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#2551529 Saluting the fans

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 24 November 2014 - 01:40 PM


Then they should stop buying tickets and put pressure on the organization to make some fundamental changes.  They're like Lions fans.  If you're sick of losing stop giving them money. 

You know that isn't a realistic idea, right. There's so many hockey fans in and around Toronto they would still sell out even if a large amount of fans stopped buying tickets in some kind of protest. 


With that in mind, maybe it's a little more understandable why leaf fans use their own stupid forms of protest (paperbag masks, jersey on ice, general douchebaggery)

#2550910 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 November 2014 - 02:19 AM

Noooooooo that makes me think his glass groin is still f'd and he's playing timid.

Or maybe he just hasn't play hockey in a long time.

#2550361 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 November 2014 - 08:20 PM

There's a lot of people upset that "we lost him for nothing..." attached to damning of Holland in GMing abilities. There was also a few comments saying that it seemed that the Wings have lost more players for nothing than others. That got me thinking and I was bored so I did some research on Wikipedia. Here's all the players that have been claimed off waiver from each team since the beginning of the 2010-11 season. It shows that we are right in the middle of the pack and it happens to all teams (except the Bruins, apparently). 


Penguins: (7) B.Strait, T.Kostopoulos, Z.Boychuk, S. MacIntyre, D. Jeffrey, M. D'Agostini, Nick Johnson

Kings: (6) T. Hickey R. Clune, Marc-Andre Cliché, Keaton Ellerby, Adam Cracknell, Marco Sturm                 

Blues: (5) Anthony Peluso, Nate Prosser, Taylor Chorney, Marek Svatos, Kyle Wellwood


Panthers: James Wright, Mike Santorelli, Ryan Carter, Michael Grabner

Flyers: Niko Hovinen, Tom Sestito, Blair Betts, Andreas Nodl

Lightning: Adam Hall, Richard Panik, Antti Miettinen, Curtis McElhinney

Oilers: Corey Potter, Taylor Chorney, Gilbert Brule, Ethan Moreau

Islanders: Jack Skille, Blake Comeau, Tim Wallace, Rob Schremp

Ducks: Brian McGrattan, Ben Maxwell, Brendan Mikkelson, Troy Bodie


Blackhawks: Ryan Stanton, Michael Kostka, Nick Boynton

Predators: Zach Boychuk, Taylor Pyatt, Marek Svatos

Red Wings: Joey MacDonald, Andrej Nestrasil, Mattias Ritola

Sabres: Joe Finley, Corey Tropp, Craig Rivet

Hurricanes: Zach Boychuk, Patrick O'Sullivan, Brett Carson

Canadiens: Aaron Palushaj, Jeff Woywitka, Blair Betts

Wild: Zenon Konopka, Colton Gillies, Brad Staubitz


Maple Leafs: Keith Aucoin, Darryl Boyce                 

Devils: Bobby Butler, Alexander Urbom

Coyotes: Brett MacLean, Cal O'Reilly

Rangers: Jeff Halpern, Dale Weise

Stars: Luke Gazdic, Kevin Connauton

Capitals: Roman Hamrlik, Alexander Urbom

Jets: Brett MacLean, Ben Maxwell

Senators: Kaspars Daugavins, Cory Conacher


Flames: Niklas Hagman

Avalanche: Brandon Yip

Blue Jackets: Grant Clitsome

Sharks: Frazer McLaren

Canucks: Aaron Volpatti



#2550187 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 November 2014 - 12:56 PM

What a surprise ... Had a feeling we'd lose him , seems the detroit way to always losing assets for nothing

Would of been nice to at least have gotten a 7th round pick

Hurricanes took him for free. would they have taken him if they had to give up a pick? Maybe not. Especially if they think we're going to waive him eventually.

#2550099 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 20 November 2014 - 03:12 AM

wings had their chance with boychuk....bruins were up against the wall capwise and he HAD to go somewhere.

they should have loaded the deck and tried.

no where did i read of even an ATTEMPT of getting him.

what did long island give up?


smooth defence creates offense. heavy, right hander with a boom shot...solid defensively...heart soul guy....i can see why they passed him up. :glare:


if a general managers job is to put the best team possible on the ice...whats our doing?


kronwall boychuk

dekeyser oulette

jensen, smith



kindl-lashoff-nestrasil  demoted

ericsson/ ferraro/andersson trade out of town

cleary- retire


pulkkinen/ anthasiou  called up

I really think there was 0 chance that the Bruins would have traded Boychuk to a division rival. 


