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#2558113 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by Dabura on Yesterday, 06:36 PM

Sending a message, lol.

 

"HEY MAN. YOU CROSS-CHECKED MY CAPTAIN AND I AM REALLY MAD ABOUT IT. THAT'S WHY I'M GETTING ALL UP IN YOUR FACE. TELL YOUR FIGHTER I WANT TO FIGHT HIM TO SHOW HOW MAD I AM."




#2558078 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by derblaueClaus on Yesterday, 12:26 PM

Singling out Franzen is as stupid as it gets right now. The whole team, with the notable exception of our goalies, sucks right now. Sure, Franzen should bring more to the table but Nyquist, Zetterberg, Tatar, Smith etc. (you name them) should do too.

And we all know Mule floats some time of the year. Every player does from time to time except the super stars. Nothing unusual here, especially if you take his caphit into account.




#2558073 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by kliq on Yesterday, 12:00 PM

First round for Quincey
Resign Quincey
Resign cleary
Sign tootoo for three years and not play put him on roster
Sign colo for 2 years
Bringing back Sammy again
Trading top 2 or 3 prospect for rental center
Franzen deal...

Clearly no bad contracts at all.

 

e_prime said it best "Most of these issues are slight hiccups.  Not crippling long term or short term."

 

NO GM is perfect, not every contract on your team is going to work out exactly as you hoped. These are such small moves you are complaining about, which is exactly my point. When it comes to important stuff (keeping your best players, developing young talent, keeping a happy locker room, not making bad trades, not making crippling UFA signings, he does a great job)

 

You act like keeping Nyquist in the minors a bit longer then "he should have" hurt this team. Look at him now....does his development look hurt? Does Tatar's?

I think we should all look at the Oilers as an example of how just throwing kids out there can hurt them, and stunt their development. I'm perfectly happy with the prospects we have drafted and developed, and now I feel we are in the position we are in because of it.

 

 




#2558074 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by rick zombo on Yesterday, 12:00 PM

Hopefully you'll get one of ur pleasant surprises


Uh. Hello? It's "positive surprises"

Get it right :)


#2558072 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 11:54 AM

Yes. We lose a lot of games because he is useless without the puck and pretty useless even with it this year. I know you love him and his cap hit to death and everything but at some point you have to admit he stinks right now and as nice as 08 and 09 were he shouldn't be here throwing an anchor down on every line he is on especially with the energy we have from the young guys. 

So we should have scratched Franzen in favor of everybody's other favorite... Danny Cleary.

 

Totally would have won the game with Clears in.  He's got no knees... BUT HE'S GOT HEART!! SOMETHING FRANZEN NEVER HAD!!

 

:bye:




#2558067 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 11:02 AM

First round for Quincey
Resign Quincey
Resign cleary
Sign tootoo for three years and not play put him on roster
Sign colo for 2 years
Bringing back Sammy again
Trading top 2 or 3 prospect for rental center
Franzen deal...

Clearly no bad contracts at all.

Give me a break.

 

All of this seems like extreme belly-aching.

 

Most of these issues are slight hiccups.  Not crippling long term or short term.

 

Is Quincey worth a first... probably not. ...but would Holland have drafted a first round pick anyway... probably not.

He would have traded it for two 2nd rounders and then traded one of those second round picks for two more third rounders.

 

Get over Cleary. He's on the roster until he's ready to be done. Just like Maltby. Just like Draper. Suck it up. He's not even playing.

 

Tootoo wasn't played by Babcock... not Holland. Point the blame in the right direction, sir.

Then he, along with Colo were bought out.  Would have been Sammy if he wasn't injured...

...and please, let's not pretend like other GMs don't resign guys that they're familiar with.

 

And I'm sorry, but Franzen is worth his cap hit. Am I enamored with his play all of the time?  No. I'm sure Holland isn't either but

Holland certainly didn't know that the latest CBA would include a cap recapture clause that would make that Franzen deal a little less digestable.

 

 

Exactly. I mean ya those 2 or 3 year deals for broken over the hill useless players was def not crippling it int forced nyquist and Tatar to remain in the minors for a year or two longer than they should've.

or how about the fact he offered those long term crap contracts to suter and parise. Suter would've made them better but those are the contracts that hurt you down the road.


