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#2621739 Line combos for 97, 98 Cups?

Posted by number9 on 28 July 2015 - 10:12 PM

Yup, went to grind line and they ended up putting Yzerman and Fedorov together for a good while. Stevie was aging pretty bad by then. 

Plus we signed guys like Hull and Robataille, no reason McCarty should have stayed on top lines. 

Same, but they did wreck for a good few games. 

McCarty was your typical grade A fighter, grinder without being all that big. His upper body strength was just ridiculous..... Plus it always helped having a right handed shooter.. something we haven't seen much of in a while unfortunately. 


97, 98 and even 2002 lines had a good balance of right and left shooters, wish we could get s'more. 


True. Half the reason McCarty performed less point wise in the 2000's is because we basically had an all-star team at that point. I still believe the salary cap exists almost solely because of us.

#2621691 Line combos for 97, 98 Cups?

Posted by number9 on 28 July 2015 - 10:01 AM

It'd be interesting to see how many minutes McCarty logged on average during those two playoffs.  I doubt it was typical of a first liner.  I'm guessing Bowman moved Yzerman around and also guessing many of Yzerman's points came on the powerplay.  
Abby is a more capable offensive player than McCarty.  Not top line material, but still more capable.  

Not even close.

McCarty was 3rd in TOI among forwards in the 98 playoffs. Only Yzerman and Fedorov had more ice time as forwards.

For a man who loves tough guys, you drastically underrate McCarty's ability as an actual hockey player.

His downfall was his lifestyle catching up with him in his later years.

#2621669 Line combos for 97, 98 Cups?

Posted by number9 on 27 July 2015 - 11:08 PM

The top 3 lines were very interchangable from what i remember. Meaning they could all have been considered the "top line".

Yzerman was signicially slower in the late 90s. But the game itself wasnt that fast to begin with so he thrived. From what i remember atleast
Aye, Z and Pav would get chewed up if they didnt have a net front presence or some grit on their line.

I just dont remember what McCarty brought to yzermans line. The obvious answer is grit but i feel like there was more to it


97 finals game 4 break away goal. Nuff said.

#2621664 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by number9 on 27 July 2015 - 10:25 PM

WiFi radios now grandpa


Only girls use wifi... back when hockey didn't suck we used hi-fi

#2621614 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by number9 on 26 July 2015 - 04:28 PM

Statistical analysts are hired to do this work. It's not like the coach is expected to be the one that does the math lol. This has no effect on on-ice training like you say. All it does is give them information on how to better utilize their players in specific situations. 

Math freaks ruined hockey

#2621510 Free agents this off season

Posted by number9 on 24 July 2015 - 02:00 PM

Wasn't he awful before he got his contract with Carolina? Is semin lazy? Yes but he has the talent and scoring ability , that doesn't go away

No doubt in my mind playing on a cheap one year deal it'll motivate him to score to get big money on his next contract ... Would i sign him to 3-5 yrs at 6-7 per if he gets 35 goals this year? Hell no

On a one year deal at 1 mill it's a good chance by the habs

Over here in montreal you can bet on prop bets and they already added semin at over or under 14.5 goals lol ... Went and do some tickets mixed with nfl player bets as well as eichel +56 pts

I think he gets 25-35 ... We'll see what happens

"Yes but he has the talent and scoring ability, that doesn't go away"

Yes it does. It goes away the second he gets his pay day after his 1 year deal lol.

#2621487 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by number9 on 24 July 2015 - 11:53 AM

I don't disagree with your assessment at all. I agree 100% that he even looked disinterested at times, not engaged in the play. However, is it even a remote possibility that it could have been even a tiny bit to do with his injury? Is it possible that he could have had some discomfort in his right leg throughout the season? Not saying he did, but it is certainly a possibility, is it not?


That was definitely a huge knock on him in his draft year, but I watched a ton of him in the 2013-14 season in Val d'Or, and pace wasn't an issue with him that year at all in my opinion. I get that he was "a man amongst boys" down there, but he still skated circles around them offensively and got back defensively as well. I still believe with a full training camp, he will be a totally different player this coming season...


Like I said before though, I don't think anyone really disagrees that his season was a little disappointing, I just don't think it was as terrible as some people, including Devellano, make it seem...


Yeah, I'm not ruling it out. I'm  just saying if I knew nothing about Franzen prior to this season you'd probably describe him to me as a good goal scoring power-forward that doesn't play all that physical. Fair? Now if Franzen got injured right away in October, and then came back and didn't play physical... I wouldn't blame it on the injury, I'd go back to what you told me about him and say, he's never played physical, that's just how he his.


Same with Mantha. By all accounts this is his game and how he plays it. It was exactly what was described to me and exactly what I saw. So I'm not going to blame too much here on the injury. I don't think just staying healthy here is his issue, as Blashill described, he still has a lot to work on in his game, including work ethic and keeping his skates moving.

