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#2534401 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 16 August 2014 - 09:03 PM

The Ehrhoff signing is almost a Hossa one and it clearly shows how the reception has changed. Back in the days top ufas wanted to come here and now the team is lucky to even be on their final lists. Nielsen has the connection yes, but the caps also presented him with an offer that was 4 million better than ours. Ehrhoff at 4 million is far from costly it's an absolute steal, Niskanen at only 5.75 or is also far from costly that guy is only getting better from now on because he is entering his prime. If a team doesn't get the top guys they need to draft top guys and develop them, the Wings for sure know how to develop players but only being good enough to just make the playoffs or missing them could easily lead to a Calgary our Buffalo situation in a few years. So the pressure for the prospects is already high and if one of the defenders turns out to be just average uuuuu...It's all I can say. Holland simple can't afford to wait and hope for the big signing anymore, as former mentioned this team isn't a premier destination anymore..So he needs to pull out some tricks o ur else this won't be far from the worst we might see. Is it fair who knows? But he is getting paid the big bucks and now has 4 years to prove he can still be the much needed mastermind behind the Wings. The whole loyalty thing is also funny, where was that when it came down to Draper, Dmac or Downey ? But given his performance since 2009 and one mistake after another it should easily be understandable why some fans are worried.


No and no.

#2534398 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 16 August 2014 - 07:10 PM

I will say Weiss can be bust. I also agree z can play center and I would prefer him there BUT we have a lack of top 6 wingers right now. Moving z to center would hurt that. As of right now there isn't anyone good enough to play with z and dat moving z to center means we would need two top line wingers maybe nyquist can be one maybe not we don't know yet.

I think we should wait to see if we win a cup with a core of smith dekeyser nyquist and Tatar before people can make tht statement. Were still in the process in my opinion. I said it before we will see if the wings the cup or have a top ten pick first and see if their method has truly worked or not.

The point in saying is the wings had some high picks to get their core (yzerman) then they continued to draft and trade/sign free agents to maintain competitive.

The kings are at the point now where to continue their success they'll need to continue drafting well with worse picks. Continue making trades/signing free agents which they are. The kings have a recipe that is what the wings USED to do. That's why I believe the kings can very well continue their success for the next ten years just like us.

Now the wings aren't signing free agents or making key trades like they used to. And to me that's the difference in one just making the playoffs and is competing for a cup.

There's a veryyyy different strategy when you have a young core, opposed to an old one.

#2534320 Kevin Hayes

Posted by number9 on 15 August 2014 - 01:49 PM

HA, suck it hawks

#2534316 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 15 August 2014 - 01:09 PM


Is he?  And are we competitive?


Competitive for Cup?  No way.  Competitive for making the playoffs every year?  You bet ya.  


How do you define trying and how do you define competitive?  


I really do believe every team who makes the playoffs is competitive for the cup. Are our chances as good as say Chicago, Boston, or LA? No. But there's 26 other teams in a similar position as us, or in a worse one. It's going to be a few years before we are a true powerhouse again, but the fact that we are still making it to the show in the mean time is pretty darn good, and hard for any GM to do.

#2534284 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 07:42 PM


Yes because the team he inherited won all those games....It obviously never changed....we never acquired or drafted anyone good....oh right let me guess....someone else gets all the credit for that... :ok:


Holland has been with us since 94 I believe, but still doesn't get any credit. Nill doesn't even work for us anymore and he sometimes still gets credit. Baffles me.

Actually the most shocking thing to me is how shocking this is to some people (Holland being reupped)

#2534267 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 03:36 PM

Do people really think Burke will go into the season with the current flames roster they need defense. ? But if this is the final roster Hiller will need to play unreal that's for sure although I love the toughness of this team.


We know. We get it. You love fighters.


By people I'm assuming you mean me. Yes I do. He doesn't have any FA's or trade pieces available that are going to make any real impact on the team. They're going to tank. And since they're not going to be any good they've signed a lot of tough guys to put butts in seats.

#2534265 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 03:24 PM





Since taking over as Red Wings GM in July 1997, Holland, 58, has put together a team that has won more regular-season games (746) and postseason games (115) than any other NHL team.
"I'm proud of our 23 years of making the playoffs, and I'm excited about challenges going forward," he said. "We've been a team, the last two years, that's been a bubble team. I believe, if you get in and you get hot, it's wide open.
"Our goal going into 2014-15 is, hopefully, we can compete with the top teams in the East, with Boston and Tampa Bay, and Montreal, which went to the final four. We've got a tough division. We're trying to compete for a playoff spot, be a contender.
"At the same time, we're also trying to develop young players to build a core much like we did in late '80s, early '90s that carried us for a decade, and then again in the late '90s. I'm optimistic and excited about our younger players, that they will continue to develop into Detroit Red Wings players."
In a statement released by the team, owners Mike and Marian Ilitch cited Holland's success, saying that "Ken is regarded as one of the premier executives in the National Hockey League and has been instrumental in the success of the Red Wings over the last two decades. Marian and I are extremely pleased that he will continue to lead our hockey club over the next four years.
"We feel strongly that stability is key to the success of any organization, and having this new agreement in place with Ken is important to the organization and its future."



