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#2560303 Pens aquire David Perron from Oilers

Posted by number9 on 03 January 2015 - 01:32 PM


He's a right-shot winger in the prime of his career who scored 30 goals for the Oilers. (He got lucky. He'll never score 30 again. But still.) He plays with an edge, likes to agitate, goes to the dirty areas, is a pain in the ass to play against - but he's also skilled enough to be considered a goal-scorer. I'd like him as a gritty complementary winger with good scoring upside. His cap hit's good, he's only signed for one more year past this year, so it wouldn't be a major investment. It'd be a late first-rounder for a guy who could add a dimension to our forward corps that we're somewhat lacking. At the very least, he'd give us some more scoring depth. Basically, I'd take Perron over a kid who's seven years away from playing big, meaningful minutes for the Wings (i.e. the kid we would, and will, take with our first-round pick).


I know - "We should use that first-round pick on a defenseman, not David frickin' Perron." I just have zero faith that that's going to happen. We're not getting Myers, we're not getting Yandle, and we won't move a first for a rental (Green). We're going to sit on the pick, because "there's no hockey store." That makes me a sad panda.


The one thing I "like" about not getting Perron is his hips are a major issue. He might be one big hit away from being borderline useless.


...But we all know he's going to be huge for the Pens, because of course he will.


I've seen you mention this before. Personally I've never seen that side of David Perron. Sure he's not your typical soft finesse player, he's a good two-way winger who finishes his checks, but plays with an edge? agitates? dirty areas? pain in the ass? I wouldn't use any of those phrases to describe him. I think you have David Perron mistaken for David Backes.


Acquiring Perron doesn't address a need for us. It would be a move for the sake of making a move. And that's why it'd be dumb.

#2560185 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 02 January 2015 - 09:33 AM

Yes, Boston is a clear contender, while the wings are not.

#2560180 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by number9 on 02 January 2015 - 12:21 AM

"Helms only good cause of his speed"

"Datsyuks only good cause of his hands"

"Hollands only good cause of his scouts"

"Booze is only good bc it makes me feel good"

Slippery slope

#2560175 WJC 2015 Starting today

Posted by number9 on 01 January 2015 - 09:34 PM

Geeze people need to lighten up.


No. How dare young boys celebrate huge accomplishments at a very young age.

#2560131 12/31 GDT : Devils 1 at Red Wings 3

Posted by number9 on 01 January 2015 - 12:59 PM

Helm is love. Helm is life.

#2558699 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by number9 on 23 December 2014 - 03:15 PM

I wonder what the policy of lower body strength training is over there.


Nothing but groin workouts

#2558693 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by number9 on 23 December 2014 - 02:54 PM

I don't get why people are saying that Backman doesn't want to put in the work. From everything I've heard and read, he has been putting in the work on and off the ice, he just isn't putting up the points he was expected to. He was one of the best defenseman on the entire Griffins team, in last years playoffs. Coming in to training camp everyone, including Babcock had high hopes for him. He didn't exceed expectations in camp but I don't think he was really a disappointment either. He had a slow start with the Griffins this year, but not one of the games I've watched, did he look out of place, certainly not to warrant a scratch over Brennan Evans. 


Can you really blame the guy for getting frustrated? He was one of the top defenders in a much better league for the past year or two, now all of a sudden he is being scratched for guys that are completely inferior in skill set, who also have no future in the NHL. There is no question that the SHL is a better league than the AHL, and maybe he has every intention to go there where he will get the big minutes, and then come back in a year or two to earn a spot on the Red Wings roster or another NHL team.


Like I've said before, I do feel that Backman has the potential to be an NHL defenseman, but none of us know exactly what really happened there. However, I do wish he were still down in GR over Evans. But then, I also wish Ouellet were up with Detroit over Kindl too... Oh well, we'll have to wait and see how this one pans out...


Well we still own him, so I doubt he's going elsewhere unless we trade him. Problem with playing in the SHL is he's not getting accustomed to NA ice and the NA game, which he already admitted was a bit of an adjustment for him. Going to the SHL essentially is a huge setback for his possible NHL career. Even with the better minutes. 

#2558641 Where were team-mates on the Smith headshot

Posted by number9 on 23 December 2014 - 04:44 AM

You?  ...or GMR and F. Michael?


Look. Don't get me wrong. I like to play both sides of the fence when it comes to the fisticuffs. Love 'em and Hate 'em.


The whole Franzen quote above just spells out exactly what goes on with our team and it's attitude towards fighting.  Sure, if Ericsson is on the ice things are a little different. If Smith is on the ice... a little different.  ...but there's not enough difference on the roster to change the overall "fighting attitude" on the team.

Holland has tried in the past to rectify this situation: Downey, Tootoo. McCarty. et al. 

It's just not a team philosophy/priority or a philospohy/priority as dictated by the head coach and the roster he puts on the ice.




Boston creme and I'm in no matter the state it's in. #doughnuttruth


Something we can all get on board with. Truly you are a man of the people.

#2558609 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 08:00 PM

If you willing leave the Wings - the freaking Detroit Red Wings - for Europe, good riddance. We can argue all day about what time he should have got and what management should have done, but at the end of the day there are two types of players. Guys who will jump ship when things get bad for them, and guys who will grit their teeth and work that much harder to get to the top. Unfortunately, deserved or not, Backman was the former. I'd rather have the Tatars and Nyquists, who put their noses to the grind stone and fought for their spots than the Backmans of the world. Goodluck to him in Sweden.

#2558597 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 06:17 PM

Jeez, Yandles been on the block since 2011. But I'm sure this is the year we land him. Definitely.

#2558554 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 03:16 PM

I'd be ok for trading Smith for an upgrade.

Yeah I'd trade Smith

if I was a doof...

#2558551 12/21 GDT : Avalanche 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 03:02 PM

Could you imagine if McGrattan and Babcock BOTH were on the bench mean mugging the shooter? They'd pull a Patrick Eaves and tumble to the ice in fear before getting a shot off.

What if Babcock and Mcgrattan stared at each other? There'd be a dimensional paradox. Time would stop as the world rips itself apart at an atomic level eventually imploding in on itself forming a super dense mega black hole.

And that's why Mcgrattan can never play for us.

#2558550 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 02:56 PM

I think it has more to do with not having an enforcer. Maybe Backman would have been more comfortable on NA ice if a guy like Punchy McLaren or Punchy Orr was on our AHL team.

#2558548 12/21 GDT : Avalanche 2 at Red Wings 1 (SO)

Posted by number9 on 22 December 2014 - 02:52 PM

Anybody think our lack of right handed shooters are CONTRIBUTING to our losses in shootoutsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think it has more to do with not having an enforcer. Opposing teams might think twice about dangling on Howard if Punchy McGrattan was staring them down.

#2558093 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by number9 on 20 December 2014 - 02:44 PM

@number9: Do you have Franzen's cell phone number and play poker with the guy when he is not on the ice? I feel like you're his PR on this forum. The guy is having an awful year. I mean I have his jersey too and I loved him but can't you admit that his 6 goals in 2 games and 0 in the next 20 every year can get a bit tiresome and that he floats a lot? We are all huge fans here but you simply can't tell me he isn't a problem and that other fans aren't allowed to point this out if they want to on a Red Wings' fan forum right?

Don't you have a anti-Franzen thread you can bring this up in for the 1000th time? Last nights lost had as much to do with Tatar and almost every wing without a Z in his name than it did with Franzen. So yeah I'm gonna be his PR guy if you're gonna single him out over the loss.

We have an open spot at the poker table Thursday nights btw.