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#2279865 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by Donaldjr2448 on 07 April 2012 - 03:38 PM

Nashville in 4. Our Defense is weak, we have forwards that turn the damn puck over all the time, along with defensive errors over and over. Oh yeah, our Powerplay is nonexistant and they happen to have the best power play at home. Did I mention the fact this team is 17-21-3 on the damn road................... Game, Set, Match. Sorry Folks.

#2279813 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by RedWingsRox on 07 April 2012 - 02:54 PM

Preds in 5 or 6. Sorry, love the Wings but I've got to be realistic. Preds have reloaded whereas we got Quincey.

#2279704 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by LeonardSankar on 07 April 2012 - 02:30 PM

Preds in 6!

#2278725 Welcome Back Mule!

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 06 April 2012 - 07:15 AM

He was on the 3rd line, for like 4-5 games, and was equally as terrible there as he had been.

On top of that, the 3rd line at the time with Abdelkader, Miller, and Helm was one of, if not our best line. They were really grinding the opposition defense, providing a lot of garbage and chaos in front of the crease, and even putting the puck in the net at a decent clip (considering its essentially a Grind Line). Ironically, we demoted Franzen to the 3rd line and instead of lighting a fire under him and while providing the checking line with a useful big body, he continued to suck tremendous ass and effectively cooled down that line until Helm's injury.

Pretty sad when the most accountability he's seen is being demoted 4 games or so, and still playing so badly that Babcock just gave up on the experiment and put him back on the first line. Its been two seasons straight now in which Babcock disrupts the chemistry throughout his lineup just trying to get Johan Franzen to play like he's capable of. Line 2 has chemistry? Put him there! Line 3 has chemistry? Put him there! Line 1 is starting to come around and score consistently? Great, its fixed; put him there! *sigh*

#2269521 Please, for the love of God

Posted by Cajanek_Spielmacher on 13 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

http://obnoxiousfan....ouis-is-better/ I do not want the Blues to be the cause of such suffering. This person is frightening me, help him now! :o

#2266799 Cleary, Bertuzzi, Hudler and Franzen

Posted by Guest on 05 March 2012 - 09:27 AM

great thread.

#2261817 2/23 GDT : Canucks 4 at Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by Red Crazy on 23 February 2012 - 10:51 PM

Franzen being on the ice with the net empty in a big game, brings back bad memories.

But he was on the ice because that line iced (supposedly) the puck.

I am not 100 percent sure but I think Babs put his line out a few seconds before the icing.

Quincy looks like a huge upgrade, he may teach Big E some defense with any luck! Ken Holland needs to find 5 more Helms before Monday.

#2261728 2/23 GDT : Canucks 4 at Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by Guest on 23 February 2012 - 10:25 PM

did anyone really think the wings were going to win a shootout without pavel?

come on.

#2259658 Cherry rips Holland

Posted by Hank Dats 'N Homer on 21 February 2012 - 12:00 PM

I agree with the whole sentiment that Detroit doesnt need a goon and could use another guy who can play a bit and be tough but are you forgetting the team Cherry is in love with? The bruins, to say he wouldnt allow American teams isnt true at all.

I dont think the wings are softer then a few teams out there, but they are definitely soft and could use another Abdelkader in the lineup.

PS isnt it nice to see Abdelkader manning up now and actually scrapping? 5 fights now, probably end up with 6 or 7 before the year is done and hes getting a lot better at it too

I like the Abs has stepped up in the role he's apparently been assigned, but i also think that he has disappeared in every other aspect of the game. In years prior, he always played physical but didn't fight a whole lot. He had on offensive side and played well with the puck, but i feel that he's gone backwards in most categories and seems to try and be making up for it by filling the gritty role that we have such a huge void for. Does anyone else see that? Or am i just blinded by how well everyone else is playing that I'm just complaining to complain here?

#2259126 2/19 GDT : Sharks 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by Z and D for the C on 19 February 2012 - 07:41 PM

Cleary needs to stay off that third line. Sorry, but I wish we could trade him. He isn't horrible, but at this point we have better top 6 players than him and better bottom six players than him. Using him to get Selanne or a Moen type player would be perfect.

#2254256 Miller Time Appreciated Thread

Posted by F.Michael on 09 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

I for one have been critical on the guy...So far this season he's got me eating crow; his solid 2-way play will ensure him a spot when Eaves returns.

#2255252 The Abdelkader hate

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 11 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

As I've said before, I liked him better when he was first called up and tried to hit everything that moved. He's not a bad player for us, but we can get a better version of Abdelkader easily.

And I'm still upset about his 0 points in 11 playoff games last season and all the dumb penalties he took.

Bottom line for me, is that other than Helm, none of our 4th liners are guys I "absolutely" think we need to keep long term. If we keep Abby, so be it, and if not, we can replace him just fine.

#2255244 The Abdelkader hate

Posted by WorkingOvertime on 11 February 2012 - 01:31 PM

helm is a far better hitter and all around player and miller has been clutch all year, abdelkader really is like a poor mans ott or clutterbuck, if he wants people to pay attention to him he has to go all out.

How is Helm a far better hitter? I cannot recall many big hits he has thrown since becoming an NHL regular. He was a big hitter as a call-up years ago, but he is not anymore. Despite his injury, Helm has more minutes on ice than Abby and still is 30+ hits behind. Abby has had many big hits this year, Helm has not.

Further, other than speed, how exactly is Helm a better all around player? See that stats Newfy posted. Helm is very noticeable because of his speed, but how does that make him an 'all around better player' if that speed doesn't translate to the other areas of his play?

Abby has spent much of the year on the fourth line with Emmerton and Homer, while Helm has played much of the year with Cleary. Cleary has regularly produced 40 points, while Homer and Emmerton aren't nearly as relevant offensively 5v5.

IMO this post is evident of the general feeling about Abby. He has more hits/min than anyone on the team, he has as many or more points/min as Helm, he has a better FO percentage than Helm, he fights, and he has a better plus-minus than Helm. I'm not saying he's better, but how exactly is Helm at another level, outside of speed, if he isn't on another level with regards to any stat outside of minutes/game?

#2250489 The SuperSkills competition is an embarrassment

Posted by wingsdiehard13 on 28 January 2012 - 08:08 PM

I can't be alone in saying this is a complete waste of time. It's so cheesy and catered way too much to the non-regular hockey fan.

#2248826 Time for my Cleary update.

Posted by NBCnothingbutcrosby on 23 January 2012 - 11:36 PM

I know my hate for Dan Cleary seems to get under a lot of Cleary lover's skin here. To me he is worthless I've been saying it for a while. So at 49 games on the books, lets see what he has done.
10 goals
11 assists

On a world class team. He's a horrible skater, injured often, and is completely worthless especially for how much he is making this year (2.8 million) Keep in mind Zetterberg's cap hit is 6 million.

So I pose this question again, without Crimson trolling me. How many of you would like to see Cleary gone at the trade deadline this year? At this point I'd trade him for a washing machine just to get him off and Mursak on.