I think Ericsson is having a rough start due to his finger injury and his inability to train all out in the off season. The amount of hate he's gotten this year is shortsighted in my opinion. Hopefully he'll get back to the way he way the past couple of years. 

#2550062 Forsberg in HOF, Fedorov equal?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 19 November 2014 - 06:17 PM

Yeah, I guess I was unclear what I meant. My post does say I think it'll be LIds, Feds, Pronger - and that'll be deserving.  I've just always hated Pronger - I kind of just meant anyone else instead of that guy. There's no way the Kariya should actually be there ahead of Pronger. That fact that you guys got up in arms shows that there's no real question about this class, though. 


I did really like Kariya's character as a player, though - great speed, vision. But his career was messed up by concussions and he played on some pretty bad teams. 

#2549627 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 18 November 2014 - 02:09 AM

I think we should trade Andersson or Nestrasil for Pulkkinen. Then we trade Kindl for Oulette or Marchenko.


The only problem is that I've heard that the Griffins' GM doesn't like to make trades.

#2549250 11/16 GDT : Montreal Canadiens 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 16 November 2014 - 05:56 PM


I live in Texas.  I know all about football freaks, Heaven help me, they're lunatics for football here... and pretend to know nothing of hockey.  This, despite the FACT that the current Calder Cup winning team sells out every single game here in Austin.  It's all about the money, and which franchise gets the tv dollars flowing, etc.


If I lived in or near Detroit, I would certainly have season tix to the Wings.  But I guess having such a great franchise right under their noses makes some locals complacent.  Very lucky to live near enough to attend...

But when they do actually appreciate hockey in your city and there's a great franchise, sadly, you can't afford any of the tickets.

#2549134 General discussion for tonight's games

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 November 2014 - 08:26 PM

3-0 for Sabres over the Leafs. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#2549118 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 15 November 2014 - 01:28 PM

I'm not sure if those of you that commented on the game actually watched the game or not but Mantha played great. It was his first game of pro hockey, no one was expecting him to have a 3 or 4 point night like he did regularly in junior. Every time he touched the puck he made things happen, he was dominant, despite not making it on the score sheet and registering only one shot on goal. The thing that impresses me the most is his size, and the fact that he uses that size to his advantage. He was a huge player in junior, but he was a boy amongst men down there, and he seemed reluctant to make those big hits. He sure wasn't last night, he laid a few great hits. There were a couple times when he had the puck, skating along the boards and he man-handled the opposition. There were two instances that I remember, in which he was double teamed by the Stars defenders in the offensive zone and he easily came away with the puck, he was winning every puck battle.


Although he only registered the one shot, he did ring one off the post in the third, and it was sitting there in the crease but Pulkkinen couldn't get a stick on it to bury the rebound. He was on the ice for a goal for and a goal against but finished with a -1 because both goals came on the Griffins power-play. The Stars, Travis Morin scored a short-handed goal in the first, which actually came off a bad giveaway by Mantha, it was on his very first shift of the game, imagine the nerves he was feeling, but after that one giveaway he played unbelievable. He had the *third assist* on the Griffins first goal that came on the power-play to start the second period. All in all I was very impressed with his pro debut, and he is going to be a great player.

I agree. I only saw the 3rd period/OT, but he did not look like someone who was just coming off an injury or playing in his first pro game - to me he looked like he was driving the play, hard forechecking, and very dangerous offensively. And he will only get better. Very encouraging first game. 

#2548782 Joe Hicketts

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 13 November 2014 - 11:41 PM

Saw this article. They don't mention any names, but it's pretty easy to guess. The Wings only have 2 prospects from B.C. and the other is a Ferrarro.




Hope it doesn't get in the way of his development since he impressed in camp.

