Jump to content

PavelValerievichDatsyuk's Photo


Member Since 17 Jul 2010
Offline Last Active Feb 03 2016 04:28 AM

#2646740 Goalie Battle

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 January 2016 - 03:54 AM

"I've been sayin' it. I've been sayin' it for ten damn years. Ain't I been sayin' it, Miguel? Yeah, I've been sayin' it." - Russel Case (Independence Day)


"Mrazek, uh, finds a way" - Ian Malcom/Jeff Goldblum (Jurassic Park)


I hate to say it but damnit, I'm going to. Good Bye Howard Apologists!!!!!  All last year I kept saying how they should start getting Mrazek in a position to take over the starting job soon, especially with the way Howard was struggling. And all last year I got s*** on by almost everybody.


"He doesn't have any experience!"

"You just like him cuz he's new and shiny. Once he starts struggling you'll be calling for McCullom!"

"Blah Blah Howard Blah Blah...."


NO. I liked him because he was clearly better than Howard. Better agility and quickness, better stick handling, better positioning, better mental tougness, ect... 


Jimmy is still a good goalie. Probably the best backup goalie in the league. I still hope he gets out of this funk he's been in and will cheer for for him when he does play. But Mrazek seems to have taken the starting job for good. Having a goalie tandem of Mrazek/Howard is a 'good problem' to have. Whichever way Blashill splits the starts from here on out is fine with me.

Who are the people/conversations that you are bragging about being right to? From what I remember, you've argued with people about how bad you thought Howard was. I don't think anyone around here has been anti-Mrazek. I can't think of anyone who has said that Howard should be playing over Mrazek - just a bunch who like the tandem.


But, anyway, Mrazek is looking great. With Larkin, DK, Mrazek, possibly include Tat/Ny it's great to see these pieces falling into place that the team can build around for the next decade.  

#2646735 Wings Need on D and Glaring Inconsistencies

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 January 2016 - 03:42 AM

And Nashville cant just trade Seth Jones to get a #1C. And Minnesota cant just pick up Suter and parise for nothing as UFA's. And New York cant just land Yandle for prospects. And Washington cant just pick up Niskanen. And Dallas cant just land a fututecentl for an old winger and pick up another #2C who recently was a #1C for prospects. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR KEN HOLLAND. He is garbage. Holland is picking up everyone elses trash and paying them for past accomplishments. He has no idea what he's doing.

- Who do we have that's equivalent to Jones on D that you would have been willing to trade?

- Suter and Parise were a very rare case of UFA sweepstakes. They picked their destination based on personal connections to the area. We could have moved the team to Minnesota, but I don't fault Kenny for not going with that decision. 

- Yes, we missed Niskanen, but we picked up Green, Alfie, Dekeyser, Richards. It's the nature of free agency - you miss on some, you get some. It's clear Nisky wanted to go to a cup favourite - we're not one because we've been rebuilding and transitioning to youth (lark, ny, tat, mraz, DK, etc). The price of success

- WHo's our equivalent to Erikkson for the Dallas trade? ...aging top line winger...Franzen...no way would they take him with injury concerns and a serious contract (does RAM voice)...Zetterberg? I would personally gather the pitchforks to head to Holland's office. Maybe you're talking about a different trade though since you said Winger + a pick and the seguin deal was a 7 player deal?

#2646668 1/7 GDT : Red Wings at San Jose Sharks, 10:30 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 January 2016 - 12:19 AM

How long before McDonalds realize that most people think Dick Pick when they hear McPick?

#2646571 The Elite Dylan Larkin

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 07 January 2016 - 10:18 PM

I don't respond to people who dismiss plus minus. It's a great stat over time, and that's why it's the third one on the NHL.com stat page. Only 4 stats are tracked for forwards on the leaders page, and that's one of them. People with favorite players at a minus 11 over the first 40 games want to blow the stat off right now. Gee, I wonder why.

