If Brunner can score 25 to 30 goals? Are you f'ing mad? Datsyuk and Zetterberg have a hard time getting to 30. But no namer Swiss League guy is gonna just light it up out of the blue? Delusional. We will be lucky if he's still in the NHL after his first year. He's small and not lightning fast. Im not saying that Danny Brieres cant happen. But its 1 out of 1000. Parise is a sure thing. Thats why the Wings shes should have ponied up.
Well he is playing in the same league as Nash, Thornton, Spezza, Seguin, and Tavares, and he's out playing all of them.....and Zug isn't even a good team, yet he still out plays them.
We'll see how the season comes along. Gives me some hope though. There's a reason this guy was pursued by a bunch of different teams.
I give them an F. Starting with Bertuzzi, The Wings have WASTED money on all of their signings since (minus Brunner). I would much rather have Parise and Suter at 10 mil per season for 10 years and 3 other prospects than Samuelsson, Gustavson, Bertuzzi, Quincey, and Colo at 12 mil per season for 3 years. The Wings should have outbid the Wild and they didnt. Fail.
The Wild have 21% of their cap space tied up with Parise and Suter for a very long time.
The Wings have 16% of their cap space tied up with their top forward and top D-man (Datysuk and Kronwall)
The Wings have 18% of their cap space tied up with their top 2 overall players (Datsyuk and Zetterberg)
I'd also refer to the OP's points per dollar section of his article.
If the only goal of the off-season was to sign Suter and Parise, then yes we failed on both accounts. However, if one of our goals was also to "spend our money wisely" then we succeeded where the Wild failed.
Datsyuk at 6.7 > Parise at 7.5 Zetterberg at 6 > Parise at 7.5 Kronwall at 4.75 > Suter at 7.5
We don't overpay for FA's when we can wait and develop our home grown talent and put them on reasonable contracts. Build through the draft.
But why do other "violent" sports such as rugby and the NFL not have fighting? Rugby players play a sport every bit as physical as hockey, a sport where physicality and physical intimidation are every bit as important, yet fighting is not part of the culture.
maybe cause....uh.....it's a different culture
I don't know much about Football or Rugby but if they choose not to allow fighting cool, good for them, I don't care. I just hope they keep their pansy sport to themselves and don't meddle with mine.
Question for all those who grew up in the North American hockey system - at what age do kids start fighting?
Follow-up question: How do parents reconcile the message of "don't use violence to solve your problems" with "except when you're playing hockey"? Especially in a very liberal country such as Canada?
As soon as their balls drop
How do parents reconcile the message of "don't use violence to solve your problems" with the overwhelming amount of violence in the news, tv shows, movies, video games, music, and sports? fighting in hockey has nothing to do with how liberal Canada is btw
The guy was hurt all season long, it's not like he underperformed. I find it remarkable that anyone would suggest that a VERY important part of this team would need to prove himself after gutting out an entire season with injury. Certainly few would have suggested that about Kronwall or Franzen when they both hardly played during the 09-10 season.
Anyone who'd scratch Cleary is probably also scratching their neck like Tyrone Biggums
First of all, you have some good information here, but I don't like half of it lol. Let me explain why;
Bertuzzi is way too slow now to be a top-6 and does not put up the numbers anymore either.
Cleary should never be in the top-6
Nyquist played phenominal on a line with Datsyuk last year (they have great chemistry so put the young kid there to learn from the best)
Zetterberg has 5 goals and 2 assists in two games in the swiss league, and brunner has assisted on 4 of those goals. They have great chemistry and are tearing it up out there.
So my lines would be:
Ok this is a "line shuffling" thread, all I suggested was that Bert, Cleary, Sammy, Nyquist, and Brunner, are those guys that you can shuffle in and out of the top 6. Nyquist and Brunner are great but they are not going to play every game in the top 6 their first year, you'll see Sammy, Cleary, and Tuzzi in there when things need to be changed up. They are not the premier top 6ers but they aren't liabilities either.
I propose a 50/50 split... 50% of the year the league plays hockey, and the other 50% of the year the league doesn't not play hockey. Simple. Revenue will be split 50/50 as well, half going to players and owners and the other half going to a fan fund. The fan fund will only be redeemable in beer.
Actually, the owners are proposing to shorten ELCs by a year. However, the purpose of that is to lower the value of the second contract. Consider Evander Kane. Had he come off his ELC before last year, his current deal would likely be $1-2M less per year. More than makes up the difference in year 3 salary. Originally they wanted it longer, but their latest offer is 2 years.
It's arbitration and UFA eligibility the owners want to push back a year now.
Meh, one man's rhetoric is another's normal press conference. Seems to me the difference lies in whether what is said is what the listener wants/expects to hear.
ELC's are naturally always different in regards to who it benefits depending on the player. A longer ELC will benefit particular players in regards to their team, while a shorter ELC will benefit other teams in regards to the player. Yeah, if they had locked up Kane on a long-term deal for less money earlier it would have been better for the Jets. However, it's different for every different players situation.
Honestly they should all just agree to keep it at 3 years, seems to work good so far, no need change things just for the sake of changing them.
Totally disagree on your interpretation of rhetorical speech though. Their is a difference between business and rhetorical PR speech to the public. The entire hockey reporting/hockey blogging community is up in arms over all the public rhetoric being thrown around that means absolutely nothing. Bettman and Fehr both come out of meetings and spew BS that makes their side look good, trying to get the fans and such on their side. Any intelligent person can read through the rhetoric and tell the difference between what is a PR scheme and what is actual business/work getting done. Both sides are to blame, however I'd call the owners/league the instigators.
As to the "PR card", I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean. Seems like just a buzz word for irritated fans to throw around. Like "speaking the same language". Seems like you just latched onto Gary's latest soundbite, and you're using it now as if it really means something. Every meeting there are reporters eager to get what the sides have to say, and throngs of fans hanging on every tweet looking for the tiniest morsel of news, but when the news isn't "we have a deal" you all want to ***** about them talking to the media. Of course the statements they make are biased; they are biased. If they didn't actually believe "their side", there wouldn't be a lockout. I'm sure there's some level of concern over public image, but I don't think either side is foolish enough to think this fight will be won based on our opinions.
Dude, you sound like the one who hasn't been following the lockout. Each side has done nothing but throw around rhetoric. Small gains have been made but they seem more hell-bent on winning the PR battle. Don't understand what you don't understand about that, it's rather obvious.
Fil - Dats - Mule ----------------Fil and Dats have shown chemistry together, Franzen provides the bigger body that works in the dirty areas
Bert - Z - Brunner---------------Z and Brunner will have chemistry after playing for Zug together, Bert provides the big body
Goose - Helm - Sammy--------Goose brings skill, Helm brings speed and defense, Sammy brings 3rd line scoring
Toots - Abby - Cleary----------Grind line baby