How about kindl? He could easily be waved or dumped for nothing to allow ouellette to be on this team but holland refuses to...why?

 

So. Now he's in the wrong for trying to get Suter and Parise?  He just can't win. Worst GM ever.

 

Kindl isn't waived because Ken Holland understands the need for depth... and he's not just going to give away a guy that's signed for a few years at a reasonable price.

 

So you would say he made short term crippling decisions but not long term? That sounds about right to me...except for potentially franzens, z or kronwalls if they decide to retire early.

:g:

 

Except... except... except... Yes. All those "what if's" we should be considering.

 

Regarding last night's game:  What is up with Mrazek getting so far out of net on multiple plays? Does he always do that? Does anyone else have a heart-attack whenever he does? Should I not worry so much?




#2558036 Prospect Joe Hicketts invited to Canada WJC camp.

Posted by rick zombo on Yesterday, 01:26 AM

Made the team. :clap:

 

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#2558057 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Euro_Twins on Yesterday, 08:40 AM

First round for Quincey
Resign Quincey
Resign cleary
Sign tootoo for three years and not play put him on roster
Sign colo for 2 years
Bringing back Sammy again
Trading top 2 or 3 prospect for rental center
Franzen deal...

Clearly no bad contracts at all.


Actually he said not crippling. Technically he was right. None of those moves crippled the team. We all hated the Sammy signing, but he did play good in Detroit the first time around. Cleary sucksbut but he doesn't even play unless he is covering for an injury. Colo Was good but injury prone. Still not a crippling contract. I believe he was referring more to those 7 year $40 million dollars contracts thrown around. And for the love of God franzen was not a bad contract and probably won't ever cripple the team cap wise at under $4million


#2558038 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by rick zombo on Yesterday, 01:52 AM

Yay this means kindl or lashoff back in the line up!!!


Thanks holland.

 

for drafting Ouellet in the first place and, generally, managing our prospects pretty well over the last 16 years.

 

That’s what you were thanking him for, right?




#2558021 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 19 December 2014 - 10:50 PM

Rationality will never win. Franzen blowwwwwssss

Oh yeah.
TANK IT!


#2558002 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 December 2014 - 10:22 PM

Goodnight guys. The Red Wings are the greatest team to have ever existed. LoL.

 

It's funny how people can't seem to see any position between the extremes. 

 

Saying the Wings suck and will lose is somehow being real.  But apparently the only other alternative is to say that they're awesome and will win every game?  

 

God forbid someone actually discuss the hockey game.  What the Wing's problems are, how they can correct them.  Positives they can build on, etc.




#2557994 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by barabbas16 on 19 December 2014 - 10:15 PM

Pretty sad you can't even tell the truth around here. I predicted a loss earlier and I was made fun now people are bitter about it. People are hilarious.

 

Everyone hates the guy that says 'I told you so.'  No one says 'it takes a big man to admit when he's right.'

 

If you predicted a loss, I am sure your post is still there for anyone to look at and see that you were right.  You are just purposefully being obnoxious.

 

There's a whole bunch of truth for you.  See?... you can even tell it around here.




#2557993 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 December 2014 - 10:14 PM

I never said I got joy from it. I come here to talk hockey and I made a prediction about the game. What makes you think I got joy from it? I just find it funny that if you're not some kind of Wings slappy and just gloat about how great the team is you get criticized for it.

 

Because you quoted your own post from earlier to gloat about being right about the loss.

 

There's plenty of people who criticize the Wings here. Criticism is welcome.  It's a hockey fan forum.  We complain about everything.  But  showing up to rub people's face in a loss has nothing to do with talking hockey and criticizing the Wings. 




#2557979 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by derblaueClaus on 19 December 2014 - 10:08 PM

Well I told you guys the Wings would lose. Don't expect much from this team. This team is sorry, it's not just a losing streak. Well anyway, you guys all have a great night.

 

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#2557970 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 December 2014 - 10:04 PM

 

You're right.  

 

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dude. 

 

I'm waiting for the day when Burke shows up for a press conference wearing a bathrobe smoking a cigar.  It can't be that far away...


Told my wife Goose should have 2 handed the guy hard on the leg if there was no call.

 

That would've worked. Honestly he's probably too short to crosscheck him in the teeth, but I would've settled for a BC two-hander.