Our defense has been bad. The first half of the season wasn't great, but Quincey was statistically on the ice for a ridiculous amount of turnover leading directly to goals. I forget the number but we'd be near the top of the conference with anyone better than him.
And of course, we know Smith and Kindl have struggled.
The defense is only 6 guys so two or three struggling, when your team philosophy is "defense by committee", hurts.
Even with our scoring woes, and Howard struggling, the main issue is defense.
To be Cup contenders we need a top 4 defenseman (preferably top 2) who can score, and a bottom pairing defenseman who is a veteran, solid defense-first guy.
Now, more scoring never hurts, but even if you add a score the team will be giving up too many goals. Whereas if you fix the defense, you free up the offense to focus on what they do best.
Quincey is actually only 3rd on the teams D in giveaways (Smith 39, Kronwall 33, Quincey 32, Kindl 31, Ericsson 30). He's also played more games than any other D-man on our team... suggesting that his giveaway's per-game is lower than most of our other D (I don't wanna compute the numbers, but I believe that math makes sense). More, Quincey is also leading our D in take-aways (Quincey 27, Kronwall 20, Smith 14, Lashoff 13, Ericsson 12, Kindl 12). More, Quincey is also 1st among our D in even strength ice time, 2nd among our D in shorthanded ice time, and only has 23 minutes on the PP... suggesting that his giveaways and takeaway numbers are better per minute than our other d-men.
Is Quincey good? No. But he's not a horrible ball and chain like everyone suggests. We brought him in for a first at the deadline and he wasn't the savior everyone hoped for, and he gets crucified for it. He's just another Eaves. Good? No. Bad? No. Just blahhhhhhhhh
Why NOT, Ehrhoff is on a GREAT contract.
When HEALTHY, Helm is one of the best if not the BEST 3rd line center in NHL.
Datsyuk is arguably the best 1st line center when HEALTHY. Trade him too?
Helm is arguably the best 3rd line center in the league. He does that job better than anyone. I don't see the point in moving the best 3rd line center in a package deal to get an "ok" top sixer. I understand it's an upgrade to have another top sixer, I'd just rather see the best pieces in the right places. This is never going to be a 2003 team where everyones a top guy. Know what I mean? Idk... screw you guys, helm is the man
This isn't random third line center were talking about. It's Darren Helm. One of the fastest and most defensively responsible centers in the game. Liked and respected by teammates. Liked and respected by management and the coaches. Loved by fan base. He IS our bottom 6. He won't be traded just like Draper was never traded. Expendable? IMO he's one of our bright spots...
Btw nyquist was regarded as top prospect not jarnkrok I thought? And for me little tuzzi isn't an nhler because of the fact he was projected as the like 200th prospect it'll take a lot for me to consider him a prospect. People don't really consider almquist a big name prospect he will be a third pairing nhler if lucky. Same with tuzzi 4th line nhler at best. That's not a prospect I'll ever look forward to seeing.
Now guys like jarnkrok oullete sproul mraz Paterson mantha Sheahan etc etc I'm excited about. Not all will be stars but some will be I'm sure.
I'm also looking forward to going to jarnkrok play. I saw him last year and yes was unimpressive. But it does take time to adjust. The part is if I remember right jarnkrok is a righty something we need. I also would down the road if they all pan out love a line of mantha jarnkrok nyquist. And before mantha is up maybe Tatar.
It's not like the Wings drafted Bertuzzi thinking he was gonna be a top liner one day. They expect him to play third/fourth line. I don't really care what he was ranked by CSS either. The Wings have their own ranking based on a better scouting staff. You look at guys like Tuzzi, Mantha, Athanasiou, Nastasiuk, and they aren't ranked that high in their respective rounds, then they get drafted by the wings and they explode. They see things in certain players that other teams don't. I'm guessing they projected Bertuzzi to be an exceptional gritty bottom 6 player.
It's one thing if you're in tip top shape, but to be injured and on top of that still on the honeymoon of his massive contract extension to go play in the olympics just to come back and say "Yeah, I can't play" should not be kosher in anybody's books. At some point you gotta draw the line.
If you're too sick to play for your NHL team, you're too sick to play for any team. Should be simple as that.
Again, he was the C for his team in his home country. I think that's a pleasantry we can afford him. If it was in Korea and/or Ovi was wearing the C I'd feel a little differently. We have a good rep with players bc of actions like this.