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#2537213 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by number9 on 24 September 2014 - 05:52 PM


Fully agreed with almost everything. Like I said players don't need to fight Scuderi just have someone who will and can hit him - or Crosby, Malkin - equally as hard (but clean) should there be a fight after that ? No, absolutely not if it was a clean hit but keep in mind there is also a fine line.


I fully agree with your statement about someone getting Cowened he should have gotten absolutely smoked or challenged to fight after that and that's exactly my point the Wings need to be a tougher team to play against. One where others know what goes around comes around.


So you've gone from we need someone to stand up for our stars, to we need someone who can hit?


We out hit Chicago and Minnesota, two very good teams, just last season.


When it comes to "hitting-hard" I don't know how you draw the line. But Scuderi's hit wasn't really that huge, he more or less caught Datsyuk in a weird place in a weird position.

#2537060 9/23 Exhibition GDT : Red Wings 1 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by number9 on 23 September 2014 - 08:12 PM

Doin pretty good so far against a stacked Hawks roster and a lot of CHI PP opportunities

#2536914 Barry Trotz Wants Ovechkin to be more like Yzerman

Posted by number9 on 22 September 2014 - 09:34 PM

I think it is a little too simplistic to look at Bowman getting Yzerman to focus on defense and that resulting in a drop in Yzerman's offensive production.  My honest opinion is that I don't think his production was impacted too significantly from his attention to the defensive end.  A lot of people might say that if you play great defense, it will give you more time with the puck to play offense.


I think Yzerman played in a unique era within the history of the game.  A good part of his prime was during the highest scoring era in league history and his increased age came during the lowest scoring era in league history....which made his drop in production look more significant.




Yzerman's "suddenly found defensive game" happened to exactly coincide with the end of the late 80's/early90's scoring frenzy. Be that luck or not, this comparison is bad.

#2536913 2014 Preseason Thread

Posted by number9 on 22 September 2014 - 09:27 PM


Nor do I but it's a good example that these guys do indeed have some skills other than fighting. I mean it's still NHL or almost NHL ready competition.


Orr has 24 pts in 476 NHL games. Is this really the argument you want to make?


He makes Abdelkader look like Probert

#2536895 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by number9 on 22 September 2014 - 08:06 PM

Sproul looks like exactly what this d core needs. Honorable mention to Backman and Ouellet as well.

#2536708 Barry Trotz Wants Ovechkin to be more like Yzerman

Posted by number9 on 21 September 2014 - 09:06 PM

Remember that comparing Ovechkin to Yzerman should be taken 100% literally. Ovi will now be as defensively responsible as a great defensive center is. Screw analogies.

#2536707 Training Camp Thread

Posted by number9 on 21 September 2014 - 09:03 PM

I'm predicting 82 gp, 27-20-47 for Cleary this year. I think that's pretty fair based on his training camp performance thus far.

#2536561 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by number9 on 19 September 2014 - 07:24 AM

Datsyuk already went back to Russia early now Babcock wants out too

#2536481 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by number9 on 18 September 2014 - 07:48 AM

I would prefer being the next Don Cherry

All out truculence

#2536466 A Perfect fit for the Bruins...Ville Leino?

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 09:17 PM

Me thinks they just might have a few guys from Providence (AHL) that they could call up.


Then again - I hope they don't, and Lucic can fend for himself.


Or ya kno... they just don't role a typical enforcer... like 20 other teams

#2536465 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 09:05 PM


DeKeyser is much better defensively and moves the puck well too. Lashoff doesn't have the slightest ounce of offensive ability -- that's just pure hyperbole and doesn't take into account the massive difference in skill between Smith and Lashoff. 


Every time Smith and Quincey have played together, it has failed miserably as a pairing. Smith was the Wings best d-man during the Boston series and has the potential to contribute more offensively if the Wings allow him to do so, which would be wise since they got nothing from that standpoint a season ago. Restricting Smith to Quincey again isn't going to help Smith's development.


If you aren't a fan of DeKeyser with Smith, then put DeKeyser with E instead and let Smith go with Kronwall. 



My point is: Everyone is better with Kronwall, Kronwall is awesome.


People act like Smith could be become awesome, and if he would only play with Kronwall that would happen. But that's the thing, he's only good when he's playing with Kronwall.


Dekeyser is good. But so is Ericsson. You might as well pair Smith with Ericsson. Dekeyser is not a great puck mover by any means, he's decent and he has a good slap shot which is about it, he's a defensively minded player. Just like Ericsson.


Switching out Q and D is not going to suddenly make our D better, in fact it will probably just look the same.


Pushing an offensive minded guy like Smith with another guy with somehwat of an O mind only hurts ur second pairing IMO. Cause then your second pairing is Q-D-E ALL DEFENSIVE GUYS. No balance there.

#2536464 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 08:53 PM

Babcock is smart, not dumb. As a smart man he knows what he's going to get from the Wings/Holland. That's a playoff chance each and every year. Some better than others. He likes his manager and the system that caters to him. By leaving he runs a huge risk. He walks into a system that may be hot now, but might not be hot tmrw or in 3 years. He might have to deal with big headed players he doesn't like. Big headed managers he doesn't like. Other problems unbeknownst to him.


The Wings offer a very stable system, where he knows he's gonna good young talent every year, even if the trade pipelines don't workout.


Doubt he leaves. That's a coaching paradise. Crosby may be good, But he has only one cup bc there has been a disaster of problems around him. If I'm babcock I don't want to handcuff myself to that system. I also want my legacy to be reconized because I was awesome. Not because Crosby and Malkin were, aka GlenSather

#2536461 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 08:35 PM

The Quincey/Smith pairing has never worked and Babs just keeps reverting back to it if that is the case again. Smith needs someone that allows him to jump into plays and be more active offensively. He played his best hockey by far with Kronwall as his partner last season. I don't care so much if the Wings leave Kronwall and E together, but at least play Smith with DeKeyser.


Quincey on the third pairing with whichever other mistake is necessary or ideally Marchenko/Ouellet instead. 


Q and D are both defensive Dmen. I highly doubt D is going to suddenly re-energize Smith's O game because of his slightly better defensive abilities.


Any D-man on this team would excel with Kronwall ad their partner. Smith is not some strange exception. Lashoff would suddenly look lightyears better with Nik.

#2536456 3 Training Camp Squads named

Posted by number9 on 17 September 2014 - 07:54 PM

Are we giving Aaron Rome a tryout?


These rosters say a few things to me.


Kronwall and Ericsson are likely sticking together again. Smith and Quincey as well.


Jurco is separated from the kid line in favor of Nyquist, which may mean he'll be starting in GR.


I see a Helm - Datsyuk - Mantha/Jurco line forming.


Weiss is grouped with a buncha kids and Abdelkader. I don't know if that's good or bad. I'm thinking the idea is give him a big veteran leadership role early on to build confidence.


Idk about forward lines, but I see the defensive pairings shaking out pretty much exactly like last season


Kronwall - Ericsson

Smith - Quincey

Dekeyser - Kindl


#2536381 Nice article on Mantha

Posted by number9 on 16 September 2014 - 08:12 PM

I'm pretty sure we burned a year of Dekeyser's contract in 2012-13 when we kept him up at the end the year even though the "smart" business decision would have been to send him to GR.


Yes, but Dekeyser is an underpaid god amongst men, deserving of 4 million a year, and is a future #1 D unless Holland F's it up someho. Don't you pay attention PVD?