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#2333106 Where would you go?

Posted by rrasco on 31 October 2012 - 09:30 AM

So Z kind of went to Sweden?
Like a US citizen moving to Mexico is kind of staying at home?

Yep. Heck, using that analogy, I bet I'm close to Mexico than I am to you.

In all honesty, I wasn't sure how close Switzerland was to Sweden. Now I see they are not neighboring in much regard at all. It's been years since Geography.

#2332390 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 22 October 2012 - 11:12 AM

I believe the problem that you and others have with my posts are that I am listing reasons why the PA is to blame. Every point I have made that has upset me with the NHL is summarily ignored by people who are on the side of the NHLPA. After all, they are the ones that are 100% at fault right? I have countless posts here where I go after Bettman and his negotiating, crappy proposals, and combative style where he belittles Fehr in front of the press. Yet, you and others here who are on the side of the NHLPA ignore those.

The league was on the record saying that they were ready to negotiate in January. Many links were posted with this information. Of course Bettman thought that there was plenty of time to negotiate a deal at the time. I didn't expect Bettman to come out and say the season was screwed because Fehr and the players weren't willing to negotiate early. I don't believe for a second that Bettman or Fehr were planning a lockout. Some people who are backing the NHLPA believe that Bettman planned to lockout the players the whole time. Some people who are backing the NHL believe that Fehr wasn't planning on negotiating because he wanted the league to lock them out so he could negotiate a new deal with a luxury tax in place. If the season is lost, then that was ok with Fehr.

So, do you believe that either side was planning to scrap the season?

I certainly don't.

The problem is greed and the unwillingness to compromise on both sides.

I don't have a side. I'm on my own selfish side in wanting hockey to start so I have something to entertain me.

Having said that, I do believe the owners are at fault here. Reason being is that while they are on a cash grab they are doing little to address the real issues of a "cash-strapped-league" and the bigger picture. If the players agree to salary rollbacks now, so we can have a season, is that going to suddenly fix the problems in Phoenix? Absolutely not. The players are willing to take a pay cut of some sort, but what justification do they have in doing so if it doesn't fix anything but make the owners wallet a little fatter and not to address the problem at hand? They're willing to give for the game, but only if it benefits the game.

The only reason you listed the PA is to blame is the "the league was willing to negotiate in January" and "Fehr sure does drag his feet doesn't he?". Even IF Bettman really was willing to negotiate in January, how long would it have taken him to shoot down the PA's offers? 15 minutes? It's hard to negotiate when you have one side saying it's my way or the highway. You claim that's the PA's stance as well, unwilling to budge, but damn them for wanting to not take a pay cut. They're so greedy. Would you take a pay cut today if your company was failing, but your owner just intended to pocket the money instead of actually help save the business?

You're right, Fehr wasn't planning a lockout. If anything, the players would have gone on strike, but now we're just getting into semantics. While this is our first go with Fehr and the NHL, his history shows he has used a strike as leverage before, right before the playoffs. However, if history is going to be used as any indicator, Bettman's negotiating tactic of choice appears to be locking the players out.

So now I'll go back to an old point I brought up a few pages ago: why exactly should the players be willing to take ANY kind of pay cut to contracts that were signed by the very same owners crying poor?

I really don't have any clue how you can realistically place blame of the financial state of the NHL on the players and state that they are equally to blame for the lockout as the owners are because they are not willing to have their salaries rolled back at the demand of the owners who are doing little to address the reasoning behind why the league 'is failing'.

#2331620 Quincey to play for Denver Cutthroats CHL Hockey Team

Posted by rrasco on 15 October 2012 - 11:36 AM

Cheap seats are $15 so I might take the boys to some games.

Ha, we have tickets cheaper than that to AHL games. Good seats are $26 and glass runs $40. Haha, hockey in Texas.

#2331618 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 15 October 2012 - 11:01 AM

My stance is what it has always has been. Both sides have not been willing or able to move from what they have wanted. The owners want too much, the players won't give up very much.

I'm curious.

Without taking sides: why do you believe the players should give up anything at all? Why are the owners entitled to anymore than they already get? This was their dream CBA 7 years ago after all. From the beginning of this CBA negotiation, the owners never risked losing anything, only something to gain. There was never the risk of the owners percentage being lowered.

#2331411 Jordin Tootoo & Polar Bears

Posted by rrasco on 12 October 2012 - 12:22 PM

So...you're offended by someone else's heritage, which was publicly displayed on a feed you chose to follow, so in turn you throw every insult you can his way and then go and post the same exact picture which you were offended by on another public forum?

#2331336 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 11 October 2012 - 04:10 PM

I don't know if you skipped over it or what, but I did directly quote the article in my post;

Read the fourth paragragh, and you will see where daly says that quote exactly. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=407119

You're right. I missed that part. I guess my eyes wander when I read the same quotes in every article about the lockout.

#2331198 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 10 October 2012 - 01:09 PM

Another thing to consider is the last lockout. Take a guess on how many things that the owners asked for in their initial proposal actually showed up in the final copy that both sides drafted after a season was lost.

Answer: 0

Salary cap?

#2331005 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 08 October 2012 - 10:50 PM

I have a request: can we keep news quotes from being highlighted in grey? It's killing my eyes.

#2330699 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 04 October 2012 - 04:40 PM

A relationship expert would tell you that if she cheats on you and you stay with her, you lose all her respect. And this Bettman/NHL ***** has already cheated on you 3 times now. It's time to end the relationship.

BUT she's the hottest chic in school!

#2330694 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 04 October 2012 - 03:09 PM

MOTHERf****** f***Sf****** f***ED HOCKEY. f***!

That was absolutely necessary for those around me. They are now safe. For one more day.

#2329856 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 24 September 2012 - 09:28 AM

You know what was weird. I turned on the TV yesterday and there was this game on where a bunch of guys ran around in the grass playing catch and hugging up on each other. I thought they called it foosball? I don't know, it was rather weird, but without a hockey game to turn to, I just kept watching.


#2329752 Paper Wings

Posted by rrasco on 22 September 2012 - 06:54 PM

We are so bored.

I agree. I've resorted to making paper Yzermans...somebody shoot me now.

#2329324 Wings to Europe: Tracking which DRW players are playing where

Posted by rrasco on 18 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

He was assigned to GR. Pretty sure that means he is playing there.

#2329305 Captaincy

Posted by rrasco on 18 September 2012 - 01:49 PM

You've got it wrong. Zetterberg's locker was placed next to Yzerman's in 2005. As such, no indication of the type you're suggesting exists.

You quoted me before I could change that up...but I know it was some kind of locker stall thing they do to put these future leaders next to current leaders. Fil was mentioned in that regard. Not only that, but his name came out of Lidstrom's mouth when asked about a replacement captain. I think that is enough to give merit to.

#2328555 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by rrasco on 13 September 2012 - 11:38 AM

The Suter and Parise UFA signing is a perfect example of why there is a threat of a lockout this season. The owners had a bidding war for them, they offered them the contracts they got. Of course they will take the most money offered, most people would. The owners give out these offers and then punish the players and fans by reneging on their offers by demanding they take a pay cut or lock them (and us) out for their stupidity.

How many times are you going to copy and paste this into a post? I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just tired of reading the same paragraph.