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Doing the exact same thing he's done the past 3 games, killing penalties, working in the corners, battling and basically being his usual workhorse type player he's been. I'm now incredibly confident you don't watch hockey.

oh i think that much is CLEAR(Y). anyone who knows hockey (watches or plays a lot) wouldn't have an irrational hatred for Cleary....maybe huds LOL but def not danny boy

I have honestly been so scared to play nashville for a while now....with all their trade deadline acquisitions and radical radulov coming back I've been like danggggg their gonna be that much better. All the analysts are picking them to beat us and many of them chose nash to go to the finals.

then i looked at their roster today

Erat-Legwand-Radulov------------ 118 pts in 158 games (75%) weakness: Radulov's defense
Kostitsyn-Fisher-Kostitsyn-------- 106 pts in 166 games (64%) strength: Kostitsyn chemistry
Hornquist-Wilson-Smith----------- 114 pts in 216 games (53%) strength: depth, an effective 3rd scoring line
Halischuk-Gaustad-Tootoo------- 62 pts in 164 games (38%) strength: very strong checking line that can score

Suter-Weber--------------------------- 95 pts in 157 games (60%) strength: offensively and defensively sound
Ellis-Gill--------------------------------- 16 pts in 55 games (29%) strength: Gill's big body
Klein-Josi------------------------------- 37 pts in 118 games (31%) strength: depth, 3rd pairing that can score

Filppula-Datsyuk-Franzen---------- 189 pts in 228 games (83%) strength: defensively sound and playoff Franzen
Hudler-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi--------- 157 pts in 234 games (67%) strength: Zetterberg's defense and Bertuzzi's big body...weakness: Hudler's defense
Holmstrom-Helm-Cleary----------- 83 pts in 217 games (38%) strength: Helm's defense...weakness: Holmstrom's and Cleary's skating
Abdelkader-Nyquist-Miller---------- 54 pts in 179 games (30%) strength: Nyquist's skill

Lidstrom-White------------------------ 66 pts in 147 games (45%) strength: Lidstrom's defense and leadership
Kronwall-Stuart------------------------ 57 pts in 163 games (35%) strength: defensively sound and Kronwall's offense
Quincey-Ericsson--------------------- 14 pts in 87 games (16%) strength: Ericsson's big body

Nashville advantage: more depth both offensively and defensively
Detroit advantage: better top 6 and loads more playoff experience

If we are going to win this series our top 6 needs to outplay theirs and we need to match their point production from the backend......we also need to neutralize Suter and Weber, their biggest strength.

To do this I believe Smith should play to increase backend production, and we also need to get Quincey to turn it on.....Nyquist should play in the top 6 in order to add even more skill to the top 6, and send Bertuzzi down to make a more effective checking/energy line....and Homer should indeed play, anything that keeps Suter and Weber busy is good.

When all is said and done, we are a playoff team. They are not. We have way more experience and it needs to show.

GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Says he's going to play... WTF. You're at 50% you fricken moron, you're doing more harm than good!!!! I'm livid.

haha

Fricken moron Cleary! Grrrrrrr he makes me livid! Why doesnt he just go over the coaches head and sit himself??? honestly....I hate guys who nut up and power through injuries when the coaches ask them to play on it! Those guys are the worst! Lets trade all our injured players for someone decent like Gomez....guys who r injured always play so crappy....i wonder why? lets just buy Cleary out already

THANK YOU FOR A POSITIVE THREAD!!!! GO WINGS!!!

Who is a Cleary lover here?  Who has stated they love Cleary?

Pretty much everybody gets that it stinks that he is struggling probably primarily because of being injured, but only a select few thinks he has stunk from minute one on the extreme end.

The only people that say stuff like *insert player's name* lovers are the ones that have an extreme disliking of the guy with negative bias alone.  That's not really all that objective either.

Someone on LGW loves Cleary???? How could this be?? Who is it???  Didn't they hear NBC explain how Cleary shoulda been cut years ago? I'm amazed the guy is still in the NHL actually after reading this thread. He's seriously terrible. I think its a bit odd that the hockey team with the best eye for talent in the whole league would ever even consider him...quite strange. I mean its not like he is a grade A team guy or a great locker room presence, he's more like locker room cancer!!!...I believe somebody said something about his lack of intensity as well...dont get me started on that one, he is sooooo lazy, never back checks, never forechecks, never five checks, never side to side checks....pretty much the last phrase i would ever use to describe dan cleary is "one of the hardest workers on this team" yup i would definitely never describe Cleary in that way. He's also been struggling with injuries this year LOL what a nancy-boy cleary is. HATE HIM.

did i also mention i hate Floatzen, Ericsson, Hudler, Bertuzzi, Holmstrom, Kindl, Emmerton, Conklin, Abby, ANDDDDD Miller. How are these guys still on this team??? and how do we keep doing so well with all these joke hockey players on our team????

