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#2475069 Leaders need to be leaders

Posted by kipwinger on 21 January 2014 - 08:28 AM

It's not really surprising that Z had a bad game last night.  He's one of only two offensive threats on our team right now, and we were playing one of the three best defensive teams in hockey.  I imagine it's REALLY hard to play well with David Backes draped all over you for 60 minutes.

#2471879 Franzen having trouble processing information

Posted by LAWings on 10 January 2014 - 12:47 PM

A lot of folks have been giving Franzen a hard time over his concussion and I would like to provide my own experience in the hope people can understand that a seemingly innocent 'love tap' can cause a TBI (traumatic brain injury). 


With all the strides being made on TV about concussions, with so many men who have now committed suicide because they could no longer live in such pain, it hurts me that the Wings community is so callous and shallow in their responses to such a very serious injury. 


A brain injury is THE MOST SERIOUS injury a player can sustain, and we as the Wings community should be pulling together to give our fallen warriors their support when this happens.  And not belittle them and accuse them of malingering or lying.


I sustained my first concussion 2 years ago and I've never had any head, neck, back or head injuries in my life (I'm 37, fit, former Marine).  I didn't get hit in the head, I fell down, hard.  So hard in fact that it caused my head to snap back and I got a concussion.  A bad one, it took 6 months before the headaches stopped.  18 months before I didn't have symptoms, but 2 years on I still have some problems.  After 6 months I went to see the specialist Crosby saw in Los Angeles when he wasn't getting better because I wasn't getting better, I had all the classic symptoms and they would just not go away.  The truth is, doctors can't do anything for a concussion, there is no test, there is no drug, there is really no treatment.  When you injure your brain it's a traumatic brain injury and everyone heals different and the only medication is time.


When Franzen says he has a problem processing information I feel for the guy.  I know what that's like, to barely be able to drive yourself to the doctor, to not be able to watch TV, or even wash dishes because there is too much going on and after a few minutes you have to sit down and collect yourself because you're so exhausted.  Or having to take two breaks while walking to get the mail.  Or it takes 5 minutes to type a sentance while writing an email.  This is so frustrating, there is NOTHING you can do but let it run its course.  On the outside one can look strong, fit, and healthy like a mule, but on the inside, the brain is going completely haywire beyond your control.  The way Franzen got popped is how many concussions occur, and since this is not his first concussion he is risking serious injury to his long term brain health.  (Think Junior Seau)


I hope more people will have an open mind when we're talking about a TBI, and do more to help those in need, with understanding and giving people space and time to recover.  But to mock the injury in any way, is cruel and you would not want to go through the same pain of any player having to live with the recovery of this injury.  I am embarrassed by some of these responses I'm reading here, on line and in the news sections, as a Wings fan, as a man, and as a human being.


Thanks for reading.

#2456044 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 November 2013 - 03:17 PM

It's seriously just really starting to piss me off seeing anything the management of this team says to the press...

"(Nyquist's) job, and no different tonight if I were him, he's still allowed to go back to the minors, is be so good tonight that you put so much pressure on the coach and the manger that they have to do something about it." - Mike Babcock


Are you f****** kidding me!? So what about all the dead weight on this team that's allowed to roam free because they're "warriors" and provide a "veteran presence". These "kids" have put pressure on management, but you've turned a blind eye. Dan Cleary is on the top line!? Are you slow, Mike? Tatar has proven he's got better hands than 70% of the team, and Dan f****** Cleary is on the top line!?

Great way to handle the future of your team. "You better score a hat trick tonight, otherwise you get to go rot in the AHL." Meanwhile, the dynamic veteran duo of Dan Cleary and Mikael Samuelsson have a whopping 2 goals over 31 games played. If players in the draft aren't already weary about being taken by Detroit, they should be after this year. They're not just letting these kids get overripe anymore, they're flat out misusing them.

I'm seriously beginning to think that management is so arrogant that they won't fix something until it's too late.


EDIT: Put Babcock's quote in Comic Sans font because it seemed appropriate.


As I said in the Nyquist thread, I understand why people are pissed about the Nyquist situation, but are letting their rage taint what Babcock is saying here.


It's the reality of the situation.  And if you read between the lines, if anything he's probably implying that he plays so good that Holland can't possibly justify sending him back down. 


Nyquist is screwed because of the roster situation Holland put together.  He's the victim of his contract status.


Babcock isn't threatening Nyquist that if he doesn't play well he gets buried in the minors.  He's just stating the obvious. 


That the dream is that Nyquist plays so unbelievably great that even Holland can't justify burying the kid in the minors anymore, no matter what it does to the roster.  That the waste of talent and loss to the Red Wings would become so glaringly obvious, the outcry from the coaches, players, and fans so great, that Holland would have to make a drastic roster move to remedy his mistakes and get the kid up with the team.