#2534245 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 11:51 AM

Chiarelli guy knows how to build a team and the Bruins fans aren't happy with him


That does not mean he's going to be fired at all lol. Red Wings fans HATE Holland right now and the guy just got an extension. Why? Because 99% of fans are blithering idiots who can't see past the next immediate season, so I'm sure the organization really couldn't care less what we think.


EDIT: There's no option available better than Holland

#2534240 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 11:37 AM

Hold your breath it still isn't over and Danny still hasn't re-signed with the team so it can still go downhill :-( this off season is not over yet and I'm extremely worried.but one thing it's for sure this has been the most challenging one since almost two decades.


Plenty RFA's around the league haven't signed yet. It's absolutely nothing to be worried about.

When it comes to Holland, who exactly are you all hoping we were going to replace him with???

#2534220 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by number9 on 14 August 2014 - 09:42 AM

Best signing yet. Hollands offseason acquisition is himself. His deadline acquisition will be Babs.

#2534187 Griffins sign Wisconsin Forward Tyler Barnes

Posted by number9 on 13 August 2014 - 06:39 PM

Bought time we got a big signing!!!

#2534136 Helmer: First one to get a herniated disc in the new Season?

Posted by number9 on 13 August 2014 - 12:20 AM

about 120 pounds on your shoulders? I hope he can handle that.  Keeping balance is the difficult part and does ad a little strain, but not that much. Me and my friends used to have pool wars where put our girlfriends on our shoulders and attack each other. I'm kind of a wuss, but it was not difficult. Look if you go to festivals. There's always many skinny white dudes with a girls on their shoulders.


I was being sarcastic. Couldn't you tell??? :w00t:


I don't think anyone seriously here believes that. The writer is just trying to drum up news in the off-season when there isn't any... and this is the best he could do.

#2534081 Alfie wants to play

Posted by number9 on 12 August 2014 - 10:22 AM

Planet earth isn't lala land and on planet earth every team has to deal with injuries.
If Alfie wants to be back he won't make a lot of money, because the Wings still have to re-sign Danny D and he can kiss the cup dream goodbye. If the team misses the playoffs - which is very possible - he will end his career on a bad last year. He deserves better but that's the reality and not lala land, where this team would make 94 or even crazier 110 points *laughs*

Yup every team has injuries, but none had nearly as many as we did to key players last season. We will have our fair share of injuries, but it's highly unlikely to be anything close to as bad as last season. And last season we made the playoffs.

#2534051 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by number9 on 11 August 2014 - 10:22 PM

I think we really lost a great player when it came to Lapointe.  I know the Wings weren't matching that Ludacris contract Boston gave him, but he was being groomed to be the next Captain.  Pound for Pound (thanks Mick!) he was the toughest little son of a B in the league.  He backed down from nobody.  He also could shoot the puck.  We miss players like Marty.  He may not of been my favorite, but he was missed.


Lapointe sucks, Lilja rules.

#2534050 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by number9 on 11 August 2014 - 10:19 PM


When Hakan Andersson says after this years draft that “hopefully we were able to get a centre to play with Mantha” I file that under:


- things I believe to not be bulls*** hype

- things said by a super-scout about a prospect, with a level of reverence never used on Jarnkrok.


When I read Fischer’s quotes on Jarnkrok I think of the passionate way in which he spoke of Sproul in this video (starting at the 50 second mark). When he says “Sproul can shoot the puck better, harder, under pressure, than 90% of the players in the NHL” (2:45) I want to believe him, but part of me knows that there’s probably some over-zealousness in play. I imagine him looking and sounding the same way when talking about Jarnkrok:



But whatevs. Maybe I’m over-analysing. I just find it hard to accept that Holland would knowingly trade “the next Zetterberg” for David Legwand but then say that Tatar, Jurco, Nyquist, and Sheahan are basically untouchable. 



I agree with you on that, and that's why I was for the trade. I Know they know better than me. I just don't think we should bash Calle until he really shows his value. In my book he's still a top level prospect until he proves otherwise. And like I said I will be so relived if the otherwise happens.