I used to HATE val fillpula too because, u kno, hes just another soft euro who doesnt shoot the puck enough....but hes having an up year this year so now i suddenly love him.

pretty much the only acceptable players we have are lids, dats, z, and howie.....everyone else should be traded for draft picks...cleary doesnt have much trade value so we should just cut him and fill his roster spot with Daigle....been hearing he wants to make a comeback to hockey. ahhhh Daigle, now thats a premium hockey player.....everything that cleary is not.

you don't understand the 1difference betweeb Zetter and Cleary?

never said anything about Zetters bucko.......we readin the same post lol?

seriously thou it angers me sometimes how much red wings fans complain about our own players when we make the playoffs and compete for the cup year in and year out....cleary is a fantastic hockey player and will be with this club for years to come so whining about him having a "down year" will do no one any good. i swear its like none of you watch him play....so what if his numbers are off this year...he brings GAME to the ice and the lockerroom everynight. hes not a numbers player anyway.

seriously? anybody who's ever played hockey in their life loves dan cleary....works hard, team guy, a guy i would never scratch.....there has been way too many topics hating on our players this year..."whats up with datsyuk?" "has zberg lost his touch?" "hudler blows like always" "big E is a *****" "franzen floats" "scratch bertuzzi" "homer sucks" and now cleary????? GM's would chop their own hand off to have a guy who plays with as much heart as cleary does. Ill go on record all day sticking up for cleary....some ppl on this forum i swear dont watch or have ever played hockey in their lives....this is the wings boys and cleary is the s***. that is all.

Homer will always be the best front of the net player, even thou his skating has gone done hill he is far from worthless...i love the Z-D-H line because not only does homer screen the goalie like crazy but he and one defensemen are forced to the front of the net....this leaves alllllll kindsssss of space on the ice for Z and D to make magic...the more space these 2 have the more they can control the puck, make deadly passes, and undress defenders. Almost makes a 4 on 4 type situation which Z and D are lethal at....then top it all off with Lids swoopin in for a goal or a deflection off Homer! Fact is Homer and Lids have awesome chemistry and Z and D have awesome chemistry.

Alas thou! we cannot afford to have Z and D on the same line at the current moment. Sorry boys but I don't think Babs will go for this right now. Maybe in the playoffs.

this thread is why i love this community. go wings!

gotta send some love franzias way... dude is putting up a lot of points this year, is 2nd in the league in pp and 1st in game winning goals! as long as his hot streaks r longer than his cold ones the mule will have his best season ever

Don't be such a princess about it.  The point of the original post was not to say Datsyuk was bad, or even to ***** about his production.  I was wondering if he were still recovering from injury or something because the moves he was making and the speed with which he were making them didn't seem very "Datsyukian".  I think that was pretty straight forward from the start.  

With the exception of a handful of people on this site, every single post on every single thread just devolves to people bitching about whoever isn't playing up to their expectations, or else someone (like the guy I'm responding to here) being overly reactionary and acting as if I'd just **** slapped Datsyuk in the face.  

The question was simple, stick to the topics, start a new post, and get over yourselves.

You nailed it on the head for me, my prince in shining armor.

There is nothing wrong with Datsyuk. I've seen plenty of fantastic dekes out of him this season. He's a 33 year old hockey player and he's HUMAN.... So stop **** slapping his face lol

Edit: don't take things so personally dude. The point of my original post was that there is a "whats up with zetterberg?" and a "whats up with datsyuk?" thread going on right now, which is just typical LGW ridiculousness (bring on the negs baby!). So chill bro

All Lucic's fault.

I'm sure he didn't mean to push the puck that far ahead, but by doing so he gave Miller the chance to get to it first, which he did. That's smart/aggressive goal-tending and I love it. Lucic did not have to hit Miller. It was not a "no other option" situation. That was just dumb on his part. I agree goalies get too much protection a lot of the time, but in this situation it's foolish to say Miller should have expected to be hit.

whats up with zetterberg? whats up with datsyuk? whats up with these threads? I'm eagerly awaiting the whats up with Lidstrom thread.........why isnt he skating 100mph? why doesnt he have 70 pts yet?

Keith was the second best defenseman in the league the year before he won the Norris. Last year was the fluke year.

I honestly don't know if your serious

He was not a Norris finalist that year. He finished 20th in scoring for d-men. He wasn't even ranked by fantasy in top 15 lists for d-men that year. ect.

you get a cookie for the joke though

MLive: 'Humbled' Red Wings expect to be desperate against winless Blue Jackets

can somebody explain why franzen has been playing center? is it because hes bigger/rougher? sounder defensively (i personally think flips is better on defense)?


This game will be interesting with wisniewski coming back. He loves to be the #1 D-man and plays best when hes the #1 D-man. Now that hes back in the lineup at the #1 D spot and in his first regular season game with CBJ, he'll be showing what hes made of, especially against us... for a number of reasons.

I love wizzz and ive wanted him to be a wing since 02, but i think hes in for a rude awakening with CBJ. Hopefully 5 yrs of losing with Columbus will fill his pockets and humble him. Then he can take a REAL contract with a REAL team and win a cup. Sadly, I dont think he'll ever be a wing at this point

Here's to big E destroying him in a fight tonight