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Omg! an eye patch will be perfect for Pronger's evilness

But seriously, I hope this isn't serious. As much as I think he should be in jail (he would probably thrive their and love it anyway), he is a fantastic hockey player and I hope he gets to play for many many more years. The guy is just one heck of a complete defense-man, a respected adversary and rival, and a helluva leader with such a huge personality that I love to see in hockey. Get well soon chrissy poo!!!

I'll take White any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Then you incorporate their pay, White wins by a landslide, but I know what you mean when you posted this. Some players care about money while other care about tradition and team atmosphere.

pshhhhhhhhhh no way. i love white, hes been so good, but wiz is better. its purely the pay check why i wouldnt want him. sooooooooo overpaid.

97 - OMG! after 40 years we finally did it! (people acknowledge the wings as a championship team/franchise)

98 - HO** SH** we did it again! back to back! were unstoppable! (confirms to the world that Detroit really is hockey-town. experts wonder if this could be the beginnings of the next dynasty)

02 - Superstar studded roster baby! were the yankees of hockey b*****s! (people acknowledge our superstar greatness, but say that we just buy our championships now)

08 - Damnnnn! we are the greatest hockey team of the last 10 years! (at last proves to the world that we dont buy championships and that we dont need to rebuild, were just that good)

each year was fantastic in different ways, and each year contributed uniquely, yet perfectly, to the growth of this team into the prestigious franchise it is today.

but really there's nothing like 97....its like heroin....winning is always good, but it's never as good as it was the very first time

     I believe he started this by saying he is only creating this one thread this year and adding to it as the year goes on...

                                       ....As far as lines go we may have to get real use to seeing almost a different team every night, babs never waits long before changing something up.  The easiest way to change up during a game is playing with lines, its tough for the coach on the opposing team as well.  What worries me (I just feel he pulls the trigger to soon some times) is the number of combos he can do with there scoring depth this year.  Last year we had grinding depth, this year seems special and I look forward to it.  Also by the looks of young guys in GR we are in good shape for a few years.

Babs will change a lot this year, that is fersure. But, I feel like there is some sense of default lines. clutch lines that we often revert back to. I'm thinking those default lines will be the ones we saw in the first 2 games. They make a lot of sense, but im all for a change up soon. keeps things interesting and exposes new chemistry and ideas.

If anyone watched the long pre-game show before the Avs game, babs said he asked the new asst coach from western to come in everyday with a new idea. im sure a lot of these ideas will be about lines. babs is a genius, despite how simple this task for his assistants is.

I honestly like what the wings have right now... I'm one of the rare hudler believers on this thread and I think he will be good with datsyuk. I think emmerton should stay and mursak should take millers spot when he returns

Also I think emmerton miller and brunnstrom should all rotate in and out of the roster throughout the year

THIS. the hudler-dats-cleary line is great. hudler and cleary both feed off great players and really step up their play with dats. the franzen-zetts-flips is sweet too. franzen and flips have always had fantastic chemistry. also, after these last 2 games im really liking the abby-helm-tuzzi line. grit makes me happy

the only changes i might make is a return of the franzen-flips-tuzzi line, and move zetts onto datsyuks line with cleary. then move hudler to the fourth line (where he belongs when not with zetts or dats) and move homer up to the 3rd to play with abby and helm. or maybe even brunnstrom instead of homer if he does well.

fights after clean hits are dumb. fighting is less functional now, but still functional. if it wasnt fucntional at all ppl wouldnt do it. if we returned to pre-lockout attiudes it would be much more functional. i dont like where hockey is heading. less fighting and more diving.

For a guy who didn't grow up in North America, would someone please explain a few things about hockey fighting to me?
I don't have any objection against fighting in hockey, but except for being entertaining and traditional, I don't see any useful function for it.
The way I see it, a cheap shot artist (like Cooke, Casparaitis) can always avoid being beat up by turtling (and does if the odds are unfavorable). So as a deterrent, I don't see fighting working.
Or if an agitator A(very) does something bad, and as a result heavyweight from the other team challenges an enforcer from A(very)'s team, then how is A(very) punished? He is not the one with the black eye.
Or if the two heavyweights line up for a faceoff and drop'em right away, what's that but a sideshow?
I understand when a spontaneous fight, especially by a scorer/team leader who doesn't normally fight, can change the momentum of the game, but that situation does not arise often, and the existing rules can deal with such adequately.

So my question is, what do we want fighting in hockey for, and why would heavy suspensions for fighting be bad?

