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#2540211 Babcock " I dont think it will be my final year here"

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 11 October 2014 - 08:44 PM

Babcock is a good coach but he gets stubborn and tries to prove that he's the smartest guy in the room at times. Insisting on Glendening as the 4th center and Abdelkader on a top line , for example. It's probably time for him to move on.

So far this year, Glendening is proving you wrong. Why do you think Glendening can't be a 4th line center? He's very good defensively, is a good PKer. Is very good on faceoffs, can take assignments against top lines...and he hasn't even played a full year in the league.




#2539116 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 08 October 2014 - 04:49 PM

What I want to know is with all the recent press how come there's no statement on the situation. No reporter has ask Babcock why Weiss is in grey? Instead they keep asking about his contract after he keeps repeating the same things.




#2538894 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 07 October 2014 - 04:45 PM

 

According to Babs Holland not "we" [Babcock and him] made the decision but whatever.

You really need a quote for a claim like that. Besides, "We" is Holland, Ryan Martin, Jim Devellano, Babcock, and probably Draper and maybe Chelios. We don't really the dynamics of how the group makes decisions.

 

I don't really know why everyone is so surprised. Ouellet deserves to play over Kindl, but Kindl has a pretty big contract and we need to trade him if we want XO to replace him. If we sent Kindl down, he's a 1.475 against the cap for the next 3 years because nobody is going to trade for him if he can't even make the roster. Let him play a bit at the at the beginning of the year and hopefully either he goes back to 12-13 form or we find a trading partner.

 

Only other option was send Lashoff down and he's just fine as our #7. 




#2538859 Krys Barch unloads his frustrations

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 07 October 2014 - 03:57 PM

 

Who wouldn't ? Miller brings nothing to the table, Orr is as tough as they come and Toottoo while not as tough will hit everything that moves.

If I'm Malkin, Stamkos, or any skilled player - my team is on the PP - I'd much prefer playing against a penalty killing TooToo or Orr than Miller.




#2538614 Holland interview with Mickey comment about a trade

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 06 October 2014 - 06:00 PM

I miss Eva, and his arguments that Kronwall was better than Housley based upon the number of 17th place Norris votes that he received or somesuch :D. Every now and then he would pull out a brilliantly sane and lucid argument though. He had Aspergers, so I was willing to cut him a lot of slack. Mindfly I don't miss at all. Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

Wasn't Eva the Hudler lover? maybe you'll find him/her on the Flames board.




#2538457 Callahan, Ferraro and Porter placed on Waivers

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 05 October 2014 - 02:21 PM

Nestrasil might just be around cause tatar is injured.

Tatar is ready to play.

 

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#2538406 10/4 Final Preseason GDT: Detroit Red Wings vs Boston Bruins

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 04 October 2014 - 10:22 PM

Anyone else want to admit that Quincey had a really good game?

 

He showed some good offensive push as well. If he plays like this year i'll be happy.




#2538125 TSN Luke Schenn could be available

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 03 October 2014 - 11:25 AM

 

And Canadian. And Don Cherry likes guys like this. And he was a good coach that time in 1976. I say we trade our best Euro for this kid.

As Don Cherry would say: "These are the type of guys that you win with". As proven by the Leafs the last few years.




#2537508 We're Down One Goose

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 September 2014 - 01:36 PM

People seem to think this only happens to us. And there are many comments about our players being weak pansies who are made of glass, etc. It's kind of understandable since most here focus on the Wings and don't follow other teams to the same extent. The whole league is like this, though. I think it's just the effects of the faster, bigger league. Here's some other teams' current situations to give some perspective:

 

Pens: Malkin still not skating, Crosby missed the beginning of camp, Beau Bennett has a knee injury, Robert Bertuzzo possibly has a significant injury

Kings: Derek Stepan out with broken fibula.

Philly: Giroux (lower body), Timonnen (blood clots) Couturier, Emery injured, Bellemare as well (who's he?),

Leafs: Bozak, Robidas (leg), Clarkson all injured. Tallinder also (PTO)

Rangers: Malone out(hip flexor)

Carolina: Jordan Stall (broken leg)

Bruins: Cambell still hasn't skated, Camara (illness), Pasternak (probably wouldn't have made the team)

Lightning: Druin (fractured thumb)

Avalanche: McGinn, Bordeleau (both had back surgery) minor injuries to Gabe Landeskog, Max Talbot and Ryan O'Reilly and Jan Hejda

Columbus: Horton will miss start of season (back pain)

Canadiens: Eller injured plus a lot of prospects: McCarron, Grimoire, Connor Crisp, Dalton Thrower, Stefan Fournier and Jack Nevins

Wild: Harding out indefinitely (foot injury)

Ducks: Palmeiri, Shea Thodore




#2537433 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 27 September 2014 - 02:41 PM

 

36 year old Pavel Datsyuk is not some magic cure all for bad talent.  If that was the case, we wouldn't be in this mess.  Darren Helm isn't a top six winger.  He's never been a winger, and until a year ago he's never been a top sixer.  Why would you think he'd have a career year immediately after being moved to a new position?  If anything, it'll be a wash.  I wish this team would stop screwing around trying to jam square pegs into round holes just because Holland, or Babcock, or both have a boner for this player or that one and can't make hard decisions. 

You're definitely stretching my words with the magic cure comment. I do think that playing with Zetterberg and Datsyuk will help out Helm more than Miller and Abdelkader and whoever else he usually plays with.

