Aside from the goals and Abbys hat trick, my favorite part had to be when the Wings shot it out and the refs had a little meeting and ruled no penalty, and then the camera pans to a close up of Boudreau cursing at the refs, and Redmond says;
"and you can see what Mickey Rooney thinks about that!"
They just explained why they "couldn't" review it. And from what I understand, the ref STILL screwed up, because Miller HAD NO PART in touching the puck. I hope the Wings get really really ticked.
Well, almost everyone here, as evidenced by the thread the other week about allowing challenges, is in favor of this blown refs call and disallowing the good goal. I was one of the only people pointing out that this exact situation is why we need to allow coaches to challenge a refs call. For "non-reviewable" calls like this...
oh my...When I say it's both sides I mean nhlpa AND bettmans fault...I don 't like either side...I don't stand closer to either side meaning I'm not going to do like "some" on here and say it's all bettmans and the owners fault . that doesn't mean that I'm all in on saying it's the nhlpa's fault either.
OK, fair enough. Almost everything I have seen you say up to this point though has been pro-league and anti-union/Fehr, so you can't blame me for thinking that.
Everyone, please remember that this thread is for discussion of the lockout, meetings, etc. pointing out each other's posting style and viewpoints in a "gotcha" game isn't exactly staying on topic.
What I think the problem is, is certain people on BOTH sides of the arguement in this thread are completely ignoring the specifics of the actual CBA proposals and have taken either a hardline pro-league or pro-players stance based 100% on their political views regarding unions, and nothing else.
Does anyone care about hockey anymore? I've found I don't really miss it, and I didn't think I'd feel that way.
I still care, and miss it some, since I've been a fan so long, but I have to be honest, I miss is a LOT less than I thought I would a few months ago, and I seem to miss it less and less by the day. Which I didn't expect a few month ago.
Its also been a bit of a wake up, and helped me to see how unhealthy the NHL has been for me over the years, the last several especially. Instead of sitting around with the crew drinking beer and eating junk food, now I go out, take more walks, read more books, drink a lot less, since most of my drinking occured while watching hockey. Its really made me think about how much of my time has been spend in front of the idiot box, sitting on the couch, watching hockey games, while I could have been doing something a lot more productive. That kind of little "realization" alone will pretty much assure I don't watch anywhere near as much hockey when eventually it does come back.
Hell, if I had the opportunity he had, I would be working out and pushing myself to be the best damn hockey player I could. Drinking? Maybe after I turn 21. What a dumbass.
I can say that too as an adult and with the "wisdom" that comes with age, but if I am being honest with myself, I would almost assuredly still do stupid s*** occasionally, like all kids do. Additionally, that last part is just silly, like drinking at 20 or whatever is horrible and will destroy your career and/or body, but at 21 it magically won't.
Not to downplay the incident, as drunk driving is stupid as f***, but to all the people talking about alcohism and diseases and whatnot, come on... He got a DUI. I am sure almost all of here that drink have, at some point in our life, driven home from a bar/party/friends house/wedding/whatever after a couple too many. That doesn't automatically make one an alcoholic. It just makes one someone who made a stupid decision while drunk.
As clearly predicted by their calendar, in Dec 2012 the Mayan warlords will team up with the reptilian aliens and come back to Earth to initiate their death laser apocalypse upon the planet Earth, vaporizing the planet in its entirety.
Knowing the NHL, I am sure they are not really free. The NHL is probably going to add up the cost of all the coffee, donuts and bottled water from all the meetings and add it on to the amount that the players "owe" them.
Thanks for not answering the question and pointing the finger at everyone else "doing it"
Thankyou for a proper answer.
Ok, I'll give you an answer, but you probably won't like it. You asked:
How do parents reconcile the message of "don't use violence to solve your problems" with "except when you're playing hockey"?
Maybe things are different over there, but on this side of the pond, a lot of parents choose to be honest with their children and let them know that while violence should be an absolute last resort, and you shouldn't use violence to solve your problems, sometimes in hockey, (as in life) violence is inevitable. If someone attacks you, you defend yourself.