I will respond to you though. You got faced, and now you want your tracks covered. The NHL has deemed Dylan Larkin elite. His peers deem him elite. You're just having a vocabulary issue right now. That's all. And that's why I still got your back, brah. You're good!

You're arguing against your own position here. It is a stat that can say something with context (comparing to other players on a team) or, yes, over a longer period of time. When a player has played around, say, 39 games like Larkin has, it can often be inflated one way on the other.


For instance, Mr. Nyquist was +16 in 57gp in 13-14. Last year, he was -11. Which one tells his story? both do. You have to wait a longer period of time.

#2646105 Redwings interested in kirby rychel?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 04 January 2016 - 09:16 PM

Rychel was a first rounder because daddy fed him a ton of minutes and told his team to make sure Kirby got plenty of shots, according to a couple pre draft reports I read about him.

His father traded him from the Spitfires to the Guelph Storm and his points were just as good or better (his OHL playoff 32pts in 20gp were definitely better than his playoff #s with the spits) on a team where his father had no influence. I'm not sure if that happened after he was drafted, but it still discounts those claims.

#2645930 Jeff Blashill = Dave Lewis 2.0 / Coaching Change

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 04 January 2016 - 01:04 AM


His nose?

#2645464 Can Harry Potter help the Wings?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 January 2016 - 09:35 PM

I like that he's wearing the magic man's jersey. 


Maybe Tatar borrowed the invisibility cloak last night.


Any more bad Harry Potter/Wings jokes? and....go!

#2645167 Forward Line Combos/Discussion

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 December 2015 - 04:09 PM






or these top 2 lines would be good too since I'm not sure Rich Lark-Ny would work:




#2645112 Goalie Battle

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 December 2015 - 04:57 AM


Frankly I don't care WHO is starting but so far neither Mrazek nor Howard are worth of any hype. They both have had solid to great games and then not so good ones. Unless someone is emerging as the true number 1 there really is no point in arguing over semantics. Wheter people want to admit it or not but Mrazek needs to work on his consistency because a number 1 goaltender is expected to start around 70 games a season and if you aren't consistent doing that, you'll find yourself in a backup role.


If people want to give Mrazek 4 games and then Howard 4 games that's also fine but making an inconsistent goalie the number 1 is not going to help matters. The definition of an average team is winning a bunch of games followed by losing a bunch of games that's exactly what this team is and my mind the goaltending is not problem number 1. That still is the defense and the absolutely unwillingness to box players out of the crease.

I don't get this. Both goalies have been very good this year. Howard has just recently hit this bad patch with 2 bad games. 


Mrazek has had about 2 or 3 bad goals, but I haven't really seen him have a bad game. His save percentage is tied for 6th in the league. His GAA is 16th - just behind Quick and Schneider. He's played pretty much as good as anyone can realistically expect from a goalie in their 1st full season. If you're not excited about him I don't what to tell you. He was inconsistent last year, but I think all goalies not named Lundquist need time to get used to the league and be solid consistently. The much vaunted Price struggled 08-10 and many (idiots) here in Montreal wanted him gone (The Halak story). Holtby's develop is probably closest to Petr's since they both were eased into the league. Holtby only took the full load last year after 4 years (14g, 7g, 36g,48) If Petr continues to mirror that path, then he would take the full load next year. Anyway, with Howard around we have a safeguard as he gets to that point.


70 games is high for a starting goalie. Only goalies like Price and Lundquist do that as their usual year load. From a quick incomplete search: Fleury, Scheinder, Niemi, Varly, Bishop have never played 70. Crawford, Bobrovsky have never even started 60. For an undisputed #1 it's around 60.

#2644557 2015/2016 Around The League

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 December 2015 - 07:35 PM


It's boring to watch, teams can't keep their developed teams together aren't able to add key pieces I wouldn't call that a strong point, more like the opposite.

That's not what I see.