Entertainment: fans want to see fights. it's one of the things that hockey has that no other sport has (besides boxing/UFC). it makes hockey unique and it often intensifies rivalries and puts fans in seats.
Traditional: getting rid of fighting in hockey is like making american football 2 hand touch
Protection: turtling rarely happens, and when it does it's seen as quite shameful. at least in pre-lockout hockey you usually had to answer for dirty plays one way or another. heavyweight bouts are more of a sideshow, but do bring in fans and thus money. a win in a fight often boosts the energy and attitude of a team as well, occasionally changing the course of a game.

heavy suspensions for fighting is bad because it would change many dynamics of the game. i believe refs should return to their pre-lockout attitude of allowing enforcers to make dirty players "pay" thus curtailing many dirty plays.

now the nhl is suspending players instead of letting enforcers do their jobs. as a result the number of dives r increasing because players kno they can get others suspended for long periods of time. if enforcers were allowed to perform their jobs, the only thing a dive would accomplish is maybe a pp, and the one not diving getting his butt kicked. personally i think they should allow enforcers to beat on divers.

fighting is very much a sideshow but also very functional

WRONG AGAIN AGAIN.  English is our national language.  It's not our "official" language, but it IS our national language.  

http://en.wikipedia....i/United_States

To try and argue otherwise is just a waste of time.  We speak English here in America.  There are other languages, but the dominant language is English.

There's no reason to make things more difficult then they have to be.  I would bet that the large majority of these young foreign players want to assimilate into our culture, and would goff at someone stressing about whether their name was being pronounced right or not by Darren Pang.  Give me a break.

Nyquist.  You're Nyquist.  Not Nyee-ka-vist or Nee-ka-wist or anything else.  You're Nyquist.  Period.

And by the way, why is he not going to make the team?  He's a snipe.

i almost forgot how much of a jerk scott stevens was...

http://wickerpedia.org/

this is the detroit red wings, not the panthers. realistically nyquist probably has at least 2 seasons in the AHL ahead of him.

edit: /NCAA

2 points...

1. The NHL should be more relaxed about fighting. Theyre giving out all these crazy suspensions to try and curb dirty hits, when the way to curb dirty hits is with fear. Not fear of missing a few games, but fear that your going to have your face pounded in if u make that dirty play. Reality is hockey is a fast high impact sport. Players are going to leave their feet, use their size (especially if they dont have the skill), and lose their cool.

2. If shanny has anything to do with fighting leaving the game gordie will kill him. plain and simple. i kno shanny is a tough guy but he should legitimately fear for his life if gordie comes looking for him. so its in his best interest not to get rid of fighting.

It's not relevant, you reply was still off-base... if you think he was out of line, more power to you to voice it, but that in no way, shape or form makes him a "troll"... a little jab is a lot different than an attack - "boo hoo" is hardly saying "you're a waste of flesh and an invaluable member of society"...

Once again, I'm neither defending, nor supporting either side of their exchange, but let them piss it out amongst themselves... attacking mmamolo in retaliation, hardly squelches the issue...

I'm sure hes a great guy and knos alot about hockey, but in this instance hes trolling. boo-hoo contributes nothing to the topic and the poster hes quoting only feels attacked... its asking for a fight. it's annoying to click on a topic to read what ppl have to say about it, but instead you find a **** measuring contest bc somebody just hadddddd to make some small inflammatory remark. if you ask me that's a lot more annoying than the "whining"... which i dont believe wings was doing anyway. i calls it likes i sees it.

I harmlessly teased him at first, then gave input, to which he teased me back (then edited his response). I thought he was whining so I teased him.  If you want to call it attacking so be it.  I think there's way too much whining on this forum so I was grinding his gears a bit.

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three such players if you include Conner in the equation...

I think you should definately add conner to the equation, but take emmerton out of the equation and replace him with jan.

http://www.addicting...ksters-game.jsp

I know where I'll be spending all my free internet time from now on

i dont think id want weber for 7.5 mil, thou itd be nice to have him play with lids. this deal kinda makes me think that kronners and stewies asking prices are gonna go wayyyyyyy up next summer *gulp*

And once again my point goes over your head. There is a difference between commenting on a thread and complaining about the people  that are commenting on the thread. I never complained I was just stating the simple fact that if you are tired of the same threads just don't comment. He wanted to sound superior and put down the people that were commenting.

ur original comment was...wait for it... a complaint! lol. u complain, i complain, we all complain. dont paint urself as not guilty of it.