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#2618715 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 02 July 2015 - 12:48 PM

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I would consider moving Helm. Krsmith, just looking at your proposed lineup, he looks out of place on that fourth line now, but I've got the exact same top-nine in mind. I can't see him getting "fourth-line" money. Who knows what he's going to ask for next offseason. Abdelkader and DeKeyser will be in for bigger raises, Sheahan and Mrazek smaller ones.

I'd like to see what the team has in Jurco and Pulkkinen, and they're in good shape with Larkin/Athanasiou not far behind. I wouldn't go so far as to call Helm expendable, but he had a good season and he's got younger guys right behind him with higher offensive ceilings.

Edit: Just to clarify, I don't think they'll move Helm. I think they'll kind of do a slow build with Pulkkinen, getting him to earn his ice time. If Mule is healthy, probably use Jurco on the 4th line with Miller-Glendening, which I'm not a fan of at all.

I'm a huge Helm fan and I think he adds a lot of energy and speed to the team and wouldn't want to let him go. I don't think he'll get that much in the offseason unless he has a huge season, but you're right that he won't get 4th line money.


We do have too many forwards, though, and we will also have to deal with the cap and new contracts. We'll have Richards' 4 million cap coming off next year (nhlnumbers says there's a 1 mill bonus) Quincey's 4.25 will also be gone. We'll also have some small contracts likely to take these places (Larkin, Marchenko, Ouelette)


If anyone has to feel the pinch, I would let it be Miller over Helm. I like Miller, but Helm adds more and is a better PKer, can play in most situations. 

#2618694 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 02 July 2015 - 11:26 AM



My childhood hero and all time favourite player.


I don't think they would mention it unless it was going to happen.

#2618577 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 July 2015 - 08:56 PM


So what # would you rather see retired, 91 for Feds or 90 just so no FA signing ever has to wear 90 in Detroit again?  

Between those options I'd say #90. I mean, 3rd time's the charm, right?

#2618575 Free agents this off season

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 July 2015 - 08:54 PM

I hope Monster lands somewhere.

#2618045 Phil Kessel Traded to Penguins

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 July 2015 - 01:34 PM

About as many as he normally does...maybe less. 


You know how many goals Chris Kunitz scored on Crosby's wing?  About as many as he did before he was on Crosby's wing. 


Hossa on Datsyuk's wing?  Same has before he was on Datsyuk's wing. 


Playing on Crosby's wing isn't going to make Kessel into Ovechkin. 



Hossa scored 29 in the year previous then scored 40 when paired with Datsyuk. Then in the years following 24, 25, 29. What was the difference? Playing with Datsyuk.


Kunitz has got as high as 35 with Crosby. Previously with the Ducks his highest was 25. Also the mean number is higher during his time with Crosby.


Did you not think someone would check it?

#2617956 Phil Kessel Traded to Penguins

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 July 2015 - 12:20 PM

Kessel will score a ton of goals until playoff time. Pitt GM is an idiot. Dupis and Kunitz became stars playing with Crosby. Definitely did not need Kessel

Dupuis scored 6 goals in 16 games and Kunitz scored 17 in 74. Adding a 30 goal scorer will be huge for them.


Their window is closing in a few years with Crosby and Malkin getting older. Good deal for them.

They just need Defence. I'd keep Erhoff if I were them.

#2617514 Alexander semin being bought out

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 June 2015 - 01:05 PM

Abdlekader - Datsyuk - Semin

Zetterberg - Sheahan - Nyquist

Tatar - Helm - Franzen

Miller- Glendenning - Jurco





Unless Holland's seriously planning on making a trade, that's too many forwards.

Andersson also. Agreed, too many forwards to add anyone except by trade.

#2617474 Mike Richard's Contract Terminated (Not Bought Out)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 June 2015 - 11:06 AM

Wow.  Did he have sex with a pornstar on the GM's desk?    

#2617152 #73 OA - Defenseman Vili Saarijarvi

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 June 2015 - 06:08 PM

I consider anyone under 5'11" to be on the small end in today's game. I don't see why you would list forwards. I have no problem drafting small, skilled forwards. We have one in Tomas Tatar and another one coming up full time next season in Teemu Pulkkinen that I'm really excited about... I don't like drafting small, skilled defensemen. I think the chance of success as a defender decreases drastically when they lack size. I'm not saying you need to draft big hulking guys with no skill, but there's not a doubt in my mind that there were much better options available when we picked Saarijarvi... There are only about 10 defenders in the league right now that I would consider undersized, none of which I would consider top pair defensemen and none I would want on this team... That's just my opinion though... Some may want a Krug, Ellis, Vatanen or Enstrom, I'd pass on all 4...

Cause I was showing guys 5'10" that have made the league. I was showing my point - didn't know I was supposed to read your mind and respond to your line of thinking. If you want to restrict the converstaion to D men, fine. You've listed a number of guys 5'10" and under who have made it to the NHL. I would also add Tyson Barrie. We do actually have some big guys on D, if Vili is a great offensive guy it would be fine to have one undersized guy back there. 


I appeciate that you thought there were better options. I haven't judged the pick, yet myself since I don't know much about him. I just don't think that size is everything (insert penis joke here).


I would like very much if he became Krug, Rafalski, Ryan Ellis, Tyson Barrie...

#2616929 2015 Draft

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 27 June 2015 - 11:26 AM

I'm not going to judge too early on this draft because Holland and co. have proven successful at the draft table, but I'm not at all impressed so far either. Really haven't addressed and needs in my opinion. Big skilled Russian winger looks good, but undersized defenseman and a goaltender... Not impressed...

