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#2685039 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 August 2016 - 09:07 PM

Part of me is hoping we have a Dman injured so we can keep XO, Sproul, and Jensen at least at the beginning of the year.

 

Sucks for Jurco. He was already starting behind the eight ball and now the path looks harder for him.




#2684944 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 19 August 2016 - 02:32 PM

 

Last eleven years. No one has made fewer trades, and it's not even close.

A.K.A. since the salary cap. It's clear that has been our policy since the cap - go with homegrown draft picks and prospects for the majority of our players. In this time, I think every other team, at some point, has either traded a lot of their future in a big push to win (Pens, FLA, KIngs, etc) or traded away aging stars in order to tank and get picks (Flames, Buffalo, etc.) We haven't been in either of these extreme situations so it makes sense that we have tallied much less trades - that was what I was saying.

 

Now, you can argue that we should go through the cycle of boom and bust, but that's another conversation, i think. 




#2684695 Patrick Roy steps down as Head Coach and VP of Hockey Operations

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 11 August 2016 - 08:09 PM

So, is this what happens when you hire unqualified people based on their name and relationship to you and not because they're good at their job?

I don't know if that was the case with Roy. His 8 years coaching in the QMHL he did pretty well. He won a Memorial cup there and that's the top achievement at that level. He was also the GM, owner, and vice president there as well. 

 

Maybe you meant Sakic? I wouldn't say that was the case either. He work his way up a la Yzerman.




#2684567 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 August 2016 - 06:25 PM

Because Murray didn't have much to do in the series. San Jose had what? like 19 shots on him in game 6? Pittsburgh's offense piledrived the hell out of San Jose throughout the series. 40+ shots in like 3 games. Absolutely wrecked them. 


Right so by these numbers then Draper was the better producer. Out of the 3 years you listed Glendening produced more only once but he also averaged the ice time of a 3rd/2nd liner while like your chart says Draper had like 12:43 TOI and only scored 3 less points. 

 

So Draper is the better producer lol. 

Alright, truce. I'm not going to try to convince you. I wasn't even arguing that Glendening is the better producer than Draper - Just that he's in line with the production of our Grind Lind, other than their few outlier years.

 

Just take another look at Draper, Maltby, Kocur's McCarty's stats and you'll see each only has a few years when they each contributed significant offence. I didn't even need to bring Glendening into it. Usually those players were 20 pts or lower.




#2684216 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 July 2016 - 05:14 PM

Don't forget to vote for your favourite design for the Jack Adams Memorial Mural.

 

http://redwings.nhl....e.htm?id=113667

I say #1 all the way! 




#2684177 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 July 2016 - 11:04 PM

Idk, something about Swedish Mafia Don influencing the future captain or something. Whatever caption pleases you. 

 

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Because of the Swedish connection, I can only see that picture as the famous scene from The Seventh Seal.

 

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#2684072 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 27 July 2016 - 03:46 PM

Fair enough.

 

So I think all the business of the offseason is done unless Kenny surprises us with a trade. This seems like the most uncertain feeling we've had going into the year. Will Nyquist and Tatar return to form? Will Blash learn from the mistakes of last year? How will Nielson (and to a lesser extent Vanek) fit into the lineup? What will the PP and PK look like with 2 new ass. coaches? Who will we lose from the D prospects? A lot of big questions and the season could end up many ways, I think. 




#2683993 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 July 2016 - 11:05 PM

Nyquist
Larkin
Zetterberg
Tatar
AA
Abdelkader
Mantha
Sheahan
Vanek
Jurco
Glendening

Miller Pulkkinen Aubrey Bertuzzi Frk Callahan and whoever else can fight for the last 3 spots. They're not going to win the Cup with what they have now, might as well let the kids play.

Okay, so you just didn't like the Helm or Neilson signings. I'm wary of the Nielson deal, but I don't know much about him so I'm waiting to see. I think Nielson is a definitely a possibility to a block against young players because I think AA could be a 2nd line center in a couple years. Helm I think will just be push down the lineup if Mantha or Jurco come in and grab a spot.

 

I just disagree with the narrative I've seen around that Helm, Glendening are blocking the kids. They're 29 and 27 - I think they're good pieces and they can be part of a contending team in a few years. I think Miller, Ott, Vanek, are signings that won't be part of that future and take roster spots away from Jurco, Pulkkinen Mantha(should start in GR)

 

I do think E is a longterm contract that has blocked some worthy young players.




#2683840 DeKeyser files for arbitration...

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 July 2016 - 04:02 PM

Hudler was a special case, that was eventually deemed invalid after returning from the KHL was it not? I remember something about it, but can't remember exactly how it all went down...

 

Regardless, that doesn't change the point that we have plenty cap space to sign both remaining RFA's, and it will likely happen before they reach arbitration...

The way I remember it is he was awarded his 2 year contract through arbitration, but decided to play in the KHL instead (maybe wasn't happy with the ruling). Then he honored the arbitration deal when he returned.




#2683678 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 July 2016 - 10:07 PM

Comparing him as a top 6 winger to third line centers is an apples to oranges comparison. He's so good at center he hasn't been used there in 2 years

He wasn't moved off center because he's wasn't good at it. We've lacked wingers and had a bunch of lower line centers so Helm played wing. To me, his ability to play in many situations is one of his strengths.

 

Helm's not a top 6 winger. haven't seen anyone argue that. 

 

There was some nice goals from mr. no hands this past year. 3 were GWG (tied for 3rd on the team behind Lark and Abby). Think he would have had a better year if he hadn't had the concussion in training camp which I think accounted for the slump to start the year.




#2683645 Fans rank front offices....Wings 21st

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 July 2016 - 02:32 PM

Yeah, 200 fans equates to 6-7 fans per team IF they spread out equally the responders over the fanbases. But it doesn't seem that they did that - they just took whoever responded. Could be all Tampa fans. Regardless of what fans they are, they ranked the entire league and I guarantee most fans know very little about how all teams draft, etc.




#2683603 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 21 July 2016 - 05:50 PM

That twitter page also mentions Edlaer for Tatar/Nyquist as a possibility and mentions Tanev as a player Canucks might be willing to move. It all seems more like speculation.




#2683559 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 21 July 2016 - 02:19 AM

Should've made your username SergeiViktorovichFedorov  :brow:

I say we draft the next Russian we find with a V_ _ _ _ _ _vich middle name.




#2683556 Who should get A?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 21 July 2016 - 01:43 AM

I'm actually on board with Larkin, though I think I voted for Abby originally. I think the team's at the point that the young players need to be taking over the load and it would be a good message that the team is yours based on your present contribution rather than a hierarchy of experience. DK would be a good option for that message as well, but Larkin is more of a lock to be an elite player on the Wings for a long while.




#2683539 Should any of #91, #13, #40, #30 be retired? Poll/Discussion

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 July 2016 - 06:37 PM

 

I have a feeling you are in the minority here. From my understanding, Kelly never won a Hart trophy which when you think about it, is an amazing individual feat. Something even Yzerman and Lidstrom never did.

To be fair, D men (which he was with the WIngs, but not the Leafs) are much less likely to receive the Hart - especially after the Norris was introduced in 54. He was a runner up one year, though, and won the Norris and 3 Byngs. But you're right - Fed's Hart, 2 Selkes, and Leaster B. probably wins out, though the later 2 weren't around during Kelly's time (so it's comparing a Hart to a norris).

 

...and Feds is my all-time favourite so I'm not going say he wasn't the better one.