#2454505 11/16 GDT: Red Wings 4 at Islanders 5 (SO)

Posted by derblaueClaus on 16 November 2013 - 06:34 PM

I don't care how, but Let's Go Wings ! Follow the example of Mule from last night.

#2451489 Tootoo Waived

Posted by joshy207 on 06 November 2013 - 10:02 PM

Yes re-entry waivers should be gone. I was referring to if we sent him back down to grr once he came back up to the NHL. If we wanted to send him down once more, that's where I was confused if he would be exempt from passing waivers again and technically on a two way contract from that point on.

 This would have nothing to do with a one-way or two-way contract.  A two-way (NHL/AHL) contract means a player gets paid one salary in the NHL and another (smaller) in the AHL.  Players in the AHL on a one-way NHL contract get paid the same salary they would make in the NHL.

#2445006 Any new Helm Updates?

Posted by 55fan on 16 October 2013 - 02:21 PM


Ah but if it was that easy ;) I had told her I would volunteer at the ticket stand that night. Yeah... my foot has a bullet hole in it right about now.

If the Wings win the Cup, they'd better add your name to it.  You just stacked up enough positive kharma by being good to your woman that not only will Helm be back, but he'll stay back.

#2443877 10/12 GDT: Flyers 2 at Red Wings 5

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 12 October 2013 - 08:49 PM


#2442618 Devils sign Brunner 2 yrs. $2.5 million AAV

Posted by Opie on 08 October 2013 - 07:30 AM

Brunner just scored a nice goal. EPIC FAIL signing Alfy and letting Brunner go.

Yeah I know if only Kenny had offered him a deal before the trade deadline, maybe even two offers and one of them being the exact offer he ended signing with NJ.

Then it would be EPIC WIN!


In "Reality Land" the nose turned down the offers he got from the Wings to test free agency, oh but don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant!

#2438019 Lidstrom will play in Winter Classic Alumni Game

Posted by evilmrt on 20 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

I don't know, I don't get the hoopla over the Alumni games.  I don't really care if any of these guys participate or not.  Last I heard, Yzerman had said he hadn't even had a pair of sakes on in like 3 years and this was a few years ago.  He's the GM of the Tampa Bay Lightning, a division rival of the Wings. Stevie, Sergei and Shanny have all moved on to other things.  Maybe the fans should too?

Nomination for worst post of the offseason.

#2437185 24CH

Posted by rrasco on 17 September 2013 - 02:31 PM


24CH is a groundbreaking new documentary series chronicling the on- and off-ice evolution of the 2012-13 Montreal Canadiens.



Sounds like a new version of Oil Change.

#2437070 Preseason Game #1: First Impressions

Posted by Guest on 16 September 2013 - 09:03 PM

I figured I'd create this thread for the benefit of those of who could not see the game. Apologies to the mods if this belongs in the GDT.



First off: the Pens’ broadcast team was atrocious. Paul Steigerwald couldn’t even remember the names of some of his own team’s players---Olli Jokinen plays for the Penguins in his world---and botched the pronunciation of others; apparently the Wings have a player named Agleketer. Meanwhile, Bob Errey couldn’t even properly recall his own time with the Red Wings; he reminisced about how the Wings racked up 62 wins only to suffer a heartbreaking loss to the Devils. Needless to say, the two of them were also biased in typically inveterate fashion; they are collectively known rightly as one of the most homerish duos in the league. To their minor credit, they did lavish some praise on certain Red Wings.


General impressions: the PK was very good; the PP was not so great, but then there were a lot of rookies playing on it; after the Wings scored their fourth goal, the top line didn’t see much playtime even when Crosby was on the ice, Babcock instead opting to give the youngsters more time on the ice. Generally a good effort; the first period went the way of the Penguins, but the Wings dominated the 2nd and 3rd frames.



Now to the players:


Abdelkader: Meh. He battled in the corners and did some dirty work in the crease, but his biggest contribution was making little Sid unhappy. The two were jawing at each other all game. Aside from this, Abdelkader was not particularly noticeable; then again, the top line got less and less time as the time went on---particularly after the Wings went up 4-1---and so he really didn’t get much time to show anything.


Almquist: Wow. Though small and not particularly good on defense, this guy’s offensive instincts and hockey IQ are as high as advertised. On both of his goals, he picked the correct time to shoot the puck and picked the correct place to shoot it. If he does as well in the AHL, it’ll be silly to let him go (he’ll be out of minor league options); if so, he might get Quincey’s spot after this season.


Andersson: Good enough. His skating has improved, and he plays as hard as we’ve become accustomed to. Unfortunately, at even strength he was handcuffed by his association with Cleary and Samuelsson. He did well enough on the PK.


Cleary: Sad. He was totally unremarkable. I can only hope that he was simply not trying, because his play on the PK appeared totally lackadaisical. If that's the case, then this was an extremely poor showing after what the management went through for him to maintain his spot on the team. I don’t recall him being used on the power play. He might have been there. I don't remember.


