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#2536381 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 08:12 PM

I'm pretty sure we burned a year of Dekeyser's contract in 2012-13 when we kept him up at the end the year even though the "smart" business decision would have been to send him to GR.


Yes, but Dekeyser is an underpaid god amongst men, deserving of 4 million a year, and is a future #1 D unless Holland F's it up someho. Don't you pay attention PVD?

#2536380 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 08:08 PM

Good move!


Ok so after the Tatar and DeKeyser deals, Holland will need about $5.5 Million cap space to sign Smith and Nyquist next off season. Don't expect any UFA or deadline moves.

The Quincey deal makes more sense. There will be cap space available when DeKeyser's deal is up.


Right on. Who know's what Smith + Nyquist will get/demand, but this probably puts us in a good position no matter what.

#2536367 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 06:51 PM

Mantha with a rocket at 6:40


Holy Stamkos Batman!

#2536366 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 06:38 PM

A lot less than I thought also now it's quite clear what cost the delay - lowballing.


If the guy continues to play this well his next contract will be a huge one that's for sure if he wants to stay. Danny gave a huge hometown discount here just so he can attend the camp what a player what a person..


So now he should be good to go for the camp book him a flight + room and let's start training camp.





What post are you referring to?


And that really is a complaint to you?   If Dekeyser develops in the next couple years then he will very likely get a big payday next time.  It's off-handed speculation that's based on history.  It's the nature of bridge deals.








Yes it is.


Any player who plays better gets better deals.... duh


Signing DD to this term at this price is GREAT. Complaining about his possible next deal, when he hasn't even played one game under this deal, already, is just digging for something to be mad about.


Couple that with the ridiculous "Holland's a low-baller" speak going around, and yeah it's annoying.

#2536355 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 05:51 PM

As I mentioned earlier - had DD been offered what some thought would be a 'fair' deal ($2.75 to $3 million per season) - I'm certain he would've signed.


Again - it was Holland who was lowballing, but ya can't blame him since he had the leverage.


How in the world can you prove Holland lowballed him?


Perhaps DD, the loyal Michigander and Wings fan that he is, wanted to get something locked up long term? Maybe Ken got cold feet on a long deal after signing Kindl? Maybe the entire delay was over term, with which they finally agreed on 2 years after adjusting the financials?

Or maybe not one of us has any idea whatsoever?


Good deal IMO

#2536348 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 05:39 PM


So you're complaining about some possible future complaining?  Not really a whole lot better. 


And you're also ignoring that you basically blamed Dekeyser for the holdup with zero  information, which is no different than those blaming Holland on no information.  




Had Holland made that offer you were right that it likely would've been done a month ago, but Holland wasn't offering that.  Seeing what Dekeyser signed for, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't major holdup.


Possible future complaining? It already started with the "He's gonna demand a ton after this deal"

#2536315 Wings v Rags Dec 6

Posted by number9 on Yesterday, 03:06 PM

Hey all 


 Looks like  I will be in the Detroit area in early Dec and see on the schedule that the Rags are in town on Dec 6.  Anyone know anyone that might be willing to sell tickets? I would rather try to buy from forum members vs ticket master. 






Unrelated: I wanna change my LGW handle to BuffaloWings

#2536207 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by number9 on 14 September 2014 - 09:30 PM

That is definitely a strong possibility but I think Frk is just a lot more prepared, both mentally and physically than he was at any point last year. He found out the hard way that coasting from junior to pro just doesn't work without putting in the work. I don't really think he was put in a position to succeed last year so I hope that after a strong camp and preseason he can gain some confidence and get off to a good start in his second year pro. I've always liked Frk and I'd love for him to become relevant as a prospect once again.


After we drafted Frk I made sure to watch him at juniors. He was BEASTLY. Very physical and dynamic. Was extremely underwhelmed and disappointed with him after his first season with us. If anyone can turn it around it's him.

