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#2536481 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by number9 on 18 September 2014 - 07:48 AM

I would prefer being the next Don Cherry

All out truculence

#2536466 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 09:17 PM

Me thinks they just might have a few guys from Providence (AHL) that they could call up.


Then again - I hope they don't, and Lucic can fend for himself.


Or ya kno... they just don't role a typical enforcer... like 20 other teams

#2536465 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 09:05 PM


DeKeyser is much better defensively and moves the puck well too. Lashoff doesn't have the slightest ounce of offensive ability -- that's just pure hyperbole and doesn't take into account the massive difference in skill between Smith and Lashoff. 


Every time Smith and Quincey have played together, it has failed miserably as a pairing. Smith was the Wings best d-man during the Boston series and has the potential to contribute more offensively if the Wings allow him to do so, which would be wise since they got nothing from that standpoint a season ago. Restricting Smith to Quincey again isn't going to help Smith's development.


If you aren't a fan of DeKeyser with Smith, then put DeKeyser with E instead and let Smith go with Kronwall. 



My point is: Everyone is better with Kronwall, Kronwall is awesome.


People act like Smith could be become awesome, and if he would only play with Kronwall that would happen. But that's the thing, he's only good when he's playing with Kronwall.


Dekeyser is good. But so is Ericsson. You might as well pair Smith with Ericsson. Dekeyser is not a great puck mover by any means, he's decent and he has a good slap shot which is about it, he's a defensively minded player. Just like Ericsson.


Switching out Q and D is not going to suddenly make our D better, in fact it will probably just look the same.


Pushing an offensive minded guy like Smith with another guy with somehwat of an O mind only hurts ur second pairing IMO. Cause then your second pairing is Q-D-E ALL DEFENSIVE GUYS. No balance there.

#2536464 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

Babcock is smart, not dumb. As a smart man he knows what he's going to get from the Wings/Holland. That's a playoff chance each and every year. Some better than others. He likes his manager and the system that caters to him. By leaving he runs a huge risk. He walks into a system that may be hot now, but might not be hot tmrw or in 3 years. He might have to deal with big headed players he doesn't like. Big headed managers he doesn't like. Other problems unbeknownst to him.


The Wings offer a very stable system, where he knows he's gonna good young talent every year, even if the trade pipelines don't workout.


Doubt he leaves. That's a coaching paradise. Crosby may be good, But he has only one cup bc there has been a disaster of problems around him. If I'm babcock I don't want to handcuff myself to that system. I also want my legacy to be reconized because I was awesome. Not because Crosby and Malkin were, aka GlenSather

#2536461 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 08:35 PM

The Quincey/Smith pairing has never worked and Babs just keeps reverting back to it if that is the case again. Smith needs someone that allows him to jump into plays and be more active offensively. He played his best hockey by far with Kronwall as his partner last season. I don't care so much if the Wings leave Kronwall and E together, but at least play Smith with DeKeyser.


Quincey on the third pairing with whichever other mistake is necessary or ideally Marchenko/Ouellet instead. 


Q and D are both defensive Dmen. I highly doubt D is going to suddenly re-energize Smith's O game because of his slightly better defensive abilities.


Any D-man on this team would excel with Kronwall ad their partner. Smith is not some strange exception. Lashoff would suddenly look lightyears better with Nik.

#2536456 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 07:54 PM

Are we giving Aaron Rome a tryout?


These rosters say a few things to me.


Kronwall and Ericsson are likely sticking together again. Smith and Quincey as well.


Jurco is separated from the kid line in favor of Nyquist, which may mean he'll be starting in GR.


I see a Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha/Jurco line forming.


Weiss is grouped with a buncha kids and Abdelkader. I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm thinking the idea is give him a big veteran leadership role early on to build confidence.


Idk about forward lines, but I see the defensive pairings shaking out pretty much exactly like last season


Kronwall - Ericsson

Smith - Quincey

Dekeyser - Kindl


#2536381 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 08:12 PM

I'm pretty sure we burned a year of Dekeyser's contract in 2012-13 when we kept him up at the end the year even though the "smart" business decision would have been to send him to GR.