There are powerhouses: Blackhawks, Kings.


Teams can add key pieces: Gaborik to Kings a few years back, Luongo to Flo Rida seems to be going pretty well for them, Dallas has swung deals for Spezza, Seguin, Sharp, Oduya. Plenty of "Key" pieces moving.


It was hard to keep powerhouses together even before the cap since winning players have always cost more. Teams now lock up the top echelon, the next teir get over-payed by another team. Then you have to replace from the draft or pick up from College, international leagues, or waivers. Can be done, ask Blackhwks and Panarin.

#2644405 12/26 GDT : Red Wings at Nashville Predators, 8:00 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 December 2015 - 10:27 PM

Anybody else think Smith is really wanting to chip in offensively?

He's really good at stepping forward for an unexpected one-timer. Sadly not many of the shots go in.


Really Blash? Glendening Helm and Datsyuk. I know we're trying to protect a lead, but haven't we learned that sitting back on a goal lead isn't that best idea. I do like that we put the kid line back together, though I know it's only because Larkin is out. Hopefully they impress and Larkin or Nyquist go on Datsyuk's wing when he's back


Edit: Actual Glendening is the goal scorer and Richards hasn't been great so I changed my mind. It's fine.

#2644361 Anybody think this is legit?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 December 2015 - 07:23 PM

If you're looking for a budget jersey, apparently there's a blowout sale on Weiss jerseys here:




I'd be careful wearing the cursed #90 jersey, though. I think your chances of getting hit by a car or falling down a flight of stairs would rise dramatically. 

#2644247 12/22 GDT : New Jersey Devils at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 23 December 2015 - 08:13 PM

I don't understand why this is a thing?


Nobody has a problem when people point out Ericsson's terrible play.


Nobody has a problem when people point out Kindl's terrible play.


Nobody has a problem when people point out Helm's terrible hands.


They've had good games and bad games, but nobody has a problem when people suggest these players be used differently or even off the team entirely.


When these things do happen, nobody goes around bemoaning the "Ericsson Hate Brigade" or the "Kindl Hate Brigade" or the "Helm Hate Brigade".


But my god, Howard has a bad game or does something stupid and your first reaction "Oh MY gOD I MuST DEFeNd HIm FroM teh HatE SquADS!!!!11"

Hate is when posters were saying they'd rather lose with Mrazek than win with Jimmy. Hate is when people were dissing Jimmy when he had the better stats. I'm sure the previous poster was referring to those people, who attacked him without any ammo. Now they have ammo and you know they're going to run with it.


I don't think anyone said you can't criticize Jimbo. He deserves some criticism, but it is one game while he's been solid otherwise (except shootouts, of course).

#2643995 Wings Need on D and Glaring Inconsistencies

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 December 2015 - 05:17 PM


Only 7 defencmen in the entire league have a caphit of 7 mil or more.


That includes Doughty, Subban, Weber and Suter.


How good do you think Dekeyser is??  


He's not a top 2 defenceman.


His caphit will come in right around Kronwall and Ericsson range.

DK is a RFA so his caphit won't be astronomical, but probably on the following deal he will have a larger cap hit than Kronwall or Ericsson. Those deals were signed a while ago and they will always trend up. I do think he's a top pairing defensemen (but I like us keeping him on the 2nd pair for depth reasons). Anyway, he's only 25 and I see him developing his game more.


He hasn't been great this year but I think that's due to the fact that he's been experimenting more. Lots of times you'll catch him up with the rush of even down below the goal line in the O zone. That hasn't been his game in the past. Also, he's been switching partners a bit this year which doesn't help.

#2643800 Mike Green

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 21 December 2015 - 10:27 AM

I think Green's been great. He hasn't put up his usual numbers, but I think he's been among our best D men. 


Getting a player of his age and achievement at that contract and term on free agency was out of the norm of giant contracts and 7+ terms. I don't see how anyone can complain about that contract.