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#2535237 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by DickieDunn on Yesterday, 02:49 PM

Tuskan Raiders!  Yes!!!!!


The only problem is that they'd skate single file to hide their numbers, so they'd have horrible spacing.


#2535236 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by shoe on Yesterday, 02:46 PM

The Vegas Papageorgios

 

 

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#2535215 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by wings87 on Yesterday, 02:00 AM

The Designated Drivers.

The High Rollers.

The Goodfellas.

The Stool Pigeons.

Or after a couple years they'll be simply know as a Bust.


#2535243 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Wheelchairsuperhero on Yesterday, 04:31 PM

I thought this thread was about Alfie?

Don't be ridiculous, all threads are about Cleary.


#2535177 potential team names for las vegas!

Posted by Euro_Twins on 29 August 2014 - 02:01 PM

We would need to change our name to the Detroit tire kickers


We wouldn't have to change the logo, just put a foot next to it in a kicking motion.


#2535172 Lines Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on 29 August 2014 - 01:05 PM

71 is a Russian number. 17 is better.


17 is a true hard working Canadian number - Don cherry


#2535101 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 28 August 2014 - 03:25 PM

I'm not okay with Abby there either. He's a 4th liner, 3rd at best. But no, Jurco isn't ready. And yes, Jurco put up a 34 point pace against much lesser competition vs abbys 33 point pace against top line competition. CLEARLY this means Jurco should be there. What was I thinking? Excuse my ignorance.

And Kip, did you watch the last few games before the olympic break when Gus and Z played together? The chemistry and puck movement was insane. Z and pav like. So why not have two extremely dunamic duos on the ice at the same time? We wouldn't need to grind it out much because we'd always have the puck.

If you want to change the dynamic of the attack, you don't do that by putting one guy thats going to go to the net on each line. You put two on one line. Franzen and Jurco can both play down low. Put them together. Putting Jurco on the top line now could actually kill that line (not to mention the kids confidence) just as much as abby has.


#2535034 Las Vegas rumored to get an expansion team

Posted by wings87 on 27 August 2014 - 02:11 PM

The logo will be a man at a pay phone calling his wife to wire him more money.
"I have a system!"

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#2535025 Las Vegas rumored to get an expansion team

Posted by dirtydangles on 27 August 2014 - 12:46 PM

Kaner is just shaking with anticipation




#2534962 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by kliq on 26 August 2014 - 06:21 PM

  Do you really believe that re-signing Quincey makes the defense better?

 

I never once said anything about Kyle Quincey

 

Three years ago, it was easy to sit back and say 'I'm glad we didn't trade the future just to get into the playoffs' and now that's all we're doing...

 

I think Chicago and LA are the perfect examples. They addressed their needs and corrected them. Both started with a culture shift to look at the future and build towards a goal of winning the Cup (assume this is Detroit's goal). Both began by building solid systems with deep prospect pools (which Detroit already has). Both enhanced their drafts by bringing in guys through trades and free agency which filled holes (the part missing recently in Detroit). They also both addressed their teams by balancing their rosters with a coaching staff to maximize their chemistry (could that be part of Detroit's 'problem'). I don't think Detroit is in a rebuild, I think they lack direction. It's largely part of the issue San Jose has. Management sees the identity of the team from several years ago while the on-ice product is ready to move on...

 

You are contradicting yourself. You are upset that the Wings are sitting back, yet calling out Chicago and LA as perfect examples of the way it should be done. Like I said above, it took Chicago 11 years to complete their rebuild In that time I don't recall any major UFA signings until the end.

 

Based on this logic, if you consider this year 5 of the re-build (which is a HUGE stretch), then are you saying you would be okay with it taking the Wings until 2020 to become contenders because that is what the Blackhawks did? But that goes against your point of sitting back and waiting just waiting for talent to develop.




#2534956 Fedorov and Yzerman vs. Datsyuk and Zetterberg

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 August 2014 - 05:46 PM

Boyd Devereaux and Jason Williams




#2534939 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by Son of a Wing on 26 August 2014 - 11:41 AM

 

I disagree that it isn't a fair comparison. Both of these guys left the organization, so they gained most of their perspective from within Detroit's group. That they've been able to apply their experience to varied situations is exactly what I want to compare. They took what they learned (from Holland) in Detroit and have applied it elsewhere, in different situations.