Yes, but Dekeyser is an underpaid god amongst men, deserving of 4 million a year, and is a future #1 D unless Holland F's it up someho. Don't you pay attention PVD?

#2536380 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 08:08 PM

Good move!


Ok so after the Tatar and DeKeyser deals, Holland will need about $5.5 Million cap space to sign Smith and Nyquist next off season. Don't expect any UFA or deadline moves.

The Quincey deal makes more sense. There will be cap space available when DeKeyser's deal is up.


Right on. Who know's what Smith + Nyquist will get/demand, but this probably puts us in a good position no matter what.

#2536367 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 06:51 PM

Mantha with a rocket at 6:40


Holy Stamkos Batman!

#2536366 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 06:38 PM

A lot less than I thought also now it's quite clear what cost the delay - lowballing.


If the guy continues to play this well his next contract will be a huge one that's for sure if he wants to stay. Danny gave a huge hometown discount here just so he can attend the camp what a player what a person..


So now he should be good to go for the camp book him a flight + room and let's start training camp.





What post are you referring to?


And that really is a complaint to you?   If Dekeyser develops in the next couple years then he will very likely get a big payday next time.  It's off-handed speculation that's based on history.  It's the nature of bridge deals.








Yes it is.


Any player who plays better gets better deals.... duh


Signing DD to this term at this price is GREAT. Complaining about his possible next deal, when he hasn't even played one game under this deal, already, is just digging for something to be mad about.


Couple that with the ridiculous "Holland's a low-baller" speak going around, and yeah it's annoying.

#2536355 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 05:51 PM

As I mentioned earlier - had DD been offered what some thought would be a 'fair' deal ($2.75 to $3 million per season) - I'm certain he would've signed.


Again - it was Holland who was lowballing, but ya can't blame him since he had the leverage.


How in the world can you prove Holland lowballed him?


Perhaps DD, the loyal Michigander and Wings fan that he is, wanted to get something locked up long term? Maybe Ken got cold feet on a long deal after signing Kindl? Maybe the entire delay was over term, with which they finally agreed on 2 years after adjusting the financials?

Or maybe not one of us has any idea whatsoever?


Good deal IMO

#2536348 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 05:39 PM


So you're complaining about some possible future complaining?  Not really a whole lot better. 


And you're also ignoring that you basically blamed Dekeyser for the holdup with zero  information, which is no different than those blaming Holland on no information.  




Had Holland made that offer you were right that it likely would've been done a month ago, but Holland wasn't offering that.  Seeing what Dekeyser signed for, it's pretty obvious that he wasn't major holdup.


Possible future complaining? It already started with the "He's gonna demand a ton after this deal"

#2536315 Wings v Rags Dec 6

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 03:06 PM

Hey all 


 Looks like  I will be in the Detroit area in early Dec and see on the schedule that the Rags are in town on Dec 6.  Anyone know anyone that might be willing to sell tickets? I would rather try to buy from forum members vs ticket master. 






Unrelated: I wanna change my LGW handle to BuffaloWings

#2536207 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by number9 on 14 September 2014 - 09:30 PM

That is definitely a strong possibility but I think Frk is just a lot more prepared, both mentally and physically than he was at any point last year. He found out the hard way that coasting from junior to pro just doesn't work without putting in the work. I don't really think he was put in a position to succeed last year so I hope that after a strong camp and preseason he can gain some confidence and get off to a good start in his second year pro. I've always liked Frk and I'd love for him to become relevant as a prospect once again.


After we drafted Frk I made sure to watch him at juniors. He was BEASTLY. Very physical and dynamic. Was extremely underwhelmed and disappointed with him after his first season with us. If anyone can turn it around it's him.

#2536205 2014-15 Grand Rapids Griffins

Posted by number9 on 14 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

It seems like Nosek was the best thing to happen to Frks career with us. Almost like he was brought in to push Frk. I think the two should remain together.