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#2545921 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 November 2014 - 03:11 AM


Wow, what talentless linemates poor Weiss has had.   :sleepy:

That wasn't my point and I wasn't defending Weiss - I was just correcting you that Weiss didn't really play with Z or Datsyuk

#2545902 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 31 October 2014 - 10:30 PM


But he never played with either Datsyuk or Zetterberg.  Weiss did.  Besides, the West was much tougher than the East last season.  How can you say it was an easier league? 


Just not as good looking.  

While this seems to be a pointless debate over Weiss vs. McGratten?! and I'm pretty sure you're mostly joking, I'm pretty sure Weiss has played very little or not at all with Z and Datsyuk. He played last year mostly with a combination of Franzen, Alfredsson, Nyquist, etc. 

#2545645 10/31 GDT : Los Angeles Kings (2) at Red Wings (5), 7:30 EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 30 October 2014 - 09:19 PM

I say both Hue Hefner and Mr. Incredible score one. 2-1

#2545481 10/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 @ Capitals 2

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 October 2014 - 09:46 PM

I do hope Franzen gets back soon...so I can read all the folks in all the GDT's calling him out and complaining about him. He has to be the one guy that everyone loves when he is scoring and everyone hates when he isn't.  He does not fool me...never has.  I said it before and will say it again, I don't care if he scored 100 goals in 20 games, because he is going to disappear for the next 30 and then get injured.  I appreciate when he scores, but I am not going to be a fan of his ever, because of the "vacation's" he takes from consistency. And he is replaceable. The last 5 games have proven that.

Yes, I hope he sucks too. Maybe it will really hurt the team and then we can all complain and complain.


Now, come on guys, we just won a big upset game! Abby's our top scorer! (with Nyquist) Maybe he has some actually offensive skill developing like he's been saying in articles. Nyquist is proving that last year wasn't a fluke! D has been better than most thought!

#2545475 10/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 @ Capitals 2

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 October 2014 - 09:38 PM

Andersson has his role, and plays it.  Nestrasil is a rookie and plays his role very well....Franzen does not play his role, unless playing his role means, get a bushel of points in 3 games, then take 10 off, then get hurt.  I give him credit, he was doing pretty good.  I was hoping this could be the year he returned to some kind of form...but then he got injured...again. No doubt, he can score when he plays 100% and is healthy, but he is a fragile doll today.  That's all.  IMO Nestrasil, Jurco and Andersson do the job they are asked of them night after night...Franzen not so much.

Apparently Nestrasil's role is to be the struggling, nearly invisible rookie. He does play that role quite well.


So far this year, Franzen has been good defensively, energetic, more physical. You are are going to bee alone in your opinion here, LeftWinger

#2545072 10/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 @ Capitals 2

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 29 October 2014 - 06:50 PM



I wish this was on Sportsnet so we could see the refs cam. I think it would be view up his own ass.

#2544929 Devallano spectator at the Leafs Sabres game tonight

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 October 2014 - 10:49 PM

Yeah, probably Myers, but Franson also, possibly

#2544864 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 28 October 2014 - 05:28 PM



Article from a week ago. This now makes 6 weeks (I think) from the injury and they said 6-8 weeks. He'll obviously need some time to build up strength and get back to speed, but it'll be great to see him in a Game in GR in the not too distant future.

#2544699 Babcock "I don't think it will be my final year here"

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 October 2014 - 08:21 PM


I do agree with you on this point.  I really don't see the need to make a change unless we have someone better.  Is Blashill better?  Keep in mind before he went to the minors and coached the Griffins to a Calder Cup, he was viewed as a weak assistant coach with the Wings.  People even saw it as a demotion to coach the Griffins after he spent one year with the Wings.  I am not saying he is doomed to failure in the NHL.  Just that he is untested in the NHL coaching ranks.

I think it was actually the organization's plan to have Blashill spend a with year Babcock and learn all the systems and then take that to GR so that the transition for call ups would be easier. I don't think it was a demotion at all - I get the feeling it was planned all along.


I admit there's some personal speculation, but so is yours - I never heard anywhere that Blashill was considered a weak assisstant.

#2544341 future captains?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 25 October 2014 - 02:03 PM

Smith definitely won't be captain. He's been arrested twice and doesn't seem like the sharpest knife in the drawer. Tatar also seems to lack the smarts to wear a letter.

My money would be on DeKeyser--just the intelligence in his game and the way he seems to handle himself off the ice. And I'd put Nyquist behind him for pretty much the same reasons.

Of our prospects, Larkin, Nastasiuk, Ouellet, and possibly even Mantha, I could see wearing letters one day.

In interviews Smith actually seems to be one of the more articulate players around. I don't see him as captain, though. He's got a bit of a temper/ and shows his frustration on the ice, which is okay with me, but our Captains have been steadying figures for the team. Maybe he'll change as he develops, though. DD does fit that mould, but he would have to develop into a #1 D (which I could see).

#2542167 10/18 GDT - Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 1 (OT)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 18 October 2014 - 05:18 PM


I want to see what Weiss can do, It could be Cleary though.


It's Weiss if Franzen can't play



#2541750 Jeff Petry; trade between us and oilers

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 17 October 2014 - 04:52 PM

He had to leave because of custody issues with his teenage step daughter (wife's ex wouldn't let daughter live out of state, so his wife and two sons had to live in California year round)  That is why he wouldn't re-sign with the Wings.  I believe she is of legal age now, which is what enabled him to leave the Sharks.  I liked him while he was here, but I don't think he is what the Wings need at this point in time.  Nick Lidstrom made many other defenseman look better than they actually are.

Yeah, I agree that Stuart isn't what we need right now - we need an offensive Righty. But the Lidstrom comment seems a little misplaced because I don't really think Stuart ever really played with Lidstrom. He was almost always with Kronwall.

#2541583 Jeff Petry; trade between us and oilers

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 October 2014 - 05:44 PM


He was very good before he left too.  He had a couple costly turnovers in the playoffs before he left, which everyone blew out of proportion, and so he's not looked upon favorable in hindsight.  By every standard he was an exceptionally good investment during his time with the Wings.

Oops, I meant to say that other have said that his game has fallen off since he left here.


Loved Stuart while he was here. Never wanted him to leave. 

#2541541 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 October 2014 - 03:27 PM

And Nyquist didn't have a point in the preseason.  Who cares?  It's the preseason.  It's not an indicator of anything. 

So in the preseason goalies don't try to stop the puck? 


Preseason play definitely has consequences on who's going to used where and how. It's why Weiss and Cleary are sitting (unless Weiss is secretly injured), and I think it's why Nyquist didn't start on the first line. One of the main reasons there is a preseason is so Coaches can judge players against NHL competition. The fact that Nestrasil scored against Rask in the preseason is a legitimate consideration.


The thing that bothers me most about this is the fact that people are acting like we clearly had multiple superior options. Jurco was 0 for 2 last year, Zetterberg was 0 for 4, Franzen 0 for 2, Nyquist was 0 for 3.


The only players out there last night who scored last year was Tatar (3 for 9) and Helm (1 for 2). Tatar might very well have been the 3rd shooter. We don't know, but I feel that it would be a safe guess.


It really doesn't seem to be that outrageous a choice to put Nestrasil out there when so many of our players have shown that they can't score and Nestrasil scored on the same goalie in a shootout not very long ago.

#2540924 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 October 2014 - 07:23 PM