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#2556782 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 14 December 2014 - 04:18 PM

Yandle is being underrated by Wings fans. Anybody that is choosing a team is going to take Yandle well before they take Kronwall but luckily, we don't have to choose because we'll have both! It's called defensive depth and when you only have one skilled puck mover you start to notice that puck movement and overall game is filled with inconsistency. I wouldn't be the least bit upset if we traded Jurco and Sheahan for Yandle and I also wouldn't be opposed to packaging Smith and Dekeseyer for another big time RH top 4 so we'll have elite defense. Because isn't that what this is all about, improving to become elite. Seems like this forum only cares about how good our prospects can get. Passing up on Yandle is dumb unless Holland wants to wait 2 or more years to see if Smith or Dekeseyer can grow into that role and by that time we'll have to give up on our forward depth anyways

I understand that you're sacrificing for a big name, but getting rid of those 2 would be WAY too much. They are two solid players heading into their prime that can be a solid #3 and #4 (or may develop higher) for the rest of their careers. Not to mention they're pretty cheap at the moment. I really don't know which RH Dman could be worth giving them both up.  


To me, our Tradable roster Dmen goes: 1.KIndl, 2.Lashoff (does his job, but easily sacrificed) 3.Quincey, 4.Ericsson

#2556029 More Mantha stuff.....

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 December 2014 - 06:14 PM

edit: i read wrongly and then posted a response that made little sense.

#2555985 Danny DeKeyser out for weekend with upper body injury

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 December 2014 - 01:38 PM

I agree the timing was terrible last year. But I'm just saying the teams health is still not where it needs to be.

Also z and Ericsson could also have had lingering effects of their injuries from last year. Ericsson started the season slow. And while z is still producing, he isn't quite where he shoukd be yet.

I think perfect health is unrealistic. Look around the league, teams are rarely 100% these days. We have been relatively healthy and none of the injuries have hurt us all that much - I think that's "where it needs to be."

For a push in the playoffs, we do need Z to find his game. He's coming back from surgery and he's has many seasons with slow starts - I'm not that worried 


You do realize we have had the injury big all year(like some like me predicted) but it hasn't slowed us down at all in the standings(which I'm glad I was wrong about!).

But I'm pretty sure we have had a significant guy out in just about every game this year?

Dat, Franzen, Weiss, smith, Abby, Howard, now DD and others like monster and Quincey etc etc

Before Abdelkader went down, we had a stretch of games where the only one hurt was Monster. With Mrazek to step in for him that injury is barely noticed.


If you're counting all those players as significant then most of our roster is significant. Maybe "others like Monster and Quincey" meant less significant? Also. I love Smith and Abby, but I think significant injuries only means stars and starting goalie.


If you look at this link for the first 20 games of the season, The WIngs are 7th in players lost by caphit amount. We had Weiss out for that period and I think that accounts for that high ranking. He seems to have turned a corner with his injury situation and I think we've been closer to the middle of the pack since he's been back.




Also, if you look at the link, for the first 20 games we've lost 43 man games without considering caphit. They don't rank that, but, looking at that column, I think we were 16th in number of man games lost. (Maybe somebody can check out my counting)


Though we've lost games for some big players, but I'm not so worried about our injury situation. Last year we had a lot of players battling long term situations.

Weiss seems to be on track, Helm too. Z had his surgery. Dats didn't have anything done and has been out so he could be a concern, but his current hot streak argues against that.

#2555709 12/10 GDT - Maple Leafs 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 10 December 2014 - 11:10 PM

Still #1 in the East!!!!


Penguins have 2 games in hand, but it's sweet while it will last. 

#2555087 It's gotta be asked....What's up with Hank?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 09 December 2014 - 12:38 PM

It may be tough to admit, but I think both D and Z are beyond their prime years.  Both will still have stretches of greatness, but I don't think either would sustain for a real lengthy period of time.  It's just the way things work. 

And yet Datsyuk has been playing as good as ever for a while now. So it's just a stretch of greatness? We'll see.


Not too worried about Zetterberg. He's was coming back from surgery and still leads the team in points. Not everyone on the team will be at the top of their game all at once. I'm happy that now we have a deep enough team that certain hot streaks can cover others cold streaks.

#2554689 12/7 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Hurricanes 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 07 December 2014 - 07:35 PM

Tied for 1st in the East!!!!!!

#2553647 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 03 December 2014 - 08:31 PM


The team is having a strong start but it's not like we've won the cup the past 5 years in a row. The past few years this team HAS been broke. Just saying.

You took my comment without the context, but anyway, has been broken is different than Is broken. It's not the same team as the past 5 years. Besides, I don't think coaching is to blame for the downturn of the past 5 years - It the fact that we've been rebuilding the roster. 

#2553618 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 03 December 2014 - 03:13 PM

I wouldnt mind seeing what Blashill could do. Little crazy? yes but i say give it a shot. I do question babcocks theories quite often but then again hes an nhl coach and im a college student so what do i know:p

Babcock a large part of why we're doing better than expected. It seems to me, from comment in the media, that he's built a good relationship with our young players. Before this year i was on the fence about babs coming back, but it's clear to me that we're on a path where we can have some real success in the coming years. Changing coaches could put that in jeopardy.


basically, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

#2553560 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 03 December 2014 - 01:23 AM

XO has officially become an overrated prospect! Congratulations everyone! Us, LGW, did it! 9 months from now, when we are all demanding he be traded, just remember it was us, the true red wings fans, who got him here.