Datsyuk: Typically brilliant, though he was not trying very hard; this was, needless to say, not really a big deal given that this is the preseason and he is an established superstar. That said, he stickhandled wonderfully, defended ably, and scored a beautiful goal. Some of the Pens’ prospects seemed spellbound by his play.


DeKeyser: Excellent. He was functionally the Wings’ #1 defenseman, playing excellently on defense and ably on offense; indeed, he ended up on a breakway at one point and the Pens had to haul him down to stop him (sadly, there was no penalty shot). He did well with Kindl, and was substantially better than either Smith or Quincey.


Evans: Steady but unspectacular. He’s an AHL-caliber defenseman.


Ferraro: Impressive, if not flashy. While small, he’s feisty, hard on the puck, and full of effort. He’s got a right-handed shot---rare for the Red Wings---and has decent offensive instincts. He certainly seems to be better than Emmerton. Look for him to replace the latter next season.


Glendening: A basic grinder. Good on the PK, good speed, good effort, but ultimately unremarkable. While he performed decently in his first NHL game, he doesn’t appear to be anything special. He’ll be a decent call-up option in a pinch, but he’s got to improve if he’s going to have any sort of career in the big league.


Howard: Very good. He made some good saves while being bombarded by the Penguins early on, and let in only one goal on 16 or so shots in the first two periods.


Jarnkrok: Clearly unready for NHL action. This was his first NHL action, but he’s currently too small and too inexperienced to really make an impact of any kind. This was his first NHL action. That’s natural, as he doesn’t even have any AHL experience yet.


Kind: Very nice. He seems to have made significant progress in his two notable problem areas: defense and confidence. He laid down a nice hit, too. As with DeKeyser, he played substantially better than Quincey or Smith. Look for he and DeKeyser to make up the 2nd pairing this season.


Mantha: Like Jarnkrok, he’s simply not ready. He looked alright in his first few shifts, and then disappeared. It was obvious that he was dying to take some shots, but right now he just doesn’t have the experience to find the sweet spots in the offensive zone yet, and he was easily shut down by the Penguins.


Mrazek: Steady. Barring a catastrophe, he’ll be with the Wings in 2014-2015 (obviously).


Quincey: Not very good. He did a passable---but only passable---job on defense and took a few shots, all of which missed the net.


Samuelsson: Gah. He was terrible on the power play and invisible at even strength. Babcock seems to have agreed with this assessment, as Samuelsson’s playtime in the 2nd and 3rd periods decreased while that of the other bottom-sixers increased.


Smith: Worrisome. He showed no improvement over last season. Unfortunately, he was also paired with Quincey yet again. Not good.


Tatar: Quite good. He drove to the net to score the first goal of the game, and throughout the game exhibited his excellent stickhandling skills and willingness to go to the tough areas. Steigerwald and Errey seemed certain that he’ll be on the roster this season.


Tootoo: Invisible. He was simply an unnecessary piece of the roster, though admittedly he did not receive much playtime and is probably aware that barring a miracle, he won’t be on the roster in three weeks regardless of what he does.


 Zetterberg: Good enough, though, like Datsyuk, he was obviously not putting forth maximum effort. As with Datsyuk, this was not a big deal.

#2436713 So....did Cleary just take Tatar's spot?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 September 2013 - 01:22 PM

What?  Ken Holland said Tatar will be on the team in spite of what all the doomsday prophets around here said was going to happen?  Anybody willing to eat a little crow publicly or no?

#2433576 Training camp alumni game roster announced

Posted by ogreslayer on 19 August 2013 - 02:10 PM



Sergei, Igor, etc. probably were pipe dreams all along, but I held out hope.


Source:  http://www.theleftwi...ster-announced/


Also to avoid confusion, this is not the roster for the Winter Classic Alumni games, it's a charity alumni event held during training camp.

#2433149 Red Wings 2013 Season Preview at 4pm today on SiriusXM NHL Network Rad

Posted by Nightfall on 13 August 2013 - 07:12 AM

They had Ken Kal on for the first part.  He talked about the signings of Weiss and Alfredsson.  Then they talked about the rest of the team.

They pulled out some good stats out, such as Dats scoring over 40% of the Red Wings goals through the shortened seasons.  Thats just unbelievable.


Finally, they predicted the Wings would finish 3rd in the conference.  It could go as high as 2nd if the Wings secondary scoring picked up.  It could go as low as 6th or 7th if they have similar struggles to last season.  Either way, they predict the Wings are playoff bound next season.

#2432129 Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

Posted by Jedi on 01 August 2013 - 07:58 AM

What's crazy to me is that the Captain of a team won't even have an A on our team now lol


I would think that's about the most perfect situation for him, then.  After 14 years of captaincy, now he gets to come to a team that already has a well established leadership system, so he doesn't have to try and fulfill that role.  Much less pressure on him, so he can just go out and play, and focus on performing in Babcock's system.