I hate how every time Howie has a bad game or loses to a bad team it's not his fault, it is, your starting goalie making elite money needs to be above .500 the wings aren't that bad, Miller was good with Buffalo
No he wasn't. He was never the same after his beast olympics.
You're obscuring the point though. I was simply stating that those were great teams, and if he were so heads and tails better than every other coach then he probably should have won with them. And if he didn't win with those great teams, then clearly he's not so excellent that talk of replacing him is as absurd as it is often made out to be.
I think your overstating how great we think babs is
Because I don't believe he is great. I think he's good. And I think he'd be great in an organization that shared his philosophy. But in this one he's a square peg in a round hole. As his use of legwand, Weiss, glendening, and Anderson attest. Get a coach who knows how to utilize the types of talent our organization supplies. That's easier than finding a new gm, scouts, etc. And why would you want to anyway? They're more accomplished than he is...by a lot.
You really want to gauge his coaching on Legwand, Weiss, Glendening, and Andersson? I'm prepared to defend his decisions on all those players.
Yes. Every great coach was a rookie once. I don't see how that precludes someone from being in the discussion. Further I don't think this team is right on the cusp of greatness. It'll be a year or two before we are an elite team again. When our young guys enter their primes. At which point blashill wouldn't be a rookie anymore. He would, however, still be the coach who has won with these guys, developed these guys, built report with these guys, and (hopefully) brought a fresh perspective to their abilities, and dynamic.
I agree with you on all those points. But I'm willing to send Blashill out just like we sent Yzerman, Nill, and a multitude of other coaches out. Why take on something unproven when you already have something great? I'm not gonna throw away a top 5 coach to gamble on a guy just cause he was successful in a lesser league. If Dave Lewis was our coach I'd partial, but he's not.
Jeez number9 your like the wise grandpa of the forums who also happens to be a d*ck lol I like you tho!
Appreciate the brown nosing, but I don't know or like you back dude sorry.
Because we are a team full of guys who, because of our late round picks, were selected for their hockey smarts and skill level. And not because of their physically dominant traits. And because he's a coach who consistent wants to subordinate offense for "heaviness", and shot suppression. He'd be a great coach for teams like Columbus, LA, or Anaheim. But not for a team full of guys who learned how to play the game in a European, puck possession, type system.
Where as I'd say he brings the perfect coaching balance to a team full of euros
Source? Lol haven't you been reading these articles about the possibility of him leaving or resigning every other one they are always suggesting that
So you don't have a source where he says he wants to be in a system where he has more power I take it?
I wouldn't believe everything you read on the internet friend. Especially if the person it's about never actually said it.
I don't expect him to win ever single year, but you guys are downplaying some of the really great teams he had and lost with. His teams were not mediocre in 2005 or 2009. I get irritated when people act like he's had nothing to work with. He's had good, to great teams since joining the wings. He's got one cup. He's not such a super duper coach that its anathema to even consider life after Babcock.
So then you want Blashill? a rookie with no cups? Just cause he might be able to do what Babs didn't?
Yzerman was a player now he's a GM what's your point?
...Yzerman was trained as a GM under Holland. He was never a coach. Is that an easy enough point for you to grasp?
Mike Babcock was a rookie once too. I'd take Blashill, or any number of other coaches provided they fit the team. I'm not saying let babs walk for no reason. But I don't think that its unrealistic to think another coach could get more out of this team. Quenneville and Sutter were cast offs from other teams too. Something tells me their organizations aren't regretting the fact that they took a flier on a fired coach.
Babs is easily one of the top 5 coaches in the league. You don't just walk away from a guy like that if you can keep him. Qvill and Sutter have done great under elite teams sure, but Babs got this team into the playoffs these least few years when we were pretty much counted out.
He said he wants more power which to me, suggests that him getting a job in the front office isn't total madness
Don't people call him a hockey genius lol
Andersson gets a bad rap because he's the worst forward on the team (not counting cleary). That doesn't mean he's a bad player. He's got solid defensive smarts despite being ineffective offensively and physically. He'd be semi-decent on a lesser team
Yes, he's expendable, like Lashoff, Huskins, Gustavsson, etc. But that doesn't mean he isn't useful.