I know you're joking (as always) so maybe I shouldn't point this at you... but I don't get why people in this thread are saying he's overrated, overhyped, etc. The only opinions I've seen is some saying that he should be in the lineup over Kindl. That's not really a grand statement - it is also Babcock's opinion as well. XO's shown himself to be quite ready in his call-ups and is the most ready of our AHL Dmen. 

I don't think Kindl has been all that bad, but he is often a defensive liability. Ouellet could realistically be more solid. 


Now, if someone has called him the second coming of Lidstrom and I didn't see it - my apologies.

#2553087 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 December 2014 - 02:10 PM

Euro_Twins, I don't care what logo a player wears now, Franson would look great on our blueline. Do I think we will land him? Not a chance, but I would love to have him here. He's exactly the type of defenseman this team needs, a big body that hits a ton, shot blocking machine, right handed shot, power-play quarterback. What's not to like? I'd include Ouellet in a deal for him without hesitation.

Franson would be a great addition, but he's a UFA after this year so I wouldn't think it smart to give up a prospect as good and NHL ready as Ouellet for 3/4th of a year of him. 


Anyway, no way the Leafs deal him to us.


Franson's had some problems negotiaing with the Leafs in past years - I'm hoping he wants to check out free agency next summer. 

#2552667 Lines Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 November 2014 - 02:27 PM

Just get rid of Lashoff. He's a plug anyways and Ouellet is better than Kindl. Another case of "overripe" when it isn't necessary.

Do we want Ouellet as the 7th defenceman, though? If we waived Lashoff and kept Kindl as #7 that be fine with me except that that would make it even harder to trade him off and that would be his path to a buyout in the summer. He would then mark against the cap for 2 more years.

#2551529 Saluting the fans

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 November 2014 - 01:40 PM


Then they should stop buying tickets and put pressure on the organization to make some fundamental changes.  They're like Lions fans.  If you're sick of losing stop giving them money. 

You know that isn't a realistic idea, right. There's so many hockey fans in and around Toronto they would still sell out even if a large amount of fans stopped buying tickets in some kind of protest. 


With that in mind, maybe it's a little more understandable why leaf fans use their own stupid forms of protest (paperbag masks, jersey on ice, general douchebaggery)

#2550910 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 November 2014 - 02:19 AM

Noooooooo that makes me think his glass groin is still f'd and he's playing timid.

Or maybe he just hasn't play hockey in a long time.

#2550361 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 November 2014 - 08:20 PM

There's a lot of people upset that "we lost him for nothing..." attached to damning of Holland in GMing abilities. There was also a few comments saying that it seemed that the Wings have lost more players for nothing than others. That got me thinking and I was bored so I did some research on Wikipedia. Here's all the players that have been claimed off waiver from each team since the beginning of the 2010-11 season. It shows that we are right in the middle of the pack and it happens to all teams (except the Bruins, apparently). 


Penguins: (7) B.Strait, T.Kostopoulos, Z.Boychuk, S. MacIntyre, D. Jeffrey, M. D'Agostini, Nick Johnson

Kings: (6) T. Hickey R. Clune, Marc-Andre Cliché, Keaton Ellerby, Adam Cracknell, Marco Sturm                 

Blues: (5) Anthony Peluso, Nate Prosser, Taylor Chorney, Marek Svatos, Kyle Wellwood


Panthers: James Wright, Mike Santorelli, Ryan Carter, Michael Grabner

Flyers: Niko Hovinen, Tom Sestito, Blair Betts, Andreas Nodl

Lightning: Adam Hall, Richard Panik, Antti Miettinen, Curtis McElhinney

Oilers: Corey Potter, Taylor Chorney, Gilbert Brule, Ethan Moreau

Islanders: Jack Skille, Blake Comeau, Tim Wallace, Rob Schremp

Ducks: Brian McGrattan, Ben Maxwell, Brendan Mikkelson, Troy Bodie


Blackhawks: Ryan Stanton, Michael Kostka, Nick Boynton

Predators: Zach Boychuk, Taylor Pyatt, Marek Svatos

Red Wings: Joey MacDonald, Andrej Nestrasil, Mattias Ritola

Sabres: Joe Finley, Corey Tropp, Craig Rivet

Hurricanes: Zach Boychuk, Patrick O'Sullivan, Brett Carson

Canadiens: Aaron Palushaj, Jeff Woywitka, Blair Betts

Wild: Zenon Konopka, Colton Gillies, Brad Staubitz


Maple Leafs: Keith Aucoin, Darryl Boyce                 

Devils: Bobby Butler, Alexander Urbom

Coyotes: Brett MacLean, Cal O'Reilly

Rangers: Jeff Halpern, Dale Weise

Stars: Luke Gazdic, Kevin Connauton

Capitals: Roman Hamrlik, Alexander Urbom

Jets: Brett MacLean, Ben Maxwell

Senators: Kaspars Daugavins, Cory Conacher


Flames: Niklas Hagman

Avalanche: Brandon Yip

Blue Jackets: Grant Clitsome

Sharks: Frazer McLaren

Canucks: Aaron Volpatti



#2550187 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 November 2014 - 12:56 PM

What a surprise ... Had a feeling we'd lose him , seems the detroit way to always losing assets for nothing

Would of been nice to at least have gotten a 7th round pick

Hurricanes took him for free. would they have taken him if they had to give up a pick? Maybe not. Especially if they think we're going to waive him eventually.