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#2369049 Datsyuk Leaving?!

Posted by number9 on 14 March 2013 - 03:12 PM

Possibly the biggest news story for one of the biggest hockey franchises ever is being broken by a fan blogger and not a legit news source? yeah, not buyin it.

#2368234 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by number9 on 12 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

Mike Brown is a great fighter, though.  Edmonton must have felt they needed some toughness.  So he had some value to them.  Pretty solid hitter too.    


I can see some team coughing something up for Cleary based on past playoff performances, but they wouldn't be doing their homework if they did.  Abby is young, which is the only thing I can envision a team seeing in him.  


I know I'm no GM, but I wouldn't trade any picks for those players if I'm running another team.  I'd call up my own guys from the minors instead.     

Brown over his last 66 games (2 seasons): 6 pts, 153 hits
Cleary last years 75 games: 33 pts, 90 hits
Abby last years 81 games: 22 pts, 148 hits
Miller: last years 80 games: 25 pts, 79 hits

Abby looks identical minus the fighting. Cleary is a great secondary scorer with half the hits. Miller had only 79 hits but he more than quadrupedal Brown's scoring.

Cleary can PK, PP, skate, add work ethic, and a little scoring (thought he's been slow to start this year)
Abby can PK, hit, and skate
Miller, can PK and skate

just to say all 3 can PK effectively is worth a 7th rounder to someone out there IMO

I'll say I would never have asked a 4th rounder for brown though. great fighter, but that's overpriced

#2368168 4 Forwards that are/may be available, that help us:

Posted by number9 on 12 March 2013 - 08:12 PM


#2368154 Nyquist called up, Tatar sent down

Posted by number9 on 12 March 2013 - 07:59 PM

We have too many 'filler' players anyway, we would be better by subtraction

Disagreed. This is a business. Losing assets, big or small, for nothing is not smart. I agree we need to dump our filler guys, but doing that through the waiver wire is bad business. Tots will get some heavy ice time in the minors (which is good) and play there until room is made for him through trade. It's the classic dumb hockey move, but smart business move. At the end of the day business trumps hockey. Playing Tatar now and losing other guys through waivers helps us in the short term but hurts us for the next 10 years when we get nothing in return for them.

#2367876 Brunner to go with Tootoo and Tatar?

Posted by number9 on 11 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

I think it's very foolish to take Brunner out of the top 6. He's very much a top 6 guy and very much on an expiring contract. Hate to be a player pleaser, but the young goal scoring star who needs to be re-signed is not the guy you demote on a contract year. Let him flourish and fall in love with this system in the top 6 with the stars he signed on to play with.

The only guys who should not be up for demotion right now are Z, D, and B. Everyone else is on the chopping block.

#2367860 If Hossa is bought out

Posted by number9 on 11 March 2013 - 09:15 PM

Hossa will sign where the team is competitive and the money is right. He doesn't give a flying f*** about Detroit unless he can get the contract he wants out of Ken. And I'm doubting Ken will be willing to cash out for a guy he let walk a few years ago.

#2365659 Would you trade for Brian Campbell?

Posted by number9 on 06 March 2013 - 02:39 AM

Kronwall can move the puck, White can move the puck, Colo can move the puck, Quincey can move the puck, Kindl can move the puck, Smith can move the puck.


Sure Campbell can move the puck slightly better, but puckermovers are not what we need.


Sorry but this thread IMO is ridiculous. With that contract for Campbell, Holland wouldn't even look once. We might as well discuss trading Emmerton for Chara while were at it. 

#2364862 This should scare us all......

Posted by number9 on 04 March 2013 - 09:40 PM

Becasue after all, agents NEVER Lie....... I mean, what would the bargining position be? Hi, I am here to negotiate datsyuk's next contract. We want 5 years and 35 million dollars. But pavel wants to return home in 1 year. Or 2 or 3....... How do you think that will play?


BTW Scott Boras is on line 2, he has the best closer in baseball over the last 3 years ready to sign a new deal for the Tigers.

.......uhhhh why would Datsyuk's agent want good bargaining position for a contract if Datsyuk doesn't want a contract?

#2364801 Franzen Is The Wings Most Undeserved Whipping Boy

Posted by number9 on 04 March 2013 - 06:59 PM



Sammy is one of the streakiest players ever, but he never gets accused of floating... at least not that I've heard. Seems unfair to be hating on Franzen.

#2363402 Red Wings to be in an Eastern conference in latest NHL/NHLPA proposal

Posted by number9 on 02 March 2013 - 12:30 AM

New Central Division







New Poop Division



San Jose


St. Louis



I'm still torn on whether or not Chicago should be in the Central Division or the Poop Division. Thoughts?

#2362172 Milbury rips Ovechkin

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

I for one never minded milbury too much. In this instance he's spot on.

#2361841 Ed Olczyk, professional broadcaster, professional idiot

Posted by number9 on 27 February 2013 - 09:30 AM

Didn't Fedorov used to do that all the time? I remember Stevie Y injuring a certain Chrissy Pronger that way too. To me that's the risk you run when you go to run someone. Can't tell someone not to dodge a hit if they can.

#2361226 Wings sign (D) Brian Lashoff to 3-year, $2.175m extension

Posted by number9 on 25 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

Kindl + 2nd round pick for Lebda

Kenny: "Lebda's a guy that's been here before and has shown he has chemistry with our other guys. I like where we stand."

#2361200 OHL vs. College Hockey Quality?

Posted by number9 on 25 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

Sporting News article on the NCAA vs. the CHL from a couple of years ago. It does focus more on the business of colleges losing recruits to the Canadian junior leagues mostly, but does have a few quips that are relevent to this conversation:


Can't seem to track it down, but I also remember an article from around the same time describing a survey done about parents being more willing now to send their kids the college route instead of the CHL as the NCAA was closing the gap in developing NHL ready prospects with the CHL.

As a parent I would always send my kid the NCAA route. Even if my kid was Crosby. You just never know how someone will pan out, e.g. Daigle. Much better to have an education to fall back on... plus it's good to have a college education, even if you never need to formally use it.

#2360963 OHL vs. College Hockey Quality?

Posted by number9 on 24 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

I think the CHL produces better elite talent, but if you were to play the top teams in both leagues against each other, the NCAA would win in a walk.


Mostly due to the fact that players are recruited rather than drafted so the talent isn't as spread out. Combined with the fact that the NCAA tends to have a lot more older and more physically developed players.

If you meant that NCAA players are older and thus farther along in physical growth, then yes you are correct, thats a given. But if you meant that they are more physical players, or better because of that growth, that's dead wrong. Many 16 yr old OHLers would out muscle/grind 21 yr old NCAA players. The physicality of OHL games is far above anything in the NCAA