#2536205 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by number9 on 14 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

It seems like Nosek was the best thing to happen to Frks career with us. Almost like he was brought in to push Frk. I think the two should remain together.

#2536204 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by number9 on 14 September 2014 - 08:50 PM

Ovechkin is lazy, selfish and as one dimensional as they come. Mark my words the guy will be the next Kovalchuk


Hits like crazy. As dynamic as Crosby. Plays point on the PP.


I actually think he is one of the more multi-dimensional forwards in the league. He's been lazy on the back check lately, but that's really the only blemish on his record.


Kovalchuk was never the media and fan icon that Ovechkin is. I think Ovi stays in NA for longer than you think.

#2536175 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 13 September 2014 - 10:38 PM

Unless of course Mrazek is the next Blaine Lacher Jim Carey (not the actor) or Andrew Raycroft.

An islander goalie comes to mind

Pretending prospects are sure things is a dangerous game

#2536128 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by number9 on 12 September 2014 - 10:28 PM


If those players all earn their spots (extremely unlikely), why should they not make the team? Callahan, Ferraro and others all have the same opportunity to prove their worth in the pre-season too. It's not like these are highly valued prospects the Wings would be giving up for nothing. They are marginal NHL players at best. I'm not writing them off, but they should get evaluated before the regular season and decisions should be based on merit. I'm not a huge fan of "send them down because you can" if those guys can help the Wings win now and into the future as well. 



uhhhh because the preseason is not the real NHL. Half a teams roster is AHL players or worse in the preseason.  Players that must clear waivers Ishould be given at least 5 to 10 games in real NHL matches before deciding the fate of possibly their entire career with the team...


Demanding Mantha and Jurco play on opening night is the definition of impatient fandom. They can and should wait 3 games, 5 games, or even 10 so the rest of team can be correctly evaluated.

#2536126 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by number9 on 12 September 2014 - 10:10 PM

I didn't suggest throwing away scraps as you put it in order to get a big trade , just said unless guys step up our only other way to make something happen would be through a big trade (Tatar,pulkkinen,1st rounder! you d ... Whatever)

And I didn't mention anything negative bout Callahan , I fact I wanted him here last season because he's the type of guy we don't really have on the team , just seeing all the players and spots and I just can't see him getting a spot unfortunetly

As you said though we'll see what happens at training camp


Starting Mantha, Jurco, Ouellet, Marchenko and so on on the starting roster, sends guys to waivers. That's throwing away scraps. Giving up players for nothing.

My Callahan comment was not meant to be directed at you personally

#2536123 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by number9 on 12 September 2014 - 09:43 PM

Well I think if were gonna contend again with hank and pav still here were gonna need some of our better younger prospects to help out , unless we pull off a big trade

Cleary miller Andersson are taking up 3 spots and I think we can do a better job in the back end


IDK who dnumber9 is, but I gotta say I like the guy!

A trade involving those guys or others like them would be awesome, but it's not gonna happen. No one wants to give up anything good for our scraps. Phasing those guys out and bring up the kids is not a one season/preseason process. They're going to be phased out throughout this season and the coming ones.


It's a brand new season. Ferraro Callahan Cleary and Kindl could all surprise us and come back better then ever. Well-liked guys like Tatar could suddenly disappoint. You just don't know. Ericsson surprised everyone. Hudler disappointed everyone. I think all our scraps deserve a fair shot to prove they're not what we have pigeon-holed them to be. If they don't do that I have no problem sending them down for a kid. Lets just be patient and honor the players who deserve a shot.


The sudden eagerness to throw Callahan to the wolves particularly irks me. Highly praised by LGW throughout last season for his goal scoring and toughness in GR, now suddenly hie' expendable. People have 2 minutes memories.

#2536108 Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

Posted by number9 on 12 September 2014 - 08:38 PM

What you'd like to see would involve sending to waivers/removing up to 5 different players. That's insane.