulk would get a spot before Larkin. And neither of them would be on the fourth line but rather on the third line. So you could shift Glendening for 4th line and remove Ferraro or Andersson and insert Pulk into third line spot with Sheahan and Franzen. 

haha, beat me to it. My post is almost identical to yours! Although I don;t think ANdersson will be there (maybe just a hope)

#2627310 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 September 2015 - 12:58 AM

No way is Larkin in GR to start the year, with Pav on the shelf and Helm iffy, he's definitely on the opening night roster. Kid has the goods. Bertuzzi had a great game after a quiet one the other night. Loving the kids, will take a few season to see most of em on the big club.... that's what NHL16 is for I guess :hehe:

Even without Helm and Datsyuk there's no room: (I know these won't be the lines)







Who you going to knock out? For me you can knock Ferarro out, but who's on the 4th line? I don't want Jurco or Pulkkinen there. Mule? Sheahan? I don't see how it works.


I think Larkin needs another injury to have a chance. The kids have been great so far this preseason, though. 

#2627240 Kane case headed to grand jury

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 September 2015 - 09:41 PM

As bos said, He showed the bag which still had her name on it.

yeah,  just read that.


Also, you quoted me before i could cover up my stupid DEA mistake. (I can think of someone thinking: now their after Kane for drugs too?) 

#2627195 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 September 2015 - 08:34 PM

People want Larkin up from the beginning, but that would almost definetly put Jurco or Pulkkinen on the bench or 4th line. I'd rather let those 2 really get a good shot and have Larkin play some AHL games the see where things are at after 10-15 games.

#2627067 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 September 2015 - 02:02 PM

Mlive made an interesting choice of photos for their article about his return:





#2626569 9/22 Exhibition GDT : @ Chicago Blackhawks 5, Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 September 2015 - 11:18 PM

Is Blashill better than Babs yet?

I judge by the post-game interviews. Until he gets some solid Blashisms there will be no comparison. Also, how is his death stare?

#2626071 Predict The Red Wings' 20+ goal scorers for '15-'16

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 19 September 2015 - 11:24 PM

1 season doesn't mean anything, Tats got to play with PPG Pav all season and was basically our only other serious threat on the PP it was Tats breakout year and Gooses sophmore slump

Well they've both really only played one complete year so yes it does mean something.


If you want to play the linemates game. Goose was playing with Z 2 years ago while Tats was with lower lines (Helm and Sheahan). Also, Tats played with Pav, but it's not like Gus was with a pilon - he was usually with Z (who had more total points).


Not sure what you mean with the PP argument. The PP was ranked 2nd in the league but we only had 2 serious threats? Gus had a lot of PP time and was 3rd in the league for PP goals. Was that supposed to be an argument explaining Gus's lower # of goals?


Last year may have been TTs breakout year, but he's progressed pretty steadily. He had 17 more points than the year before, but he also played 9 more games and played with better lines. Both players have played nearly the same amount of games - Calling Nyquist's season a sophmore slump is pretty arbitrary - maybe 13-14 were inflated numbers - we don't know until he's played a couple more years.  


Anyway, I don't think we know how they'll end up, but It's certainly not laughable to think that Tatar will scored more goals. I mean, he just scored more goals, but your comment seemed like you were considering it an idiotic thought.


Lastly, nhl.com list Nyquist as 1 inch taller and 2 pounds lighter. I don't think that should be considered a difference between them.

#2626016 P.K. Subban Donates $10 Million Dollars to Children's Hospita

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 19 September 2015 - 02:31 AM

Dude, what do you think the purpose of a "foundation" is?  When they have all those shindigs like the Evening with the Red Wings, Toast of Hockeytown and that dinner that Zetterberg has where you get to meet players when average fans shell out big bucks( with proceeds going to the Zetterberg Foundation), they are funding the foundation.  So is PK Subban giving 10 million out of his own pocket or is it 5 million and 5 million that fans have given or will give over the years?  Or is it 1 million and 9 million?  Or 9 million and one million?


I didn't say it's a bad thing.  I said exactly the opposite.  I know it would be the easy and popular thing to jump on the bandwagon and ooh and ahh that he gave 10 million dollars.  What I was also saying is that many, many other players give generously of their time and money and do so without the fanfare, which for me, makes a good thing, even better.  YMMV.

But a foundation doesn't isn't always an organization that fundraises. A foundation can be - as It seems to be here - just a governing body that doles out the funds of one large donation. They won't be giving money to every patient's family, because, of course, there's many families don't need the financial help. They will need employees to go over cases one by one, hence the need for a foundation. Many foundations that give money over an extended period of time also invest money that won't be given right away so that real number will end up being greater in funds given away - So the foundation might control that.


The article seems pretty clear that Subban is giving 10 million. Not sure why you've interpreted as a promise of 10 million that he will fundraise a portion of.