#2621482 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by number9 on 24 July 2015 - 11:33 AM

Pulkkinen sucks... there I said it.

#2621417 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by number9 on 24 July 2015 - 09:06 AM

A Larkin like transition? Give me a break. Larkin played a grand total of 6 games in Grand Rapids. Sure, he looked great, but anyone can pull that off in such a small sample size, especially coming off an unbelievable college season, World Juniors, and World Championships. I'm willing to bet that Mantha could have pulled off similar numbers in the 2014 playoffs with the Griffins, if Val d'Or didn't go on such a deep run, winning the President's Cup and going on to play for the Memorial Cup. Confidence is huge in any professional sport, and hockey is no different. Larkin was coming into the Calder Cup playoffs oozing confidence, just as Mantha would have a year prior. Instead, Mantha came into training camp last offseason oozing confidence and looking great, and then fractured his right tibia, and as a result was out for 2 months, missing the Red Wings training camp and the Griffins training camp, and just never got his game on track after that. Some act as such a serious leg injury is no big deal, and he should have immediately regained form. I do think he had a rough season, and he probably should have ended the regular season on a more positive note, or at the very least should have been more of an impact by playoffs. However, I do believe that we will see a completely different player in Grand Rapids this season. I expect he will hover at or around a point per game pace the entire season. Here's to hoping... 


Bottom line is he had a disappointing first AHL season no matter how you want to paint it. Devellano isn't wrong, he's just dumb for saying it to the media. Clearly the organization had higher hopes for his first season.

So... based on your expectations you are disappoint, but you're not ready to throw in the towel on the kid.
So, would you trade him for the right player?  (whether it be a one for one or package deal) ...or is he "untouchable." (in your eyes)

No I think he's still untouchable. He's just trending downward. However, If plays the same way again this coming season I think he's gonna start becoming touchable real quickly.

#2621212 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by number9 on 22 July 2015 - 12:18 PM

Friends and inside sources are completely different.  I said from day one, and it has never changed, my buddy Jeff was dating Danny's sister and he told me that Danny decided he was going to pick the Red Wings, even before his last day at Western...assuming his sister told Jeff that her brother made his mind up sooner than the public knew who he would choose...

Danny's sister sounds like an inside source to me.

Wow though, who could've possibly known/guessed he was going to choose us. Wow. You called it bud! Thanks for sharing.

#2621205 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by number9 on 22 July 2015 - 11:53 AM

Well there is ZERO chance, even healthy enough to play, that he plays 82 games. I never said he was be in the press box for 82 games either. Instead of just looking at the lines and commenting on Franzen being listed as the 13th guy, read the post that goes with it. He will spend time in the press box in order to stay off IR and avoid being bashed around night in and night out. It's the safest thing for him. Like I said, to him, right now, a successful season will be staying off the IR for the entire campaign. If he plays 50 games, that will be a successful healthy season in regards to his steps towards becoming a full time player again.


FINALLY, some inside knowledge from your sources. Are they going to space out the games or let him get a big rest before the playoffs???

#2621163 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by number9 on 22 July 2015 - 08:12 AM

Yeah, it wasn't like going into his draft year Pulks wasn't rated a top 10 skater until an injury. And it's not like most trades that Holland nixed in the last year involved pulkks.

Link? Going into his draft I remember his issue was work ethic and foot speed.

I also remember Mantha being the one teams asked for. But we'll never know for certain will we?

#2621116 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by number9 on 21 July 2015 - 05:11 PM

you sure are cool! We all wanna be like you when you grow up.




no, it wasn't, but during all the rumors I simply said what I said about the trainers comments. Adding some level of why they may the ones talked about being traded. Of course, they mocked back then and they still mock now. But that's ok, I happen to enjoy hearing things from people with info that hasn't made the news yet. I will take the mocking because when I say something and it happens, then I love when they try to say I didn't say it. Like over two years ago when I said within 2-3 seasons Howard will lose his starting job to Petr. Should see the comments I got from that. I don't know crap about hockey, jimmy is the one to take them all the way, go root for the Flyers...blah, blah, yadda. I revel in watching them all slowly change their tune to support what I have said for years. Hudler, Franzen, Howard...they all loved them, berated me for disliking them, but then slowly they all turn and start supporting the opposite...its funny! Just remember though, I don't know s***.


You know what you should do? Dig up allllll those genius things you said over the years and share them with us! A little more gloating can't hurt ya at this point anyway.

#2621059 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by number9 on 21 July 2015 - 11:25 AM

Wait so you actually think people are jealous that you know somebody who's associated with someone who happens to know someone else? lol

People are mocking you because no one cares but you lol



#2621053 Holtby Asking for $8M

Posted by number9 on 21 July 2015 - 10:39 AM

He's had exactly one good season w. good playoff run. 5 to 6 million sounds about right.