Well Pasha is probably one of the most gifted players server in terms of skill not even 40 can match that. Beating the Wings has become too simple and that's not a good thing regardless of the record the book is our there => play a hard nosed physical game, intimidate the team and you'll soon. Ever since Godstrom left the PP had become abysmal as evidence by the opponents taking more liberties with the Wings. I wonder if Dubinsky would have even looked at one of our players with Orr or Mclaren on the bench? Skill needs to be balanced and the Wings are lacking in that regard, so some nastiness and mean SOB isn't the worst thing. When s the last time someone challenged Hall or Hoping? Can't remember it because answering to Gazdic isn't a blessing experience. Even better how many cheap shots does Johnny hockey receive per game? None because the stare of Grats is on the bench ready to go at each time. God do I miss the bash bros and the tight bunch this team once was... Skilled, Hard nosed, hard working and entertaining as hell
Abysmal on the pp? We're 7th in the league in pp%
Yeah Orr and Mclaren are so good at protecting players that the Leafs demoted them to their farm team. In fact they only have 12 games between them in the AHL lol they can't even make that team.
Each time? Mcgrattan has only skated for the Flames 8 times this season. Even that no-depth team isn't finding him useful lol
I hope he receives a fair and just ruling under due process of the law. Contrary to some people's view on this forum, Slava Voynov is not an animal, he's a human being just like you or me. Innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.
I just had a good laugh at all of the experts on here who contributed to the "Fire Ken Holland" thread, but are now reluctant to part with any of our "overripe" prospects because all of the sudden "they like our team" too. And to everyone who understood that the current NHL landscape doesn't allow for any individual team to compete for the Stanley cup every year, please pat yourself on the back for defending him like I did.
As for a trade to "get our offense going" - We currently rank 6th in the NHL in GPG and 8th in PP% (all after scoring only 4 goals in 3 games in 4 nights). I think the question is "should we make a trade for a new goaltender who can make a save in a shootout?"... kidding.
August - THIS TEAM IS GOING NOWHERE! FIRE KEN HOLLAND! TRADE FOR *Insert name* OR TANK FOR MCDAVID!
December - No need to make any trades if we don't have to. Let's all just be patient and hold onto prospects and let them develop.
In a way I envy them. They truly live in the moment.
I know. My point is, it's hard to have a physical sport with a fighting history, and expect people not to fight when there's an elbow or a cheap hit. The Smith fight was necessary. He doesn't want a guy running him again like that. He was sticking up for himself. If you take fighting out of the game completely, I'm afraid it'll encourage more cheap hits.
I don't think any of us are arguing that. At least I'm not. I just don't understand yours and Frank Grimes man crush on Mcgrattan lol
So we're all low brow dips***s because we happen to like that part of the game and the players who have historically been linked with hockey pugilistics? I like that part of hockey history as much as I like the skilled players who made up the game's history.
You need to get off your high horse.
That's the thing. Heavyweights are history. I love and miss that part of the game too, but the reality is, it just doesn't function like that anymore. Mcgrattan can fight, sure. But he'll never be a Probert, or even a Dmac. He's just not useful in any department besides fighting. He's butterbean with skates on.
McGrattan and Engelland will make a man out of him yet.
So if there's a brawl during a Wings game this year and the fans are into it, are you going to come here and post about how boring, stupid and pointless it all was? Or are you going to chant and be entertained like everyone else?
If there's a fight at a Wings game, heck yeah I'm gonna be pumped. I love a good scrap. But I don't want a McGrattan on the team JUST because he scraps. He's got to be useful when he's not scrapin too.
Take the Smith-Panik fight we're supposed to be talking about. Things got heated and Smith stood up for himself and threw down, atta boy Smitty. I love it. But before and after that fight Smith still brings solid hockey to the team. McGrattan doesn't do that at all.
I get the feeling that you guys wanna see more of the heavy-weight bouts like in the 80s, but those bouts frankly have nothing to do with hockey, just two guys fighting over an imaginary belt. Even so, they don't exist anymore! If they did Perry and Lucic would have a formal square off at every Bruins Ducks match-up.
The so-called "fighters" these days barely offer quality hockey at the AHL level. Those guys exist purely to put butts in seats.
Now if it's guys who will stand up for their teammates you want, I'm all for a Simmonds type on this team. That would be AWESOME. But Mcgrattan is no substitute for that. All he brings is an on ice liability, which means we can no longer roll all 4 lines against whomever. He's not out there protecting Joakim Andersson, he's putting on a spectacle for the fans.
Right. I knew there was something I didn't get. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'll defer to your wisdom. Mike Green would be an excellent #2 Dman.
According to some Kronwall can't handle #1 spot either
any interest in Wisniewski? I know he has a modified NTC and would probably have to submit a list of teams or something, but instead of blowing the wad on a #2 guy, maybe spend a bit less on a better #3?
Don't know, I am just looking at the bottom dwellers and seeing who may be looking to make a deal...speaking of bottom dwelling, WTF happened to Colorado?
Highly doubt we show any interests after his comments about Detroit's management.