#2548632 Stars trade Sergei Gonchar for Travis Moen from MTL

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 12 November 2014 - 01:13 AM



I do understand your point about making too many trades, but sitting still and hoping one day the team is 100% healthy (which will never happen this year) or hoping that certain players return to their former (WAY former) glory, is NOT making this team any better. We having gaping holes up front and on D. Hoping doesn't win Cups, doing does. Maybe nobody wants to dance with us, we all know nobody wants our scraps, but maybe up the offering.  Include established NHL'rs and some high draft picks.  I am all for winning with the players I know and love (well, love most of them.) But if a trade is made for the greater good (and I don't mean a 1st rounder for KFQ) and I have to say goodbye to an established player to better my team? It has to be done...

Ya, and all Holland does re-sign washed up players and refuse to cut losses where losses need to be cut even when better players become available, he still keeps the worse ones in hopes that they haven't already peaked....but they have. But that is fine, he is the greatest GM of all time and he will bring us a Cup.

Well actually we are pretty much 100% healthy - Weiss and Datsyuk say they're ready this weekend. The monster is out, but it doesn't really matter since we've got Mrazek to cover for him. 

#2548534 Lines Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 10 November 2014 - 11:24 PM

toplines I'd like to see:


Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Hossa

Hudler - Filppula - (ScoringWinger)


Hopefully that Franzen guy turns out to be more than a 3rd liner

I see you got the flux capacitor working again.

#2548440 11/9 GDT - Tampa Bay 4 at Detroit 3 (SO) - 6:00 PM EST

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 09 November 2014 - 09:11 PM

they do practice SO's...problem is, they practice them on Jimmy Howard who is never a challenge to beat in a SO. The shooters are given a false sense that they can actually score in a SO.


also, f*** Franzen for ***** footing the potential game winner at the goalie. I will never be over the fact that Hossa has reached 1000 points and we are stuck with this "serious contract." Serious hot garbage.

Franzen: 9gp 4g 6a 10pts  0+/-

Hossa: 14gp  2g 4a  6pts   -2


I'm not trying to say Franzen's better - You just need to pick as better time to complain about him. He scored tonight probably stopped the winning goal for  Tampa in OT when he pummelled the player digging at Jimmy. He's been playing really well this year.

#2546632 Lines Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 04 November 2014 - 06:23 PM


Yup.  And that didn't work out.  So maybe we should think about what to do next.  Either that or sit around making excuses about why it can't be any other way than what it is. 


And guess what, Darren Helm probably isn't the answer. 

Edit:  Now watch, Helm will go off for a goal or two tonight and make me look like a complete ******* lol. 

But, Helm is playing 3rd line center tonight, lol. I think Helm will pick it up soon - people forget that he was injured and missed most of training camp and preseason. He's been playing well recently.


After having this conversation with you a few times, kip, I think I understand you more and I think most people's opinions are not really that different. The big problem is that we don't have 6 sure-thing top 6 player. (We've got Z,D,Mule,Nyquist) that leaves 2 holes (1 if you allow Abby in his role). We also have too many centers. With this situation, Babcock has to get creative. The one thing I don't understand is why you usually curse Babcock when he's just dealing with what he's got. I think supporters of Helm on the second line wing are thinking about managing the players we have. You were vehemently apposed to Abby on the first line and he seems to claiming his spot. Helm has always put up more points than Abby so it is not inconceivable that he could work in that role. 


Conversely, I think most would agree that making a trade to fix our two offensive problems could be good. This is where I think the real conversation is, I think. And I think there's a few specific issues:


1. Which of the extra centers do we trade? Sheahan or Helm (I don't think Glen is getting us much) Trading Weiss is looking to be the most ideal situation, but that would likely just be a salary dump.


2. Do we trade for a #2 Center or a scoring winger? If you're still holding out hope for Weiss then Winger would probably be the choice. But if Weiss is still here, I don't really see any way we can sign another center. We also have Mantha who we hope will take one of those spots next year. Any trade will have to give up good assets - Is it worth it if we have a top winger coming next year? 


3. Shouldn't we be trading for a RH offensive defenceman? Mantha is on the horizon - If he pans out and Weiss regains his form, our top 6 problem is solved without making any moves up front. If that looks likely than I'd rather have Abby and Helm hold down the fort until that happens. Maybe Alfie still plugs one of those holes for a bit this year, as well.


And...I think all of that leads to Weiss being the real problem - we need to know where he's at before we know which direction to go. Until then Babs will be creative and we'll either see Helm on the wing with Z or Dats - or this 2A 2B line thing that we've got tonight.