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#2577074 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:28 PM

 

Wow...missing the point much? Holland clearly is regarded as a good GM. Im sure he learned something...that said, I believe he's overrated because of the team he used to have around him. Same way that people still debate Roy over Brodeur even though Marty has way more stats to back his claim. Marty's stats were skewed by the system he was in. Roy's weren't, generally. That doesn't mean Brodeur wasn't a great goalie...it just means he may not be what people think. I Marty would have been traded to the Isles in '02...it may be a completely different conversation. I think if Holland took over Carolina right now...we'd see him a lot differently. I don't think he would go into there like Nill went into to Dallas.

 

So you're deciding to base your entire line of  argument on "what if Holland went to a bad/different team?" And then assuming he would do bad? Despite that there exists zero evidence to back that conclusion? Or any conclusion involving that premise?

 

Goodluck with the straw grasping brother. I'm out.




#2577070 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:24 PM

 

How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.

 

Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 

 

This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

 

I turn 30 in a month and I've been following the Wings since I was 7. Get rekt.




#2577058 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:09 PM

 

How old are you? May I ask? I turn 29 this month and I've followed the Wings religiously my entire life from age 8. For some reason i actually retain most of the generally useless history, info, players, trades, and dialogue I've heard along the way. I've followed the Wings for the entirety of Holland's tenure as GM and I have a particular addiction to information I've come across about NHL front offices. I like to think, as a fan, I'm about as informed as I can be enough to make the claims I do.

 

Holland has done a lot of things right in his time with the Wings, but he also had an All-Star cast of Front Office support along the way...not limited to Dellevano, Scotty Bowman (who I believe brought way more than people even thought...and they thought he brought a lot), Nill, Mark Howe, and several others. But since those people have started moving on, his ability to make good trades has nose dived. If Babcock creates good coaches, I believe Holland was created by other good front office people. HE does not seem to be a great stand alone GM. The two things that he is most credited for are also other peoples jobs (cap management and scouting). 

 

This is far more than vibes bro, but thanks for playing.

 

110% true. Lower level employees do ALL the work. It's not like managers hire, manage employees, and guide the overall vision of the business. They just sit in their office and kick tires while watching netflix. Bums. Fire them. NOW.

 

EDIT: Clearly Holland never learned anything while working with so many great hockey men. Which is baffling considering how are teams stays elite by great vets teaching great young kids. Holland MUST be slow or something.




#2577056 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 11:02 PM

Damn, I didn't know he was only 5'8.

 

Most likely why he never made the NHL. But he's got the hands of a top 6 NHL center. Nosek has the size that fits the NHL, but he's not quite as skilled. I think that's why I like guys like Pulks and Jurco playing with Miele. When they get to the NHL they'll be up to speed on the skill game.




#2577052 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 10:54 PM

Isn't mieles also like 5 yrs older and like 5'8?

 

Yeah, small and almost 27. But damn he lights up the minors. I have no problem with our young wingers learning and gaining confidence from him while in GR. That's what he's for.




#2577033 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 10:29 PM

So right now we're looking at something like this:

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Weiss - Sheahan - Glendening

Miller - Andersson - Cleary

Pulkkinen

 

If everyone gets healthy (I know I included zberg in the first lineup, he's almost back)

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetterberg - Abdelkader

Helm - Sheahan - Franzen

Miller - Weiss - Glendening

 

All 4 of those line can be a threat defensively and offensively. That's pretty sick. Now the defense...




#2576825 Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

Posted by number9 on 01 March 2015 - 08:09 PM

Abby + Franzen = Cole.

 

I think our top 6 just got way more dangerous and less one-dimensional.

 

Tatar - Datsyuk - Cole

Nyquist - Zetters - Abby

 

If Franzan can come back we'll be lookin even betta




#2575713 Red Wings Road Fans Appreciation

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 08:18 PM

I feel like a lot of people have left Michigan for greener pastures (including myself). Hence why there are a lot of transplanted Wings fans, especially south/west where the economy is doing better.




#2575693 Couture suspen.....no wait, just fined pocket change

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 05:57 PM

:lol: That is only 0.00083% of his $6,000,000 salary....that'd be like me getting fined $67! I have a feeling I'd miss the $67 more than he is going to miss the $5000. NHLPA is some bulls***.  In the video he even lifted his leg way back in the opposite direction to get a good whack at Smith.  I've never seen a worse slew foot, and am I hearing right that Smith is the one who got a hooking penalty on the play?  Wow NHL, Wow....

 

You make $80,000 a year




#2575628 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 02:19 PM


 

Peanuts from someone making 3mil per year


DON'T TOUCH MY SMITTY


#2575626 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 02:10 PM

DON'T TOUCH MY ZETTERS


#2575596 Zetterberg leaves after 2nd Period; "upper body injury"

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2015 - 12:23 PM

As much as I don't like him when he floats around and takes nights off, he may have a very real, and serious, concussion issue. At this point, his future quality of life could be a greater concern than his hockey career.

 

What a pansy




#2574983 2/26 GDT : Red Wings 3 at San Jose Sharks 2

Posted by number9 on 26 February 2015 - 02:04 PM

Glad this ones a late start. Going to a section final game for high school. Probably miss couple minutes of this only.


The west coast trips always mean late nights and rough mornings for me. I fell asleep halfway through the 2nd of the LA. When I saw the score the next morning I went from mad I missed it to instantly happy I got more sleep.


#2574896 Avs Coach Roy Not Brightest Bulb

Posted by number9 on 25 February 2015 - 08:38 PM

Losing 5-2 is basically the same as 4-1. Pulling the goalie with 12 minutes left is pretty unheard of, but it did'nt really burn him, so whatever.

 

Well you can't really get burned when your already losing 4-1. A loss is a loss.




#2574632 2/24 GDT : Red Wings 0 at Kings 1

Posted by number9 on 25 February 2015 - 12:03 AM

The Kings announcer literally calls everyone Kronwall....Pulkcannon, Dekeyser, Gustavsson.

 

Was just coming here to complain about this. They dumb.