But we do need a goalie with Mrazek moving up and we got a RH defenceman. Those sound like our needs to me

#2615525 Free agents this off season

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 June 2015 - 06:33 PM

Don't think Nyquist is an emerging star

Good player yes, emerging star, no

Regardless, We're rebuilding - you don't trade young talent and a first rounder for a player at the end of their career in that situation.


I'll really hoping for Franson. Yandle would be great if it didn't take too much - otherwise wait for him to be a UFA next year.

#2614576 REPORT: Axel Holmstrom Signs With Detroit

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 June 2015 - 09:04 PM

He's a cross between Axl Rose and Tomas Holmstrom.   

Then he won't show up on time and won't get along very well with teammates.

#2614214 Here we go AGAIN - Coyotes, part DUH!

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 13 June 2015 - 11:20 AM


Quebec is far from a slam dunk market.  What has changed from the 90's?  Are they going to have more corporate and government support?  Will they still insist focusing on how French they are and have problems getting English language coverage?


I'm not convinced the Jets have a long term future either.  They have a small arena, and even with selling out almost every game they're only the 20th valued NHL franchise.  If they don't win consistently, which was their major problem in Atlanta, the novelty of having "Our Jets" back will wear off and fans will stop spending the money on games.

We did this conversation last year so I know no one is going to convince you, but I'll respond a bit.


The "If they don't win consistently..." argument ignores how dedicated people are to hockey up north. The Oilers have sucked for how long? and they've sold out 100% for at least the 10 years that this chart goes:




...and they're building a larger arena. 


The Jets and Oilers demand some of the largest ticket prices and still get 100% attendance.


They may not get the largest crowds, but that's because of small arenas. Ticket revenue is different. Jets are 16th, Calgary 11th, Edmonton 14th. 




Edmonton's revenue will go up when they get their larger arena. Jets could probably move to a bigger place in the coming years. They're planning to add about 300 seats, but that's not enough, obviously.


Their media revenue will be higher now due to the sportsnet deal which shows many more games (especially compared to the 90s)


A lot has changed economically since the 90s. The salary cap changes everything, to start with. One of the huge factors for the Jets and Nordiques leaving was that they couldn't compete financially with other team for free agents - now the playing field is pretty even in that respect.


It was also the era of Bettman growing the game into the U.S. and so the league was more than willing to take the opportunity to take a team south.

#2613081 Khan: Jeff Blashill to be announced new head coach next week

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 03 June 2015 - 10:18 PM

The announcement will be made by this guy:

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#2612255 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 May 2015 - 11:40 PM


Mostly off the top of my head are top hometown draft picks that played a vital role for each Cup-winning team since the cap has been in place. In parentheses are top picks who played a minor role.

2006 Hurricanes--Staal (Ladd)
2007 Ducks--Selanne though he left for several years. Getzlaf and Perry are picked late enough in the first round to not count. Pronger and Neidermayer weren't homegrown obviously.
2008 Red Wings--None
2009 Penguins--Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Staal
2010 Blackhawks--Toews, Kane, maybe Seabrook at 14th overall
2011 Bruins--None (Seguin not vital but got him from drafting Kessel)
2012 Kings--Doughty, Kopitar, Brown, and Johnson got them Carter
2013 Blackhawks--Same as 2010
2014 Kings--Same as 2012

This year, it's either Chicago again or Tampa which drafted Stamkos and Hedman, while using Drouin sparingly.

So I'd say us and the Bruins are the only teams in the cap era that didn't win our Cups with the help of top 10 draft picks. But we were incredibly lucky picking up Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg when we did in the draft. That's like winning the lottery three times and I don't think we'll ever be quite so lucky again. Honestly, I see us as becoming a team with good depth in the future, but lacking the star power to consistently be much of a threat. Our only hope is Mrazek becoming a truly elite netminder and Larkin to develop like Bergeron or Toews (don't believe he has anything near 2008 Datsyuk or Zetterberg potential). Even then, we have absolutely no elite talent coming up on the blue line. So I'm really not sure what the plan is when Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall decline and retire. We need to hit some more home runs in the draft obviously.

I look at it this way: Datsyuk, Z, Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Franzen, Kronwall, Osgood, Hudler, Filppula, McCarty, Kopecky, Meech Helm (didn't play in playoffs) were all homegrown draft picks on that 2008 team. Yes, none of them were top picks. That's a team built pretty much the same we're rebuilding now - with lower picks, UFAs (Rafalski, Lebda, Lilja, Hasek, Cleary, Drake, Draper - or 1 dollar "trade") then a few well timed trades (Maltby, Stuart, Chelios).


Drafting Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg isn't just luck. We have a former scout as GM and a great scouting staff. We already have some very good recent young pieces up front in Tatar, Nyquist, and Sheahan. Larkin, Mantha, AA...we may have a few more. Lucked out with DD and Glendening showing up. Marchenko looks great. We have Jensen Ouellet Sproul waiting in the wings. I feel great about the team's future.


I know you're talking about stars, though. DD could get to Kronwall's level. Tatar and Nyquist could develop into star forwards (look at Hudler's career trajectory). As you suggested, Mrazek looks like a stud. Larkin or Mantha could get there. There is a possiblity that we become a team with just good depth after D,Z,K, leave, but we have more players than just Mrazek who have a very high ceiling in terms of potential.


Selanne wasn't drafted by the Ducks - he was drafted by The Jets. With your reasoning, that would make those 2007 Ducks another example of cup winning team without top draft homegrown draft picks.