It's a sellers market there aren't enough buyers so the prices are going up, but yeah if the price for Petry is a 2nd and a good prospect I'd say it's not worth it. Wings can sign him for free in the summer so
That's not how economics work. Demand creates higher prices. The prices are higher because there are a lot of buyers. We don't hear about everyone who inquires about these players. Also, teams are paying these prices so it sets a precendent for the next deal.
I was young at the time, but never really understood the Quebec deal. What was his problem with going there? Because they sucked? Because he was a suck? Have'nt heard of a player refusing to play for the NHL team that drafted them since, as crappy as the team was. Woulda been like Crosby telling the Pens to suck it. And we all know what a whiner he is.
Either way, it's funny how Quebec got some crucial players that contributed to the Avs two cups after the move to Colorado for Lindros, and Lindros only went to the Finals once with Philly, and was swept by the Wings. Retired cupless.
It was the shortage of endorsements that would be available and the limited visibility in the Quebec market. He wanted to play in a major market where he could make more money of endorsements and be a big star.
I'm sure the fact that the team was struggling was a part of it, though.
Not sure why you would need more. Every NHL game is televised - you would pull tape any player you're targeting. If it's during the season send them to watch the one player intently for a while. Having a scouting dedicated to watching every NHL and AHL seems overkill. We have enough arms in the organization that they'll know most players in both leagues. I mean, the coaching is watching tape preparing for each game and Blashill and company are doing the same in the AHL.
As for the players you mentioned, we knew them quite well. Sammy obviously played here and Babs coached Commodore. We knew what we were getting. Injuries made the these signing a lot worse, but that's not a fault of scouting - we definitely would have known Coliacovo's history of injuries. They were signings made with limited options and I think that has to be taken into account.
Is Holland not under more pressure to make this team better this year so he can try to keep the best coach in the league? If Holland sits on his hands this year I think that Babcock might get frustrated and walk. I think Babcock wants to win every year and just making it into the playoffs isn't enough.
Am I the only one that wants to re-sign Gustavsson if we can sign him for say $750,000?
If we were to re-sign Gustavsson, we'd have to expose Mrazek to waivers at the beginning of the year because he will be past his waiver exempt status. He would certainly be picked up and we'd lose him.
With Smith, Nyquist, Jurco, and Andersson RFA's at the end of the season, I'm not expecting to add any players. We can't add any salary, in fact we need to get rid of Kindl's contract. If we make a move it'll probably be a 3rd or 4th round pick for Kindl.
Don't get upset if Holland doesn't add a player.
Of those listed, only Nyquist will get a substantial raise. Smith will get a raise to a lesser extent, Jurco even smaller. Andersson will probably be gone, in my opinion. If he's still here, it won't be for much (I'm thinking Glendening level)
Cleary's large cap hit will be replaced by Pulkkinen"s, Moster's larger cap hit will be replaced by Mrazek's. I don't think cap concerns would be on our mind for this offseason when thinking about adding a Free agent.
It would be nice to get rid of Kindl's contract though
Alright, I'm sharing my very small Emmerton connection.
My grandma lives next to Emmerton's grandma. She doesn't have a tv so she'd watch some Red Wings games with my Grandparents. Somewhere along the line it was passed along that I was a huge Red Wings fan. He passed along an autographed card for me. He seemed like a really good hardworking guy. Hope everything is alright with him after the fight and concussion.
To be fair both McDavid and Eichel are at around 190lbs. But yeah, to never draft anyone under that mark is a little ridiculous...
Yeah, Actually Eichel's listed at 194. My bad. McDavid's 187. I thought I remembered them being listed at less a while ago. And, yeah, my point was that a size cutoff of 200lbs would exclude a lot of skill players especially since they would be young and could put pounds on later.
Agreed, neither have been preferred destinations. But no doubt they'd prefer to be on the #1 team in the league rather than stuck in Toronto (which was the original opinion that you responded to.)
Haha typical LGW. We didn't land him, so... we didn't even want him... Franson is garbage, not worth the asking price...
To me, that's not typical LGW at all. Typical LGW is: "Why can't Holland make deals like this! (even though nobody would want him to pay the price that was payed). He's just booting the tires while wasting the rest of Dats and Z's careers..."
Hey, didn't we trade a 1st for Kyle Quincey?
Holland does overpay. Just for the wrong guys.
To be fair, Quincey came hear with an expiring contract, but he would be an RFA so we knew we'd have him for more than the rental period. Franson is purely a rental at the time of this trade - It's a much higher price to pay for the return.