 

Holland has had the luxury of ownership who allows him to spend to the cap ceiling and any cap space limitations (or bad contracts) are the result of Holland's planning and management. And, I'm not sure that there is an unwillingness of teams to trade with the Wings, I think that perception is one of the issues. The Wings don't have the guys that other teams want, no matter how rosy we make our prospects sound. We have a ton of depth- and role-guys, but not the excess of blue-chip prospects teams in rebuild mode want in return and it becomes easier and easier for teams to turn down a trade with Wings that revolves around Johan Franzen and Riley Sheahan for a top-tier guy... [Guys like Tatar, Jurco, Mantha, Nyquist, etc. come off the table because they are needed in addition to whatever the Wings are trying to trade for...]

 

That's really my biggest knock against Holland, he's been there long enough. Move on. He has nothing to prove. He's won Cups, he's got the longest playoff streak, he's drafted HOFers, etc. etc. etc. Let's get some fresh eyes on the organization and get ahead of the curve again in order to stay where we're at...

 

You keep saying he has to move on but you haven't listed a single possible solution/alternative that's available that would benefit us.

 

And since neither Nill or Yzerman is available to Detroit, what's a better option than Holland at this point?




#2534937 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 26 August 2014 - 11:32 AM

 

I disagree that it isn't a fair comparison. Both of these guys left the organization, so they gained most of their perspective from within Detroit's group. That they've been able to apply their experience to varied situations is exactly what I want to compare. They took what they learned (from Holland) in Detroit and have applied it elsewhere, in different situations.

 

Holland has had the luxury of ownership who allows him to spend to the cap ceiling and any cap space limitations (or bad contracts) are the result of Holland's planning and management. And, I'm not sure that there is an unwillingness of teams to trade with the Wings, I think that perception is one of the issues. The Wings don't have the guys that other teams want, no matter how rosy we make our prospects sound. We have a ton of depth- and role-guys, but not the excess of blue-chip prospects teams in rebuild mode want in return and it becomes easier and easier for teams to turn down a trade with Wings that revolves around Johan Franzen and Riley Sheahan for a top-tier guy... [Guys like Tatar, Jurco, Mantha, Nyquist, etc. come off the table because they are needed in addition to whatever the Wings are trying to trade for...]

 

That's really my biggest knock against Holland, he's been there long enough. Move on. He has nothing to prove. He's won Cups, he's got the longest playoff streak, he's drafted HOFers, etc. etc. etc. Let's get some fresh eyes on the organization and get ahead of the curve again in order to stay where we're at...

The Wings absolutely have blue chip pieces that teams want to trade for. There were many reports over the summer of other teams calling and inquiring about Mantha, Nyquist and Tatar. We could get something very good for them. But, with the potential of those players, management has decided that it would be better in the long run to keep them. I for one support that because I really those 3 and none of the player mentioned in possible trades have seemed to be a perfect, no risk fit for us (Edler, Myers, etc...). Besides I like the look of our D prospects.




#2534934 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by vladdy16 on 26 August 2014 - 09:37 AM

It's great to make the playoffs, but let's win some Cups... Yes, 23 years in a row is AMAZING, but the Blackhawks have 2 Cups in their current run, the Kings have 2 Cups in their current run. Yes, we have 4 during ours and 6 appearances. Remember, in our first six years of the streak, we had 0 Cups and only 1 appearance... Creating an elite, winning culture is great and maintaining it will be increasingly difficult in the current NHL. I question whether of not Holland is the guy to do it. Look at how Yzerman has adapted in Tampa Bay or at how Nill has adapted in Dallas, why hasn't Detroit made any changes?

 

 

 

I don't think anyone is arguing against constructive criticism, but the absolute vitriol that spews on this board sometimes usually is frustrating most all level-headed fans and we're getting a little trigger happy.

 

Another thing I'm getting a little tired of is comparing Holland to Yzerman and/or Nill.  Apples and oranges.  The Lightening and Stars had almost nowhere to go but up to begin with.  They also aren't facing the same adversity as Holland - little cap space and an unwillingness to trade with the Wings.  These are pretty sizable barriers to contend with.  Also, neither has the pressure from the fans that the Wings organization has.  I'm not a Holland fanboy by any means, but let's be reasonable.

And since neither Nill or Yzerman is available to Detroit, what's a better option than Holland at this point?




#2533554 Candiens, P.K. Subban agree to 8 year contract

Posted by Euro_Twins on 02 August 2014 - 04:56 PM

I hope these contracts aren't slowly moving us toward another lockout.....


They are.