The good thing is, the Isles have a very cheap owner so if the Wings are serious about getting a top defender Boychuk would be a nice nice addition. Throw 7 x 6 at him and I highly doubt Wang matches it's time for this team to flex their financial muscle again.
I doubt we have the cap room for a 7 mill defender with Nyquist, Jurco and Smith being RFAs next year.
Anyway, Drew Doughty's worthy 7 - Boychuck ain't. He'll make somewhere around Niskanen's 5.75
Babcock is a good coach but he gets stubborn and tries to prove that he's the smartest guy in the room at times. Insisting on Glendening as the 4th center and Abdelkader on a top line , for example. It's probably time for him to move on.
So far this year, Glendening is proving you wrong. Why do you think Glendening can't be a 4th line center? He's very good defensively, is a good PKer. Is very good on faceoffs, can take assignments against top lines...and he hasn't even played a full year in the league.
What I want to know is with all the recent press how come there's no statement on the situation. No reporter has ask Babcock why Weiss is in grey? Instead they keep asking about his contract after he keeps repeating the same things.
According to Babs Holland not "we" [Babcock and him] made the decision but whatever.
You really need a quote for a claim like that. Besides, "We" is Holland, Ryan Martin, Jim Devellano, Babcock, and probably Draper and maybe Chelios. We don't really the dynamics of how the group makes decisions.
I don't really know why everyone is so surprised. Ouellet deserves to play over Kindl, but Kindl has a pretty big contract and we need to trade him if we want XO to replace him. If we sent Kindl down, he's a 1.475 against the cap for the next 3 years because nobody is going to trade for him if he can't even make the roster. Let him play a bit at the at the beginning of the year and hopefully either he goes back to 12-13 form or we find a trading partner.
Only other option was send Lashoff down and he's just fine as our #7.
I miss Eva, and his arguments that Kronwall was better than Housley based upon the number of 17th place Norris votes that he received or somesuch . Every now and then he would pull out a brilliantly sane and lucid argument though. He had Aspergers, so I was willing to cut him a lot of slack. Mindfly I don't miss at all. Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk
Wasn't Eva the Hudler lover? maybe you'll find him/her on the Flames board.
People seem to think this only happens to us. And there are many comments about our players being weak pansies who are made of glass, etc. It's kind of understandable since most here focus on the Wings and don't follow other teams to the same extent. The whole league is like this, though. I think it's just the effects of the faster, bigger league. Here's some other teams' current situations to give some perspective:
Pens: Malkin still not skating, Crosby missed the beginning of camp, Beau Bennett has a knee injury, Robert Bertuzzo possibly has a significant injury
Kings: Derek Stepan out with broken fibula.
Philly: Giroux (lower body), Timonnen (blood clots) Couturier, Emery injured, Bellemare as well (who's he?),
Leafs: Bozak, Robidas (leg), Clarkson all injured. Tallinder also (PTO)
Rangers: Malone out(hip flexor)
Carolina: Jordan Stall (broken leg)
Bruins: Cambell still hasn't skated, Camara (illness), Pasternak (probably wouldn't have made the team)
Lightning: Druin (fractured thumb)
Avalanche: McGinn, Bordeleau (both had back surgery) minor injuries to Gabe Landeskog, Max Talbot and Ryan O'Reilly and Jan Hejda
Columbus: Horton will miss start of season (back pain)
Canadiens: Eller injured plus a lot of prospects: McCarron, Grimoire, Connor Crisp, Dalton Thrower, Stefan Fournier and Jack Nevins
36 year old Pavel Datsyuk is not some magic cure all for bad talent. If that was the case, we wouldn't be in this mess. Darren Helm isn't a top six winger. He's never been a winger, and until a year ago he's never been a top sixer. Why would you think he'd have a career year immediately after being moved to a new position? If anything, it'll be a wash. I wish this team would stop screwing around trying to jam square pegs into round holes just because Holland, or Babcock, or both have a boner for this player or that one and can't make hard decisions.
You're definitely stretching my words with the magic cure comment. I do think that playing with Zetterberg and Datsyuk will help out Helm more than Miller and Abdelkader and whoever else he usually plays with.
Filppula had his career year when he was moved to Zetterberg's wing. Don't argue that Helm isn't Filppula, i know, i know. The point is it often helps centermen production when they switch to wing and don't have all the same defensive responsibility. It does depend on how they make the transition, but I don't see it as that likely that Helm won't be able to play wing.
I don't know about the boner comment, Helm was relegated to the 4th line last year. He's too good for the 4th line. We've got too many centers - not enough elite wingers. Like i said twice, i just think it's worth a shot.
Helm rode an unsustainably high shooting percentage to the best numbers of his career and then fell off completely. He'll never post numbers like that again in his career. Take it to the bank.
Anyway, my point still stands. Yes, he probably won't keep up that shooting percentage, but he's not Abdelkader. He scored 11 in 2010-11 and 12 in 2011-12 (and would have got around the sam in 12-13 if he didn't miss the last 24 games) while playing on the 3rd line without D or Z and without PP time. If he plays top line minutes with Datsyuk he'll have a career year. I think you can bank on that. even abby upped his totals. I think it would make helm at least a 15 goal scorer - making up those 3 goals that you said would make an upgrade.
But we don't really know what will happen with Helm at wing. Maybe Datsyuk's passing ability and Helm's speed will create many opportunities for breaks. Maybe Helm being freed from the defensive responsibility will help him find more offence. Maybe he just won't be suited to the play along the board and will only play there a couple of games. I say give him a chance, then Jurco or Mantha get a shot.
If we are a playoff caliber team, Babcock should be able to elevate us to being a Stanley Cup contender - top coach plus playoff-caliber team should at least be in that discussion, right? If Babcock can only squeak us into the playoffs, the roster isn't playoff caliber. A playoff caliber team, in my mind, controls their own destiny and doesn't need a couple 'breaks' or puck bounces to eek into the 6-7-8 spot. Depending on which season preview you read, we're not even picked to finish that well...
You just have unique definitions of that term. For most playoff caliber would mean able to make the playoffs and making the playoff would be proof of that. You seem to discount the lower seeds as playoff caliber because they usually don't "control there own destiny." That's going to be an uphill battle against common sense, I think.
It is possible that we wouldn't have made the playoffs with a different coach, but it's also possible we would have finished higher without our injury woes. Both are what ifs - I think it's better just to deal with what did happen and we did make the playoffs. Also, I have not come across a commentator who's predicting we won't this year with the same roster.
I also disagree your rhetorical question, "top coach plus playoff-caliber team should at least be in that discussion, right?." I've never heard anyone argue that a lower seeded playoff team was a contender because of their coaching - it's always that the team underperformed during the season or they made some big deadline aquistions.