 

Filppula had his career year when he was moved to Zetterberg's wing. Don't argue that Helm isn't Filppula, i know, i know. The point is it often helps centermen production when they switch to wing and don't have all the same defensive responsibility. It does depend on how they make the transition, but I don't see it as that likely that Helm won't be able to play wing.

 

I don't know about the boner comment, Helm was relegated to the 4th line last year. He's too good for the 4th line. We've got too many centers - not enough elite wingers. Like i said twice, i just think it's worth a shot. 




#2537430 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 27 September 2014 - 01:52 PM

 

Helm rode an unsustainably high shooting percentage to the best numbers of his career and then fell off completely.  He'll never post numbers like that again in his career.  Take it to the bank. 

 

Anyway, my point still stands. Yes, he probably won't keep up that shooting percentage, but he's not Abdelkader. He scored 11 in 2010-11 and 12 in 2011-12 (and would have got around the sam in 12-13 if he didn't miss the last 24 games) while playing on the 3rd line without D or Z and without PP time. If he plays top line minutes with Datsyuk he'll have a career year. I think you can bank on that. even abby upped his totals. I think it would make helm at least a 15 goal scorer - making up those 3 goals that you said would make an upgrade.

 

But we don't really know what will happen with Helm at wing. Maybe Datsyuk's passing ability and Helm's speed will create many opportunities for breaks. Maybe Helm being freed from the defensive responsibility will help him find more offence. Maybe he just won't be suited to the play along the board and will only play there a couple of games. I say give him a chance, then Jurco or Mantha get a shot. 




#2536443 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 17 September 2014 - 03:17 PM

 

If we are a playoff caliber team, Babcock should be able to elevate us to being a Stanley Cup contender - top coach plus playoff-caliber team should at least be in that discussion, right? If Babcock can only squeak us into the playoffs, the roster isn't playoff caliber. A playoff caliber team, in my mind, controls their own destiny and doesn't need a couple 'breaks' or puck bounces to eek into the 6-7-8 spot. Depending on which season preview you read, we're not even picked to finish that well...

You just have unique definitions of that term. For most playoff caliber would mean able to make the playoffs and making the playoff would be proof of that. You seem to discount the lower seeds as playoff caliber because they usually don't "control there own destiny." That's going to be an uphill battle against common sense, I think.

 

It is possible that we wouldn't have made the playoffs with a different coach, but it's also possible we would have finished higher without our injury woes. Both are what ifs - I think it's better just to deal with what did happen and we did make the playoffs. Also, I have not come across a commentator who's predicting we won't this year with the same roster.

 

I also disagree your rhetorical question, "top coach plus playoff-caliber team should at least be in that discussion, right?." I've never heard anyone argue that a lower seeded playoff team was a contender because of their coaching - it's always that the team underperformed during the season or they made some big deadline aquistions.




#2536374 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 September 2014 - 07:43 PM

 

 

His positioning still isn't where it needs to be, and a lot of his mistakes seem to get overlooked by people who would scream bloody murder if Ericsson, Smith, etc. had done it.  He's also physically weak and loses puck battles as a result.  Kronwall is far better, as is Ericsson.

Still, after less than a year, he's not perfect. And he's not better than Our number 1 in his rookie season. Of course!

 

Dickie, I appreciate that you often try to level peoples opinions of certain players, but here i think your expectations of him must be unreasonable. he's played in the league less than a year and already solidified a place in the top 4. 2nd in pts for defencemen (with little pp time). You argued against "his amazing development" in another posts. what did you expect? He's gone from undrafted player to solid top 4 in about 4 years. (2010 was his last draft eligible year) Maybe you're arguing against his NHL development because he really good when he first made the team? he has developed a lot since then and been given an increasingly large role.

 

You also said in your other post that he might only become an ok #2. First of all, are we only supposed to be happy with players if they are a future #1? Second, judging a player's ceiling from their rookie season is far from fool proof. Third, you're basically saying that he, as a 24 year old, only has the possibility of improving a very little amount over the rest of his career because I and many others already consider him a solid 2nd pairing defenceman.  




#2536321 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 September 2014 - 03:46 PM

 

Holland has shown a history of paying for potential (See: Kronwall, Filpulla) with hopes that the player grows into the contract. This is a fact.  

 

Obviously the Holland haters are hoping that Kenny offered him 100 dollars/year so that they can be even angrier at the man.

 

But the truth of the matter is, DD's agent is most likely asking for 4M/per.

 

Like I said, with Holland's mostly spotless history of dealing with RFAs, ypu have to think that the friction is coming from the DeKeyser camp.

Also, Holland said in an interview recently "It takes two to make a deal." Holland rarely makes negative public comments about negotiations. It really sounds to me more like DD's agent is the one causing this delay.

 

But anyway, they're having the same argument we are: he's played great and been given a large role, but hasn't played that long in the league. It really is a hard negotiating situation since the are few comparables and it's hard to judge risk. Yes, he stepped in to the NHL without the usual growing pains and looks like he'll only get better, but he's dealt with some injuries and we just haven't seen all that much of him.

 

I'm predicting DD is there for the beginning of camp.




#2536255 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 September 2014 - 09:43 PM

Alfie go out in style no need to put your body through this you've already 68 $ million in your bank account!

 

Sign a day contract in Ottawa and retire as a Senator don't just hang on for the sake of it like Brodeur and Jagr are doing it's just not worth it.

Jagr is still damn good. Alfie was still very good as well, when not dealing with his injuries. 

 

Call me naive, but these guys love the game - they not going to "just hang on for the sake of it". They'll spend the rest of their lives wishing they could still play, so why not try to play as long as it's still possible and you think you can be effective?