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You're right of course.

 

Hell Scotty Bowman wouldn't be more than .500 right now with this group.  The coach can only do so much and these are allegedly professionals here.

 

When this forum accepts the fact that the losses due to FA and retirement mean this team isn't anywhere near talented enough to really be a contender, that will be the day that LGW and threads like this one become more bearable.

 

Reality check time, this team is mediocre.

I'm not saying we're not a contender. I believe that any team who makes the playoffs can win the cup these days.

I'm saying the Wings expect a down year to retool. Playoffs or not. Coaching is irrelevant right now IMO.

In my honest personal opinion, I really like Babs. He's the hardass that doesn't care if you like him or not. He wins. A Detroit guy. Sucks that he has to be the guy to deal with this year. I'm sure he's frustrated. But that's business.

I'm sorry but this is so typical. Team starts under-performing and now all of the sudden the coach needs to take a hike. This is classic fandom in the works. Babs makes one confusing move (Abby-Dats-Cleary) that the fans don't like and all of the sudden he needs to be replaced? Keep your heads on.

For all we know Abby walked into his office and said: "I can be that next PWF if u'd let me", and Mike said: "Ok, this is a gap year, an experimentation year, lets see what you got." Gives him a shot in the top 6 and it didn't workout. Big whoop.

Abby's still young somewhat young for hockey, doesn't hurt to experiment with your young guys.

I'm not claiming to be anything special, but I swear half of LGW would be worse than Garth Snow.... but still, it's the only forum I come to

Possibly the biggest news story for one of the biggest hockey franchises ever is being broken by a fan blogger and not a legit news source? yeah, not buyin it.

Mike Brown is a great fighter, though.  Edmonton must have felt they needed some toughness.  So he had some value to them.  Pretty solid hitter too.    

 

I can see some team coughing something up for Cleary based on past playoff performances, but they wouldn't be doing their homework if they did.  Abby is young, which is the only thing I can envision a team seeing in him.  

 

I know I'm no GM, but I wouldn't trade any picks for those players if I'm running another team.  I'd call up my own guys from the minors instead.     

Brown over his last 66 games (2 seasons): 6 pts, 153 hits
Cleary last years 75 games: 33 pts, 90 hits
Abby last years 81 games: 22 pts, 148 hits
Miller: last years 80 games: 25 pts, 79 hits

Abby looks identical minus the fighting. Cleary is a great secondary scorer with half the hits. Miller had only 79 hits but he more than quadrupedal Brown's scoring.

Cleary can PK, PP, skate, add work ethic, and a little scoring (thought he's been slow to start this year)
Abby can PK, hit, and skate
Miller, can PK and skate

just to say all 3 can PK effectively is worth a 7th rounder to someone out there IMO

I'll say I would never have asked a 4th rounder for brown though. great fighter, but that's overpriced

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We have too many 'filler' players anyway, we would be better by subtraction

Disagreed. This is a business. Losing assets, big or small, for nothing is not smart. I agree we need to dump our filler guys, but doing that through the waiver wire is bad business. Tots will get some heavy ice time in the minors (which is good) and play there until room is made for him through trade. It's the classic dumb hockey move, but smart business move. At the end of the day business trumps hockey. Playing Tatar now and losing other guys through waivers helps us in the short term but hurts us for the next 10 years when we get nothing in return for them.

I think it's very foolish to take Brunner out of the top 6. He's very much a top 6 guy and very much on an expiring contract. Hate to be a player pleaser, but the young goal scoring star who needs to be re-signed is not the guy you demote on a contract year. Let him flourish and fall in love with this system in the top 6 with the stars he signed on to play with.

The only guys who should not be up for demotion right now are Z, D, and B. Everyone else is on the chopping block.

Hossa will sign where the team is competitive and the money is right. He doesn't give a flying f*** about Detroit unless he can get the contract he wants out of Ken. And I'm doubting Ken will be willing to cash out for a guy he let walk a few years ago.

Kronwall can move the puck, White can move the puck, Colo can move the puck, Quincey can move the puck, Kindl can move the puck, Smith can move the puck.

Sure Campbell can move the puck slightly better, but puckermovers are not what we need.

Sorry but this thread IMO is ridiculous. With that contract for Campbell, Holland wouldn't even look once. We might as well discuss trading Emmerton for Chara while were at it. 

Becasue after all, agents NEVER Lie....... I mean, what would the bargining position be? Hi, I am here to negotiate datsyuk's next contract. We want 5 years and 35 million dollars. But pavel wants to return home in 1 year. Or 2 or 3....... How do you think that will play?

 

BTW Scott Boras is on line 2, he has the best closer in baseball over the last 3 years ready to sign a new deal for the Tigers.

.......uhhhh why would Datsyuk's agent want good bargaining position for a contract if Datsyuk doesn't want a contract?

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Sammy is one of the streakiest players ever, but he never gets accused of floating... at least not that I've heard. Seems unfair to be hating on Franzen.

New Central Division
Detroit

Chicago

Toronto

Montreal

Boston

NYR

New Poop Division

Pittsburgh

Vancouver

San Jose

Colorado

St. Louis

Nashville

I'm still torn on whether or not Chicago should be in the Central Division or the Poop Division. Thoughts?

I for one never minded milbury too much. In this instance he's spot on.

Didn't Fedorov used to do that all the time? I remember Stevie Y injuring a certain Chrissy Pronger that way too. To me that's the risk you run when you go to run someone. Can't tell someone not to dodge a hit if they can.

Kindl + 2nd round pick for Lebda

Kenny: "Lebda's a guy that's been here before and has shown he has chemistry with our other guys. I like where we stand."